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Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

CriticalThought said:
Exactly! It isn't like an Christian President who under the pretext of acting under direction from God, attacked a predominately Muslim country, and over the course of a war, killed 100,000 Muslims. I mean, that kinda crap just doesn't happen. Christians never attack Muslims.

Oh wait...

Bush: God Told Me to Invade Iraq
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George Bush was not the only one in the American government who wanted to eliminate Saddam Hussein and there were many other coalition countries involved as well. Many countries of a varierty of faiths, or non faiths, were against this mmadman. It is Muslims who are still carrying out killings in Iraq against other Muslims, by the way.

To claim that this was in any way a religious war by the Uniited States and their coalition partners is ludicrous.

That's quite an intersting sirte you pointed out though.
 
hazlnut said:
Grant, you should read your own articles.



Sounds like she knew she was violating school policy and proselytizing... BTW -- Why didn't her parents put her in a Christian school if that was so important?
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That's why I said that Christianity was being discouraged in the US public school system. The evidence seems clear that this is so. Don't you agree?
 
Situations like this are really funny to me because, when a group is supported by the left and is attacked, the right say it was a false flag to blame the right and vice versa.

Personally I would given them money too and the address of a gun dealer who doesnt care who you are.
 
Grant said:
George Bush was not the only one in the American government who wanted to eliminate Saddam Hussein and there were many other coalition countries involved as well. Many countries of a varierty of faiths, or non faiths, were against this mmadman. It is Muslims who are still carrying out killings in Iraq against other Muslims, by the way.

To claim that this was in any way a religious war by the Uniited States and their coalition partners is ludicrous.

That's quite an intersting sirte you pointed out though.
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I see no problem with the school allowing this kid to talk about Christ, so long as someone else can talk about whatever deity they want to. Personally I think it would be a riot if some kid gave their valedictorian speech and thanked Satan, lord of hell and slayer of infidels. Because let's face it, if there is a christian afterlife, hell is gonna be filled with rock concerts, orgies, drugs, and alcohol. What's heaven gonna be? Sitting around with the old Bible-thumpers listening to Appalachian gospel music. So anyone with a modicum of common sense would worship the Devil, because that's where the party is gonna be.
 
If this was in fact committed by a Christian,

Why is it so hard for people to believe that in a state like Tennessee a crime like this would have been committed by a Christian? Is is unheard of for religious institutions to be burnt down in America and more specifically in the South? Yes, yes, I know it happened in the North too but 50 years after the Civil rights movement is it impossible to believe that a state where racism, xenophobia and plain disgust for all that which includes a minority were not all that 'uncommon'(I'm being generous in this post) a generation ago something like this would happen? At the end of the day, we'll have to wait and see who committed but our middle aged white men who are huffing and puffing at the thought of a crime such as this having been committed in Tennessee need to pick up a few history books. This is the same state where this kind of **** comes from:

Racist e-mail aimed at Obama raises hackles in Tennessee - CNN

The chairman of Tennessee's Democratic Party wants a Republican legislative aide fired for sending out a "reprehensible" e-mail depicting President Obama as two cartoonish white eyes peering from a black background.

Obama's image is in the last square of a collage containing portraits of the previous 43 U.S. presidents. The e-mail, which was sent to other GOP staff members, was posted on the Internet Monday.
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Steve Cohen (D, TN-09) called racist by Democrats, returns the favor to Tea Partiers. | RedState

You know, back in the day, I had a certain sympathy for Democrat Steve Cohen (TN-09): back in 2008 he had been targeted for being a Jew by primary challenger Nikki Tinker, with nary a word of objection made by then Senator and now-President Barack Obama, who Cohen enthusiastically supported. It was obvious, even as early as last year, that this theme would probably be revisited in 2010 by former Memphis Mayor Willie Herenton, if a bit more skillfully. At the time, I was disappointed.
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Hatuey said:
If this was in fact committed by a Christian,

Why is it so hard for people to believe that in a state like Tennessee a crime like this would have been committed by a Christian? Is is unheard of for religious institutions to be burnt down in America and more specifically in the South? Yes, yes, I know it happened in the North too but 50 years after the Civil rights movement is it impossible to believe that a state where racism, xenophobia and plain disgust for all that which includes a minority were not all that 'uncommon'(I'm being generous in this post) a generation ago something like this would happen? At the end of the day, we'll have to wait and see who committed but our middle aged white men who are huffing and puffing at the thought of a crime such as this having been committed in Tennessee need to pick up a few history books. This is the same state where this kind of **** comes from
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Ahh, thats BS. Just more labeling being done by you here hautey. I thought liberals were against guilt by association, I guess that is only when you have to explain it about your own ilk. Perfectly fine if you are doing it to others though. :roll:


Let me tell you something, in my years of life I have lived in every region in the east. I grew up in Lansing MI., married and settled near Baltimore MD, and now live in Greenville SC. And I have to say, that from observation I saw more racism from white liberals in the north growing up, than I do today from southern white conservatives here in the south.

As for your examples, the aid was fired, what else do you want?

And your "Young Turks" phone interview of Steve Cohen really doing nothing more than calling those involved with the Tea Party Klansmen, and racists is just another example of how scared you libs are, and how disingenuous liberal shows like the "Young Turks" are....I'll be glad when demo's are swept from power this November, then we'll here the cryin' again.


j-mac
 
SgtRock said:
I know you guys hate to be called soldiers. .......I don't mean to be a dick about it, but as much as you may not like to be called a soldier. You are a soldier. Virtually every dictionary defines a marine as a soldier.
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It's a generic term. As is "Army." Marines are specialized. Were we not specialized, we would just be called "Army." "Soldier" implies a specific branch for anybody that knows better. This is why it is not capitalized in a sentence unless it begins the sentence. You obviously know this since you acknowledged that we hate being called "soldiers." Which leads me to believe that you did it on purpose.

SgtRock said:
I am bitter, and full of hate. Afterall hate is a normal human emotion and anyone who tells you they do not or never have felt the emotion hate is either lying or in denial. [

I hope you are right and I am wrong about the American Muslim.
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You are wrong about the American Muslim. This does not mean that all are pure and that a handful may seek harm. Of course, that number is absolutely rediculous compared to the non-Muslims across the nation that does harm. But consider these four things:

1) You allow yourself to feel your hate and justify it as normal human emotion. Our enemies do this and have built a justifcation for never ending hate around it.

2) Never in the history of war have an entire people been the enemy of another. Obviously some civilizations have decided otherwise and slaughtered man, woman, and child as their enemies. It can be argued that even we did this once. We look back on the American Indian and easily state "too far." War turns into genocide and those who are not our enemy become targets. Germany knows all about this as they declared war on tribes.

3) The key ingredient to turning Iraq around was support from Iraqi Muslims and advice from cultural experts in Washington who happen to be Muslim. The vast majority of all Muslims, to include within the ME, have wanted equality and democracy since Europeans were colonizing them.

4) Facing this enemy in Somalia (pre-9/11) and twice in Iraq (post-9/11) has left me with a hunger to understand this enemy.


SgtRock said:
Have a good labor day Marine.
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See? Here you capitalize it and address me for what I am. You have a good day too.
 
You are wrong about the American Muslim. This does not mean that all are pure and that a handful may seek harm. Of course, that number is absolutely rediculous compared to the non-Muslims across the nation that does harm. But consider these four things
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Source please!
 
MSgt said:
You are wrong about the American Muslim. This does not mean that all are pure and that a handful may seek harm.
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The declaration of war on terrorism was/is a politically sound strategic move to avoid pushing the fence sitters. What else were we going to declare war on? Anything with the word "Muslim" or any insinuation of a Muslim faction overtly admitted would have inflamed the entire Muslim community.

Politicians call it the "War on Terrorism" so as to not inflame the Muslims, but we all know what it really is - it is a Jihad on the Jihad and not to dismiss the entire religion, but the fact is most terrorists today are Muslims.
 
Singularity said:
I see no problem with the school allowing this kid to talk about Christ, so long as someone else can talk about whatever deity they want to. Personally I think it would be a riot if some kid gave their valedictorian speech and thanked Satan, lord of hell and slayer of infidels. Because let's face it, if there is a christian afterlife, hell is gonna be filled with rock concerts, orgies, drugs, and alcohol. What's heaven gonna be? Sitting around with the old Bible-thumpers listening to Appalachian gospel music. So anyone with a modicum of common sense would worship the Devil, because that's where the party is gonna be.
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Agreed, Singularity, though anyone worshiping Satan probably wouldn't have the smarts to become class valedictorian.
 
ric27 said:
The declaration of war on terrorism was/is a politically sound strategic move to avoid pushing the fence sitters. What else were we going to declare war on? Anything with the word "Muslim" or any insinuation of a Muslim faction overtly admitted would have inflamed the entire Muslim community.

Politicians call it the "War on Terrorism" so as to not inflame the Muslims, but we all know what it really is - it is a Jihad on the Jihad and not to dismiss the entire religion, but the fact is most terrorists today are Muslims.
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No it is called the War on Terrorism because that is what we are fighting terrorism. We aren't fighting the Muslim religion, but rather extremists who use a religion to commit acts of terrorism.
 
MSgt said:
Source for what?
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For what i quoted. Unless you miswrote or yourself dont understand what you wrote.

This does not mean that all are pure and that a handful may seek harm. Of course, that number is absolutely rediculous compared to the non-Muslims across the nation that does harm.
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Muslims cause more or less harm than other americans?
 
Grant said:
George Bush was not the only one in the American government who wanted to eliminate Saddam Hussein and there were many other coalition countries involved as well. Many countries of a varierty of faiths, or non faiths, were against this mmadman. It is Muslims who are still carrying out killings in Iraq against other Muslims, by the way.

To claim that this was in any way a religious war by the Uniited States and their coalition partners is ludicrous.

That's quite an intersting sirte you pointed out though.
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Exactly how many Muslim countries joined this coalition?

The coalition was a joke. Only America and Britain have really shouldered the burden of the war.

It is innane to pretend this was not a religiously motivated war.
 
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CriticalThought said:
Exactly how many Muslim countries joined this coalition?

The coalition was a joke. Only America and Britain have really shouldered the burden of the war.
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Are you trying to say that there weren't any?


j-mac
 
CriticalThought said:
Please, point out a Muslim cuontry that has troops in Iraq.
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Non-US Forces in Iraq - February 2007
The size and capabilities of the Coalition forces involved in operations in Iraq has been a subject of much debate, confusion, and at times exageration. As of August 23, 2006, there were 21 non-U.S. military forces contributing armed forces to the Coalition in Iraq. These 21 countries were: Albania, Armenia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, Poland, Romania, South Korea, and the United Kingdom.

Iraq Coalition - Non-US Forces in Iraq
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I see some in there, don't you? Let's not forget the aid with bases from countries like Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Quttar.


NEXT!

j-mac
 
j-mac said:
I see some in there, don't you? Let's not forget the aid with bases from countries like Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Quttar.


NEXT!

j-mac
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I did not ask about aid. I asked you to point out one, just one, Muslim country that has troops in Iraq. I'm still waiting.

The only two countries listed there that are Muslim majority countries are Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan, which combined contributed less than 300 troops which were kept on their respective bases rather than engaging in any fighting. And both those countries withdrew their troops back in 2008. So you are still wrong.

NEXT!
 
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CriticalThought said:
I did not ask about aid. I asked you to point out one, just one, Muslim country that has troops in Iraq. I'm still waiting.

The only two countries listed there that are Muslim majority countries are Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan, which combined contributed less than 300 troops which were kept on their respective bases rather than engaging in any fighting. And both those countries withdrew their troops back in 2008. So you are still wrong.

NEXT!
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Wait, you are now moving the goal posts....Why? Is it because you realized that we did get support from other muslim countries?

here, you said:

"I asked you to point out one, just one, Muslim country that has troops in Iraq."

then followed it up with and answer to your own question here:

"The only two countries listed there that are Muslim majority countries are Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan"

then you disqualified them because they didn't meet your magical definition of what you wanted so you moved the goal posts....Nah, I answered you, and showed you wrong in your assumption. Now can we move on?


j-mac
 
Grant said:
That's why I said that Christianity was being discouraged in the US public school system. The evidence seems clear that this is so. Don't you agree?
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j-mac said:
Wait, you are now moving the goal posts....Why? Is it because you realized that we did get support from other muslim countries?

here, you said:

"I asked you to point out one, just one, Muslim country that has troops in Iraq."

then followed it up with and answer to your own question here:

"The only two countries listed there that are Muslim majority countries are Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan"

then you disqualified them because they didn't meet your magical definition of what you wanted so you moved the goal posts....Nah, I answered you, and showed you wrong in your assumption. Now can we move on?


j-mac
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My quote was...

"Please, point out a Muslim cuontry that has troops in Iraq."

There are currently no Muslim countries that have troops in Iraq. I haven't moved anything. You simply didn't read my post very well.

And I think you did a great job of proving my point. This was largely a religious war. Of the tens of thousands of troops that engaged in Iraq, less than 300 were from predominantly Muslim countries, pretty much none of those engaged in combat, and they withdrew in 2008.
 
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