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O'Donnell wins Delaware

Really now? Hummmmm.

Oh Nooooos!


Are there no decent candidates anywhere?
Does being poor make you indecent?
I thought liberals were all for helping the poor? Looks like O'Donnell is pretty dang poor. Why do you want to begrudge her finally getting a job?
 
And (again, from a right-wing perspective) letting it pass makes the problems worse.

Don't believe it does, but if they helped make it better, that would be even less likely. I guess I see it as being part of the problem or part of the solution. Being engaged is better, IMHO, than being obstructionist.
 
No, they can do better. But I read the question as what makes you think she will do better? What has she changed, or what has changed?

The People have changed. They are wide eyed and bushy tailed and they ain't gonna take it anymore. :)

Ummm what is it now..47 days until we see even more change?
 
It was the one that was talking about her tax problem with the IRS for some $11K....It was pointed out to be an error, and already removed from IRS scrutiny....But no surprise your unattributable hit site goes on with the attack as if that doesn't matter.


See ya Friday.

j-mac

Here's an idea. Let's fire everyone in the government who owes the IRS or who has cheated on their taxes! One problem solved for the Tea Party. We will have our smaller government once they are gone. :)
 
Ahem, laws ARE at least rooted in the moral tenants of Christianity, "Thou shalt not kill" etc...however, to attach a label to repubs without knowing for a certainty like you did here with me, ie: "Evangelical" is a huge mistake liberals often make, and get awfully upset when any sort of label is attached to them. I wonder if it is some sort of block they have going on to see that they themselves do it, or what?

Righto.. because murder and killing were legally protected rights before Jesus came around..

It is based on limited government. Fore if you don't have that first, you don't have the individual freedoms, or rights other than what Uncle Sugar tells you that you can have.

I don't entirely disagree with this, because limiting government means individual freedom. I don't need government running my life. How can you advocate less government, if you think it is needed to babysit people though?

That is a pure dodge. You know most Muslims? man, your rolodex must be chock full. As for the Mosque, "BS" as you put it, in not being contested that they have the "right" to build it for the umpteenth time. But rather whether they should.

I know Muslims, but I am not basing what I said simply on the Muslims I know. I have seen plenty of polls that support my statement.

And the Mosque controversy being drummed up, is only being drummed up by neo cons. Have you heard Ron Paul's statement on the issue? Maybe you should read it.

You recognise their right, but you expect them to not exercise their rights.. appalling.

I see, so repubs are really just a bunch of war mongering, homophobes, and racists right? :roll: Man, when will you liberals learn that people arguing under the banner of the TP are fed up with BOTH "parties"? That although they may see repubs as a lesser of two evils as it were, that if that repub doesn't espouse constitutional values of less government, and less taxation, that they will be fought within the repub party.

Not all repubs.. mainly the neocons. I don't know when liberals will learn, as I am not a liberal. I am fed up with both parties too, but the repubs are not really advocating less government IMO. The evangelics are a dead weight. They seem to have a problem respecting (but not recognizing) the constitutional rights of other, as you indicated above. Democrats are appalling for growing gov as well.

TPers are not against a strong defense, or any of the enumerated powers laid out within the Constitution, but are tired of politicians treating the Constitution as if it were some quaint notion, laid out by men that had no idea of the future, and therefore think that they don't have to follow it properly.

Ironic, isn't it?

I can only hope that you and other liberals continue to think that way.

You're obviously way too partisan to see we support a lot of the same things.. I think people tend to so this because they let the two party system tell them what to think. I disagree with you on a few points, so I have to be with the other party.. learn to think outside of the party system. It is destroying the country.

The liberal 'war on poverty' is a huge failure, and has only served to foster generational dependency. And a guaranteed voting class for the demo's that keep promising more, but once in delivering little. Minority, and welfare (zero liability) voters have been duped by the libs for decades.

I agree.. But the republicans are not finding a real solution to poverty by saying they are lazy either. Lots of improvised people work their *** off in this economy and are barely getting by. Some folks are lazy.. because they expect everybody else to support them, but the reps stereotyping everything isn't helping either.

Are you actually arguing for a stronger Central Government? It hasn't worked, why would we continue to do that which has failed so miserably?

Not at all.. I am arguing for less federal government and for communities without force of government to refocus on rebuilding themselves. People in each others communities should learn to care for each other again, as they did before the fed government stepped in and started making every American support the poor and lazy. Local communities, charities, and churches should pick up the slack of the federal government. Is it too much to expect communities to start giving a crap about their financial well being?

It goes with what I am saying above.. Repubs just point fingers and blame, but they are really just supporting the cycle of poverty dems support. They'll get kicked off support and find ways to get back in. They'll get angry and vote the dem back in.. It's a self sustaining cycle withing both parities. They only way to end is to remove the burden is get the federal government out, and tell the communities to deal with it.. start educating their people and cutting taxes to create jobs and business growth. All Americans shouldn't have to take care of these people.. they need to move to a community with opportunities or create them in their community.

Again with the labels eh? So I guess I can take from this that you are saying that those who want a smaller government footprint in our lives, and lower taxes should just shut up and sit down eh? But I know, you're not a liberal right?


j-mac

Nope... OMG. I agree with you..
 
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Wait a minute.... which is it? First you admit that Scott Brown is pro-choice, then you seem to claim that the Republican party isn't open to people that don't agree with the entire party platform.

Seems you disproved your own misguided theory.

I agree with a lot of republican party platforms, but they scream liberal at me when I talk about disagreeing them in certain areas. I think it's a pretty fair assumption giving my own treatment.
 
And the Mosque controversy being drummed up, is only being drummed up by neo cons.

oh, brother

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dcn...ccording-to-a-quinnipiac-university-poll.html

You recognise their right, but you expect them to not exercise their rights.. appalling.

no, we recognize that mr rauf can't improve relations with his neighbors, which he claims is his purpose, by pissing em off

the republicans are not finding a real solution to poverty by saying they are lazy either

which republicans were those, again?

the neocons or the evangelicals?

I am arguing for less federal government and for communities without force of government to refocus on rebuilding themselves. People in each others communities should learn to care for each other again, as they did before the fed government stepped in and started making every American support the poor and lazy. Local communities, charities, and churches should pick up the slack of the federal government. Is it too much to expect communities to start giving a crap about their financial well being?

so many meaningless mutterings

It goes with what I am saying above.. Repubs just point fingers and blame, but they are really just supporting the cycle of poverty dems support. They'll get kicked off support and find ways to get back in. They'll get angry and vote the dem back in.. It's a self sustaining cycle withing both parities. They only way to end is to remove the burden is get the federal government out, and tell the communities to deal with it.. start educating their people and cutting taxes to create jobs and business growth. All Americans shouldn't have to take care of these people.. they need to move to a community with opportunities or create them in their community.

you talk too much
 
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Ugg, man. I've been looking into these "tea party" folk who've been elected. And people say libertarians are out there. This O'Donnell is off her f'n rocker. But she does make a decent Palin look alike.

Usually they wait until someone loses a general election to throw them under the bus (Palin) but these conservative power brokers are brutal. O'Donnell is making her primary victory speech, and Karl Rove is tossing her right under the bus.
 
oh, brother

New Yorkers strongly oppose mosque near ground zero, poll shows | D.C. Now | Los Angeles Times



no, we recognize that mr rauf can't improve relations with his neighbors, which he claims is his purpose, by pissing em off



which republicans were those, again?

the neocons or the evangelicals?



so many meaningless mutterings



you talk too much

That blog is meaningless.. supporting the Iraq War was once also popular

The fact is, neocons have control over the mosque debate.

Ron Paul Backs "Ground Zero Mosque," Splitting with Son Rand - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

So many meaningless mutterings.. really? I am speaking about how to actually dismantle government, instead of just talking about it... and a so called small government advocate says I talk to much.

:lamo :lamo :lamo

Face it buddy.. you don't have an independent thought in your head. If you did, you would be able to have a discussion about your values in a language that isn't full of buzz words and hype.
 
Usually they wait until someone loses a general election to throw them under the bus (Palin) but these conservative power brokers are brutal. O'Donnell is making her primary victory speech, and Karl Rove is tossing her right under the bus.
No doubt he's trying, but I think he'll live to regret it. His viciousness isn't making sense.
 
No doubt he's trying, but I think he'll live to regret it. His viciousness isn't making sense.

Why?

They run a tight ship over at the GOP, and can't have people thinking for themselves and voting in people who can't be controlled.

And I thought TEA Party was supposed to be about fiscal conservatism? O'Donnell is a fiscal train wreck who has some fringe-right social views.
 
Ugg, man. I've been looking into these "tea party" folk who've been elected. And people say libertarians are out there. This O'Donnell is off her f'n rocker. But she does make a decent Palin look alike.

Awww, are you sad that the Tea Party is doing what Libertarians haven't been able to do? That's get people in position to win elections?
 
Awww, are you sad that the Tea Party is doing what Libertarians haven't been able to do? That's get people in position to win elections?

...*facepalm*

So the Tea Party gets someone with a 95% chance of losing nominated over someone with a 95% chance of winning, and now you say that they're "getting people in a position to win elections"?

You admit that voting on principle is more important than voting for someone who can actually win, yet you say that the Tea Party, which did exactly this with O'Donnel, is "getting people in a position to win elections"?

You admit that you'd rather vote for a 3rd party candidate than for a moderate Republican, and then you say that the Tea Party is accomplishing what libertarians, a 3rd party, never could... by nominating somoene who can actually win? When that's exactly the opposite of what they did here?


Geez....
 
Why?

They run a tight ship over at the GOP, and can't have people thinking for themselves and voting in people who can't be controlled.

And I thought TEA Party was supposed to be about fiscal conservatism? O'Donnell is a fiscal train wreck who has some fringe-right social views.

O'Donnell won. She is the Republican that needs to beat Coons. Those are the choices.
Rove can think for himself without being all over FOX news and talk radio bashing her the way he is. It all sounds like sour grapes to me. He really wanted Castle to win. He's acting like a poor loser.
 
That blog is meaningless...

LOL!

quinnipiac finds 71% of NEW YORKERS not only want the mosque moved they want ag cuomo to INVESTIGATE its funding

New Yorkers strongly oppose mosque near ground zero, poll shows | D.C. Now | Los Angeles Times

The fact is, neocons have control over the mosque debate

LOL!

siena: Siena poll: Majority still opposes mosque - Capitol Confidential

rasmussen: 58% in New York Oppose Mosque Near Ground Zero - Rasmussen Reports™

nyt: Poll: Most New Yorkers oppose mosque - BostonHerald.com

that's an awful lot of bill kristols

I am speaking about how to actually dismantle government, instead of just talking about it...

so much mindless muttering

and a so called small government advocate says I talk to (sic) much.

yup, links are louder
 
Wait until you repubs find that mood of the country isn't anti-democrat but anti-incumbent.

Except what the mood really is is anti-progressive/socialist/scumbucket.

The Delaware GOP decided to ditch their socialist/scumbucket and now the whole state of Delaware will get to make the choice of scumbucket or not scumbucket.
 
Man....I was happy to see this. The seat probably would have stayed Democrat anyway....but this seals it. I LOVE how the Tea Party is destroying the GOP. Keep electing these far-right fringe candidates GOP supporters....us Democrats are loving it!

Hmmm...the Democrats are looking at the loss of fifty seats in the House and maybe seven seats in the Senate, and you're thinking the Tea Party is destroying the GOP?
 
That's funny. I though most Independents were Independents because they are not happy with EITHER party.

At least that's why I'm an Independent. And don't count your chickens before they hatch. I'm more unhappy with the part of "no, and let's screw this president every chance we get -- so we have a republican in the Whitehouse next time -- the country be damned."

A person can be independent and still have the sense to recognize the greatest danger to the republic and the greatest damage being done is the result of what the Democrats have been forcing on us for the last 90 years.

A person has to be blind, or dishonest, or both, to deny this.
 

I can post links too..

Daily Kos: Ron Paul Enters Mosque Debate - Tears Apart 'Neo-Cons'


Neocons Shamelessly Exploit 9/11 Pain to Ban Manhattan Mosque

Ron Paul says neocons push mosque controversy as ‘Rome burns’!

Commentary: Mosque outrage a twist for neocon agenda | detnews.com | The Detroit News

The Neocons And The Cordoba Mosque - The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan


What I am saying is going over your head...

Bush was elected twice in America. Bush policies were once popular in America too, so giving me those links doesn't prove neocons aren't behind the rhetoric. The fact is the people who were going against the neocons during the Bush years, are going after the neocons now and think they are largely behind the anti Mosque sentiment.
 
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Which ones, the anti-slavery Whigs or the Free-Soil Democrats?

The early Republicans were very progressive with free homesteads for farmers...

"Free Soil, Free Labor, Free Men"

Those roots weren't very conservative.

Hmmm.....you're saying a movement to get vacant out of the hands of the government and into the hands of the people isn't conservative?

Smaller government, capitalism.....sounds conservative to me.
 
I can't watch video on this but think i saw the same one on MSNBC. Do you think it will hurt her? Maddow thought it was a big hoot as did Olbermann.

Did Maddow get hot watching it?
 
Bush was elected twice in America. Bush policies were once popular in America too, so giving me those links doesn't prove neocons aren't behind the rhetoric. The fact is the people who were going against the neocons during the Bush years, are going after the neocons now and think they are largely behind the anti Mosque sentiment.


Well, DUH!

The United States had the choice between liberal Bush and Captain Ozone, or liberal Bush and the Papercut Purple Heart Pansy Gigolo who Voted For the Invasion of Iraq Before He Voted Against It, and contrary to leftist mythology, Bush won both elections lawfully.
 
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