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Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

I only posted this to prove Obama is a Muslim out to destroy America.

BHO is destroying American because of his ridiculous economic theories and policies, not because of his religion.

If he was to practicing Islam the United States would be debt free. I'll bet that Mosque at the 9/11 site will come in on time and right on budget, something that Obama could never accomplish. Can you imagine Obama being in charge of any business?

Apart from running General Motors, major banks, and the United States, of course.
 
SCOTUS banned Voluntary Prayer before Football games because it "violated separation of Church and State".

Maybe you missed that? Yeah and IT, since he thanked you.

You do realize that you aren't required to pray in unison, out loud, for God to hear it in Christianity, right?
 
Except that argument falls flat on it's face.

Did you know that:
The Office of the Chaplain, United States House of Representatives

Oh look, there is a Chaplin, who prays before the House and Senate...

Sounds like the HOUSE and SENATE are in violation of the Constitution... by your logic at least..

Here is the Constitutional reasoning behind that:

They stated the ultimate authority for the position lies in the Constitution which states that the House and Senate may each choose their officers, with no restrictions on what kind of officers may be chosen. Using that authority, both chambers have chosen to continue to elect an officer to act as Chaplain.

C-SPAN's Capitol Questions

I don't think schools have the same Constitutional protection.
 
Is there anything in the US Constitution regarding the separation of Church and state?

My understanding is that there is not.

The appropriate part reads "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" .

In fact that is the argument many Muslims and their supporters are using regarding the building of the mosque near the site of 9/11.

So it does seem that many will use the 'separation of church and state' argument, despite its non existence in the Constitution, to use it in areas they support, while also using it to restrict voluntary school prayer, for example.

Of course no one is denying that the Muslims have a right to build the Mosque there, given the legal zoning, only that it is insensitive towards the American people.

There's that 'insensitive' word again.
 
In Aug 2004 a florida woman Lina Morales was fired from her job for eating a BLT because it was not halah.

stealth jihad, sharia creep? You tell me.

Woman Fired For Eating 'Unclean' Meat - Money News Story - WKMG Orlando

There are many examples. CAIR (the unindited co-conspirator to the Holyland foundation whose members are in prison for funneling money to Hamas) and thier attorneys are behind much of this.

Target sued because muslims were told they would have to handle non halah items. Taxi drivers in Minn. refusing to pick up people who had been drinking. It goes on and on.

Here's another one linked to CAIR

Muslim employee, Hamas-linked CAIR sue Disney for "right" to wear ... [New Window]
Aug 19, 2010 ... "Muslim employee accuses Disney of discrimination," from the Orange ..... faces and suing the city that the squeaky wheel gets the juice. ...
Muslim employee, Hamas-linked CAIR sue Disney for "right" to wear hijab rather than company uniform - Jihad Watch
 
If you want prayer in schools then you must give every religion equal time. That would make for a long day.

I think what should be done is allow for a moment of silence. Students could pray, daydream or quietly pick their noses.
Everyone would have equal time.
I think we should also have the Pledge of Allegiance in schools on a voluntary basis.
 
I think what should be done is allow for a moment of silence. Students could pray, daydream or quietly pick their noses.
Everyone would have equal time.
Lots of schools have already implemented this with morning announcements, and I honestly don't see anything wrong with it.
I think we should also have the Pledge of Allegiance in schools on a voluntary basis.
It is voluntary. You cannot be forced to recite the pledge in school.
 
Here is the Constitutional reasoning behind that:



I don't think schools have the same Constitutional protection.

All the more reason we should get the federal government out of our schools.
 
You do realize that you aren't required to pray in unison, out loud, for God to hear it in Christianity, right?

It goes beyond that:

Matthew 6:5-6:6 said:
5"And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. " 6"But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
 
Here is the Constitutional reasoning behind that:



I don't think schools have the same Constitutional protection.

You're right, they have more. People like you helped destroy that. The restriction is on the CONGRESS establishing a religion, says nothing about prayers in schools or other such.
 
You're right, they have more. People like you helped destroy that. The restriction is on the CONGRESS establishing a religion, says nothing about prayers in schools or other such.

Congress funds the schools. ;)
 
You're right, they have more. People like you helped destroy that. The restriction is on the CONGRESS establishing a religion, says nothing about prayers in schools or other such.

What he heck are you talking they have more?
 
What he heck are you talking they have more?

Read the Constitution, specifically the 1st Amendment.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

There ya go sport.
 
Read the Constitution, specifically the 1st Amendment.



There ya go sport.

What's funny is that it makes no mention of the Judiciary branch saying it's off limits. :lol:
 
Read the Constitution, specifically the 1st Amendment.



There ya go sport.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Now, wouldn't forbidding Muslims to pray when their religion dictates be prohibiting their free exercise?
 
Read the Constitution, specifically the 1st Amendment.



There ya go sport.

Ya know there really is no reason for you to be condescending, sparky.

The establishment clause keeps your religion and mine too out of schools
 
Ya know there really is no reason for you to be condescending, sparky.

The establishment clause keeps your religion and mine too out of schools

And that's abusing the clause. It wasn't meant to silence religion in all things public. A church met in the US capitol up until the Civil War. Many who wrote and signed the constitution attended services there.
 
Now, wouldn't forbidding Muslims to pray when their religion dictates be prohibiting their free exercise?

That's not the point, I'm hammering on the inconstancy of the left. Defending Muslim School Prayers, yet at the same time condoning banning Christian or other prayer activity. The loops IT has gone through to justify his backing this logical fallacy certainly are enlightening.
 
Ya know there really is no reason for you to be condescending, sparky.

The establishment clause keeps your religion and mine too out of schools

I'm pointing out that the very people who WROTE the Constitution did not agree with your, or this modern progress view, of the 1st Amendment.
 
I'm pointing out that the very people who WROTE the Constitution did not agree with your, or this modern progress view, of the 1st Amendment.

This is just blatantly false.
 
That's not the point,
Yes it is! Quit choosing to remain purposefully ignorant.
I'm hammering on the inconstancy of the left. Defending Muslim School Prayers, yet at the same time condoning banning Christian or other prayer activity. The loops IT has gone through to justify his backing this logical fallacy certainly are enlightening.
The only inconsistency is your posts. We are defending the rights of people to practice their religion in private and not sanctioned by the State. You have suggested that the State is allowed to sanction religion in school, which is ridiculous.
 
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