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Springfield Pastor Plans To Burn Quran

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This thread makes me thing of the phrase "appeal to emotion" for some reason. Might be that this is all most of it is, with no real content.
 
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Also, that pedophile transmitted the word of God through the angel gabriel, I wouldnt put the religion down so quickly.
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In the Gospel it says that the devil will take on the guise of the Archangel to deceive false prophets, whilst Muhammad himself confessed on his death bed that he was 'possessed by demons'.

So I think I will put it down thank you very much!


Wait, whats this pedo business about?
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He spotted his 'wife' playing with her dolls and swing at six years old, the daughter of a henchman. Though disgusted, he let Muhammad 'marry' her anyway, though the dirty old fifty-something had the 'decency' to wait until she was 9 before raping her.

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'POSSESSED' MUHAMMAD'S SUICIDE ATTEMPTS: http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/suicide.htm

http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/demons.htm
 
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Redress said:
This thread makes me thing of the phrase "appeal to emotion" for some reason. Might be that this is all most of it is, with no real content.
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If you don't burn a Koran, the terraists have won.

Why do you want the terraists to win, you anti-Americun scum?
 
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j-mac said:
Why do you seem to hold more reverence for Islam than you do Christianity?


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Well Ive taken classes on it and interviewed a couple imams, why do muslims hold more reverence for christianity in their mainstream views than mainstream christians hold for them? (thats a big part of it)
 
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Coronado said:
Sure, if you don't read the whole article. But ignorance is more fun, right?
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Perhaps you should read the article because it clearly doesn't say what you're implying.

The first spate of violence of 2010 started on 17 January and lasted at least four days. Houses, churches, mosques and vehicles were set ablaze during the fighting.[5] At least 200 people were killed.[6] skirmishes began after Muslim youths set a Catholic church, filled with worshippers, on fire


Hundreds of people died in fresh clashes in March 2010. According to the New York Times, the slaughtered villagers were Yoruba, mostly Christians, slain by machete attacks from the Hausa-Fulani, a group of Muslim herdsmen Before dawn on 7 March 2010, more than one hundred Christian villagers were killed by Muslim Hausa-Fulani herders in Dogo-Nahawa village near Jos.[18][19] The attacks went on for four hours,[20] and nearby villages were also targeted.[21] Guns were fired by the perpetrators to cause panic and led to villagers running towards them to be chopped up by machetes.[18] The villagers were mainly Berom Christians.[22] Buildings were also set alight.[22] Most of the dead were women and children.[18] One of the dead was an infant less than three months of age.[20] Corpses were dumped in the streets
 
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I don't get why these people feel the need to announce every time they want to burn a Quran. I mean go for it, but shut the hell up. It is getting tiring to hear about.
 
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damianvincent said:
Perhaps you should read the article because it clearly doesn't say what you're implying.

The first spate of violence of 2010 started on 17 January and lasted at least four days. Houses, churches, mosques and vehicles were set ablaze during the fighting.[5] At least 200 people were killed.[6] skirmishes began after Muslim youths set a Catholic church, filled with worshippers, on fire


Hundreds of people died in fresh clashes in March 2010. According to the New York Times, the slaughtered villagers were Yoruba, mostly Christians, slain by machete attacks from the Hausa-Fulani, a group of Muslim herdsmen Before dawn on 7 March 2010, more than one hundred Christian villagers were killed by Muslim Hausa-Fulani herders in Dogo-Nahawa village near Jos.[18][19] The attacks went on for four hours,[20] and nearby villages were also targeted.[21] Guns were fired by the perpetrators to cause panic and led to villagers running towards them to be chopped up by machetes.[18] The villagers were mainly Berom Christians.[22] Buildings were also set alight.[22] Most of the dead were women and children.[18] One of the dead was an infant less than three months of age.[20] Corpses were dumped in the streets
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Cherry-picking and moving the goalposts in addition to failure to read and/or comprehend the material presented. Good show, old boy! :sarcasticclap
 
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Redress said:
This thread makes me thing of the phrase "appeal to emotion" for some reason. Might be that this is all most of it is, with no real content.
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Their is a lot of content here, 9/11, how much the religion the attackers professed and died for played into the larger problem of terrorism, American reaction to the anniversary of this atrocity.

Of course their is emotion involved, with the anniversary of such a tragic event, and many Americans still wondering why.
 
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damianvincent said:
Their is a lot of content here, 9/11, how much the religion the attackers professed and died for played into the larger problem of terrorism, American reaction to the anniversary of this atrocity.

Of course their is emotion involved, with the anniversary of such a tragic event, and many Americans still wondering why.
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It's always good to make decisions based on emotion. That never ends up badly. :roll:
 
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...many Americans still wondering why.
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The West has come down with a bad attack of Islam and a huge dose of education will stiffen the moral fibre (fiber).
 
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damianvincent said:
Perhaps you should read the article because it clearly doesn't say what you're implying.

The first spate of violence of 2010 started on 17 January and lasted at least four days. Houses, churches, mosques and vehicles were set ablaze during the fighting.[5] At least 200 people were killed.[6] skirmishes began after Muslim youths set a Catholic church, filled with worshippers, on fire


Hundreds of people died in fresh clashes in March 2010. According to the New York Times, the slaughtered villagers were Yoruba, mostly Christians, slain by machete attacks from the Hausa-Fulani, a group of Muslim herdsmen Before dawn on 7 March 2010, more than one hundred Christian villagers were killed by Muslim Hausa-Fulani herders in Dogo-Nahawa village near Jos.[18][19] The attacks went on for four hours,[20] and nearby villages were also targeted.[21] Guns were fired by the perpetrators to cause panic and led to villagers running towards them to be chopped up by machetes.[18] The villagers were mainly Berom Christians.[22] Buildings were also set alight.[22] Most of the dead were women and children.[18] One of the dead was an infant less than three months of age.[20] Corpses were dumped in the streets
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"In January, 1997 the LRA attacked Lamwo, in northern Uganda. More than 400 people are killed, and approximately 100,000 people are displaced."

"In May, 2002 the LRA attacked Eastern Equatoria in Sudan. An estimated 450 people were killed, and witnesses state some villagers were forced to walk off a cliff."

"On December 25, 2008, the LRA massacred 189 people and abducted 120 children during a concert celebration sponsored by the Catholic church in Faradje, Democratic Republic of Congo, continuing the attack on December 26."

"In December, 2009, the LRA massacred "at least" 321 people in the Democratic Republic of Congo, according to a BBC investigation published in March, 2010 (see Makombo massacre). The deaths were verified by the Red Cross and Human Rights Watch. Victims were hacked or battered to death, and survivors were made to carry loads for their attackers. At least eighty children of both sexes were captured, the boys as fighters, the girls to be sex slaves for the LRA members."

Oh yeah:

"Lord’s Resistance Army is just the name of the movement, because we are fighting in the name of God. God is the one helping us in the bush. That’s why we created this name, Lord’s Resistance Army. And people always ask us, are we fighting for the [biblical] Ten Commandments of God. That is true – because the Ten Commandments of God is the constitution that God has given to the people of the world. All people. If you go to the constitution, nobody will accept people who steal, nobody could accept to go and take somebody’s wife, nobody could accept to innocently kill, or whatever. The Ten Commandments carries all this."
 
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Degreez said:
"In January, 1997 the LRA attacked Lamwo, in northern Uganda. More than 400 people are killed, and approximately 100,000 people are displaced."

"In May, 2002 the LRA attacked Eastern Equatoria in Sudan. An estimated 450 people were killed, and witnesses state some villagers were forced to walk off a cliff."

"On December 25, 2008, the LRA massacred 189 people and abducted 120 children during a concert celebration sponsored by the Catholic church in Faradje, Democratic Republic of Congo, continuing the attack on December 26."

"In December, 2009, the LRA massacred "at least" 321 people in the Democratic Republic of Congo, according to a BBC investigation published in March, 2010 (see Makombo massacre). The deaths were verified by the Red Cross and Human Rights Watch. Victims were hacked or battered to death, and survivors were made to carry loads for their attackers. At least eighty children of both sexes were captured, the boys as fighters, the girls to be sex slaves for the LRA members."

Oh yeah:

"Lord’s Resistance Army is just the name of the movement, because we are fighting in the name of God. God is the one helping us in the bush. That’s why we created this name, Lord’s Resistance Army. And people always ask us, are we fighting for the [biblical] Ten Commandments of God. That is true – because the Ten Commandments of God is the constitution that God has given to the people of the world. All people. If you go to the constitution, nobody will accept people who steal, nobody could accept to go and take somebody’s wife, nobody could accept to innocently kill, or whatever. The Ten Commandments carries all this."
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No Link, but I found it anyway, and now who's cherry picking...

The LRA's ideology is disputed amongst academics.[23][25] While most academics and media outlets regard LRA as primarily a Christian militia,[4][5][6][7][8][9][10] the LRA reportedly evokes Acholi nationalism on occasion,[26] but the sincerity of this behavior is considered dubious by some observers.[27][28] During its brief alliance with the Muslim country of Sudan it also claimed to be Islamic as well, an apparent contradiction.[29]

Lord's Resistance Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


It's a political movement, using whatever religion gains them an advantage.
 
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If you saddle an entire culture / population / religion with stigma based on the actions of an infinitesimal fraction, that's hate and bigotry straight up.
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Infinitesimal fraction? It's not just them but also sympathisers and supremacists of various hues. As indeed I mentioned above.

And the religion? Yes, definitely wicked and vicious, though human nature means Muslims themselves not necessarily are.
 
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damianvincent said:
No Link, but I found it anyway, and now who's cherry picking...

The LRA's ideology is disputed amongst academics.[23][25] While most academics and media outlets regard LRA as primarily a Christian militia,[4][5][6][7][8][9][10] the LRA reportedly evokes Acholi nationalism on occasion,[26] but the sincerity of this behavior is considered dubious by some observers.[27][28] During its brief alliance with the Muslim country of Sudan it also claimed to be Islamic as well, an apparent contradiction.[29]

Lord's Resistance Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


It's a political movement, using whatever religion gains them an advantage.
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Weird, I could've sworn the vast majority of Muslims dispute the ideology as expounded by Al-Qaeda and other militant Islamic organizations. That doesn't stop you from lumping them all together. That doesn't stop you from posting generalizations. Engaging in fallacious reasoning only shows the flaws in your arguments. I know you're new here, but you'll understand that as time passes by.
 
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Republic_Of_Public said:
Infinitesimal fraction? It's not just them but also sympathisers and supremacists of various hues. As indeed I mentioned above.
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Ah, you mean the people not actually committing acts of terror and violence, whom we are going to convict without any, much less all, of the facts.

Well, I guess that just settles everything then. :lol:
 
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This guy's a whiny loser whose only claim to fame will be this stupid event.
 
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Hopefully he doesn't injure himself or anyone else.

If he does, I'm sure he'll blame it on teh ebbil Korean. :lol:
 
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Ah, you mean the people not actually committing acts of terror and violence, whom we are going to convict without any, much less all, of the facts.
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I think you're playing Devil's Advocate here, those words chosen carefully.

I'd say a quarter of those Muslims polled are just as bad as they're part of the same vanguard, encouraged and emboldened by their own prophet, who once famously jeered that "I have been made victorious through terror".

Peaceful Muslims I leave alone. Wicked fifth columns and the vile ideology itself, though, are indeed in my sights. It would be negligence not to scrutinise those.


And these facts you summon? Let's have them so we can debate them, if you're so knowledgeable. I hope you won't be like all the other liberals or leftards, who when called upon to debate the ideology and the Koran back away and resort to insults!
 
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Republic_Of_Public said:
I think you're playing Devil's Advocate here, those words chosen carefully.
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What can I say? It's a living. :lol:

Republic_Of_Public said:
I'd say a quarter of those Muslims polled are just as bad as they're part of the same vanguard
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Right, so like I said, without any, much less all, of the facts.

Republic_Of_Public said:
, encouraged and emboldened by their own prophet, who once famously jeered that "I have been made victorious through terror".
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Nothing like an out-of-context quote from an ancient religious text. You couldn't possibly pull anything like that out of the Bible!
 
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I'll ask of you what I asked of someone else - let's have the facts so we can debate them! Don't hide behind hyperbole and innuendo.

I've shot my bolt and provided links galore to back them up. Let's hear you out.

And while we're at it, let us all hear you outline the context of the Koran, why and how it was written and for what purpose. (And don't just say 'God'.)

Then we can all see how 'wrong' I am in stark black and white! Won't that by easy for a mastermind like you?


Will you put your balls on the table? Or will you flee as the last person did?



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All this chap had to debate with was slogans as well: http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...alls-off-burning-qurans-4.html#post1058974710
 
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Degreez said:
Weird, I could've sworn the vast majority of Muslims dispute the ideology as expounded by Al-Qaeda and other militant Islamic organizations. That doesn't stop you from lumping them all together. That doesn't stop you from posting generalizations. Engaging in fallacious reasoning only shows the flaws in your arguments. I know you're new here, but you'll understand that as time passes by.
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Generalizations? Beheadings common place, amputations, the stoning of woman, legal rape, these are the tip of the ice berg and all common place in most Islamic nations judicial systems. Lets not forget woman not being able to drive, show their faces or be in public without a male relative...
 
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