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Dems thrilled as tea party win stuns Delaware GOP

RightinNYC said:
According to Nate Silver, this means that the Reps have a 21% chance of taking the Senate instead of the 26% chance they had yesterday. Not sure what you're basing your argument on, but the numbers disagree.
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True....it was a longshot before...but this just makes it that much more probable that the Democrats will retain the Senate. That's all I'm saying.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
I find it humorous, personally. Of course, I'll be voting for Charlie Crist, Independent, for Senator. I wonder whether he will reaffiliate with the republican party when he gets elected, or if he'll become a democrat.
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Shirley, you can't be serious?
 
Yeah I don't think Democrats are thrilled that a woman who wrote an editorial called "The Case for Chastity" could hold a seat in the senate.

I know the article is saying the the DNC is happy that they don't have to fight the GOP in Delaware, but an extreme social conservative like O'Donnell winning a major election would be terrible for the cause of liberalism.
 
Mustachio said:
Yeah I don't think Democrats are thrilled that a woman who wrote an editorial called "The Case for Chastity" could hold a seat in the senate.

I know the article is saying the the DNC is happy that they don't have to fight the GOP in Delaware, but an extreme social conservative like O'Donnell winning a major election would be terrible for the cause of liberalism.
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What's that got to do with democrats?
 
 
The Prof said:
a few things are clear:

gop turnout in delaware was double what was expected in this closed primary

the more the establishment rips on TEA the better it tastes to american voters

ms odonnell is HOT, she's getting flooded with donations, just since last nite---her website crashed today

this race is gonna be close, if she loses it won't be by much

and that in itself is terrifying to the party in power, that a tea party extremist has a real chance to take joe biden's bench in the blue hens

something is happening in america, something big

we are witnessing the awakening of an exciting NEW gop

it is likely to pilfer pelosi's place, and it's going to come very close upstairs, at the least

worry
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Not sure how O'Donnell will fair.

But the Senate seat of that other executive branch victor (obama) has a better than even chance in Illinois of going to the GOP this November. ;)



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Catz Part Deux said:
Of course, I'll be voting for Charlie Crist, Independent, for Senator. I wonder whether he will reaffiliate with the republican party when he gets elected, or if he'll become a democrat.
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You do realize Crist is 16 points behind Rubio and falling right?
 
remember, while no one is conceding delaware, we can take upstairs without the hens, quite feasibly

indeed, IF wisconsin elects ron johnson over russ feingold, who's running as an underdog, outsider, stressing his independence on health care (it didn't have a public option), the stimulus (it wasn't big enough), all the bailouts he voted for...

IF wisconsin sends mr johnson, the perfect picture of normal family man, refreshingly normal on tv, who ran one of the cutest ads i've seen...

big self funder, johnson, outspending russ 3 to 1 (4 to 1 counting outside sources, which we dominate, 13.9 million to 2.7---msnbc this morning)

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/102032923.html

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/41908.html

IF we capture the cheeseheads, we have a better than 50-50 shot at replacing reid

the lay of electoral politics being what it is, that is

yes, it would probably require california AND washington (or west virginia, if not the pro wrestler in the demesne of mortgage fund managers)

and (here's the kicker) in the badger state primary last nite red turnout beat blues 2.64 to one

The 2010 Results Maps - POLITICO.com

worry

in florida three weeks ago, republicans outvoted dems 1.6 to one
 
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Dav said:
Dunno where you got the 21% number from, but the 26% number was not with Castle as the nominee, but with Castle as having a 75% chance of being the nominee. If he was nominated, the chances of a GOP takover (according to Nate Silver) would be 30%. Though I admit, the drop of 9% is less than what I would have expected.
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The article had a chart:

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disneydude said:
True....it was a longshot before...but this just makes it that much more probable that the Democrats will retain the Senate. That's all I'm saying.
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26% = long shot? 21% = "pretty much ensured"?

Mustachio said:
Yeah I don't think Democrats are thrilled that a woman who wrote an editorial called "The Case for Chastity" could hold a seat in the senate
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I doubt the Dems want to play that game.

GOP's Odds in Delaware Aren't Hopeless - WSJ.com

In a race that has already featured plenty of mud-slinging over the candidates' past behavior, Republicans say they are likely to highlight an article that Mr. Coons wrote while in college titled "Chris Coons: The Bearded Marxist."

The article, written in 1985 when Mr. Coons was 21, describes how a semester in Kenya made him question his faith in the U.S. and the capitalist system and converted him from being a Republican to a Democrat.
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beards, communism and kenya...

sometimes politics can be almost unfair

LOL!

seeya at the polls, progressives
 
The Prof said:
beards, communism and kenya...

sometimes politics can be almost unfair

LOL!

seeya at the polls, progressives
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It really is eerie. It also unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it) will feed into issues re: Obama's background.
 
fortunate, unfortunate...

it is what it is

the physics of politics, like natural law

thanks for the link, i didn't know about mr coons

i do now
 
whatever happened to ASTROTURF?

all these people, from alaska to florida, were turned about by "the wealthiest people in america to keep the focus on tax cuts for the rich?"

YouTube - Pelosi on Tea Parties: "We Call it Astroturf"

LOL!

that's an awful lotta GREEN!

are you sure these people know what they're doing?

what were YOU saying about those tantrum tossing town halls?
 
Wiseone said:
Ah thanks I feel dumb.

Anyway I think its a good article and I agree with O'Donnell when she talks about "Republican cannibalism" except I think her and other Tea Partiers are to blame. This is exactly what I've been talking about in several recent posts about compromise. Castle was willing to compromise with Dems and follow his voters, but because of that he didn't get everything a typical Republican would want in a candidate. The response apparently from enough Republicans in Delaware was to replace him with someone who would promise to give them, the Republicans, everything they want... if elected. And thats the problem, the majority of Republican voters in that state have "We are unwilling to compromise" and its going to cost them the election in Delaware and result in a candidate whos even more far off from what that majority wanted. So in the end, they'll get even less of what they want to see from a Senator.

Compromise is required!
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Castle's out and good riddance. He's for cap and tax.
It's time for everybody to rally for O'Donnell. It would be nice if Castle would endorse he or at least congratulate her. What's he going to do, back Chris Coons. He's for climate legislation too.
 
MrVicchio said:
Dan, the Base, is tired of your version of "pragmatism" and have spoken. We, as a whole, are tired of being forced to vote for candidates that are "pragmatic" and when they win they turn on the base, they "walk across the aisle" or vote with the Dem's on big issues.

What good is pragmatism when it doesn't make a difference, doesn't work for your goals?
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It worked for Reagan, but I do understand where you are coming from. After all, there are no more Reagans in the Republican party.
 
danarhea said:
It worked for Reagan, but I do understand where you are coming from. After all, there are no more Reagans in the Republican party.
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We don't know that for a fact. There could be one in the wings right now. But it seems a convenient excuse to turn your back on them for sure.


j-mac
 
danarhea said:
It worked for Reagan, but I do understand where you are coming from. After all, there are no more Reagans in the Republican party.
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Tell me, is it Castle's "Reagan-esque" support for abortion or his "Reagan-esque" support of government regulation and bail/buyouts or his "Reagan-esque" support for huge spending in part with entitlements that you think makes it a situation where the Republicans are wrong to not be compromising by going with him?

Its funny, you lament there's no more Reagans in the Republican Party while defending the inclusion of a person into the Republican Party that is far and away no where near Reagan.
 
Jetboogieman said:
I dunno about all that Pete...

but watching the rest of the video.

She's a complete ****ing idiot.
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Given the choice of the lesser of two evils... Above is a woman who depends on God to show her the way to be honest in all ways.
(How refreshing) a politician who thinks telling the truth is a top priority.

Below.... well, frankly,.... scary. I know who I'm supporting.


Coons took 'bearded Marxist' turn (Dem Delaware Senate Candidate) [New Window]
Who better to take the place of the idiot with the steel plate in his head than Coons the bearded Marxist - The Architect Karl (with a K) ...
Coons took 'bearded Marxist' turn (Dem Delaware Senate Candidate)

An article Democrat Chris Coons wrote for his college newspaper may not go over so well in corporation-friendly Delaware, where he already faces an uphill battle for Vice President Joe Biden’s old Senate seat.
The title? “Chris Coons: The Making of a Bearded Marxist.”
In the article, Coons, then 21 years old and about to graduate from Amherst College, chronicled his transformation from a sheltered, conservative-minded college student who had worked for former GOP Delaware Sen. William Roth and had campaigned for Ronald Reagan in 1980 into a cynical young adult who was distrustful of American power and willing to question the American notion of free enterprise.
Coons, the New Castle County executive who is running against GOP Rep. Michael Castle for the state’s open Senate seat, wrote of his political evolution in the May 23, 1985, edition of the Amherst Student.
The source of his conversion, Coons wrote, was a trip to Kenya he took during the spring semester of his junior year—a time away from America, he wrote, that served as a “catalyst” in altering a conservative political outlook that he was growing increasingly uncomfortable with.
 
Zyphlin said:
Tell me, is it Castle's "Reagan-esque" support for abortion or his "Reagan-esque" support of government regulation and bail/buyouts or his "Reagan-esque" support for huge spending in part with entitlements that you think makes it a situation where the Republicans are wrong to not be compromising by going with him?

Its funny, you lament there's no more Reagans in the Republican Party while defending the inclusion of a person into the Republican Party that is far and away no where near Reagan.
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It's one of Dan's favorite games. Corner him and he'll bring Reagan up and claim Reagan was the great moderate who inspired the left and the right to come together and got independents into it too. That's of course Poppycock, Reagan won by presenting the three things people want in a President.

1. Character
2. Leadership
3. Clear Vision

Reagan didn't draw everyone to the middle, he pulled the middle to him. But don't tell Dan that. He's trying to bring back "Reagan" by supporting republicans like Mike Castle.
 
Barbbtx said:
Given the choice of the lesser of two evils... Above is a woman who depends on God to show her the way to be honest in all ways.
(How refreshing) a politician who thinks telling the truth is a top priority.
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Believing in God, and telling the truth aren't mutually exclusive things.
 
BCR said:
Wow, after seeing that video, she makes Sarah Palin look like a genius.
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She was a better choice than Castle ( supports cap and trade) and she is a better choice than Coons. When is the media going to check his marxist background?
 
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