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U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

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Has or hasn't US had a role in ME prior to 9/11 ME which includes some of the countries we have now invaded?
It's a simple yes or no.

I know the correct answer but you clearly don't.
 
You know how those Heroin Barons are, Clinton probably insulted their honor with that amount.

I hope you get an answer to your question, It should be classic firebrained leftist muck.

I dunno, the Libbos don't seem to be foggin' in here to stick up for the oppressed.
 
has or hasn't us had a role in me prior to 9/11 me which includes some of the countries we have now invaded?
It's a simple yes or no.

I know the correct answer but you clearly don't.

irrelavant!
 
Has or hasn't US had a role in ME prior to 9/11 ME which includes some of the countries we have now invaded?
It's a simple yes or no.

I know the correct answer but you clearly don't.

Obviously, we know the answer. But, are you willing to tell us that that intervention justified the murder of 3,000 Americans on 9/11. Care to answer that one?

Your evasiveness purdy much answers the question; but are you willing to say it for all to hear?
 
I didn't realize it was our duty to protest what others do of their own free will and in contradiction of our religious beliefs.

Perhaps you're not an American then, Degreez. In the democracies people are expected to protest against the unjust treatment of others. This was best demonstrated during the period when American Blacks were being persecuted for the color of their skin. Good and brave people protested and changes were made. There was a saying which originated during that period I believe which said, "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem". You appear to be part of the problem.
And because these Muslims do not fulfill your obligation of protesting every action any Muslim ever commits, you lump them together with the most extreme of that group
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Yes, I do. If you don't protest and speak out then you are a part of the problem and should be identified as such.
I don't see Christians regularly protesting what the Klu Klux Klan does.

The KKK are hardly a factor anymore but indeed there were Christians protesting against them and, most famously perhaps, Jews. It seems you aren't American. It was the left who consistently elected a former member of the KKK to government, however, and they are not always identified with Christianity.

"Does that mean I am allowed to lump those Christians with the KKK? No, that would be fallacious reasoning and devoid of logic".

As I just explained, many Christians did protest against the KKK and racism. Few Muslims ever protest against the ongoing slaughter against innocent people everywhere and instead we get feeble attempts at relativism. Or those who do protest have fatwas issued against them and require 24 hour protection.

"Yeah! In your nine months here you really got a great understanding of me! "

No, in fact its taken several years to learn about people like you. I once had a live and let live attitude as well, until I realized a significant number of Muslims didn't.

"In fact, I've participated in an Al-Maghrib Outreach Program that sent me to Ramallah to teach children about things that contradict true Islam (you know, those things you believe all Muslims actually commit)".

Right. I'm sure the acts of terrorism ceased as a result and you pointed out the importance of free thought, free will and democracy.

Well, when one is ignorant of the subject, and posts like he is ignorant of the subject, one may only assume the poster is purposely using his ignorance to debate honestly.

Point out any dishonesty in my posts and you'll get an apology.


Your understanding of Islam is most likely limited to a few hate sites who's only intent is to show Islam in a bad light.

Au contraire, I've been debating the subject for several years, beginning not long after 9/11. I spend a fair bit of time on Islamic web sites seeing what they're thinking and they're often genuine eye openers.

It's obvious you have never opened a Qur'an before or even read one in context. You'd realize that less than one percent of the Qur'an has to do with actual physical violence. But again, that is assuming you are willing to engage in an honest discussin in which ignorance does not guide your posts.

I often get Muslims sending me quotes from the Koran, just as you did, but I have little interest in what it has to say. Same with the misogynist and violent parts.

All I want is for Muslims to stop terrorism, destroying the lives of women and young girls, and their 24 hours a day bitching about one thing or another. And no matter how ignorant you might claim me to be, at least I am not a Muslim.
 
I dunno, the Libbos don't seem to be foggin' in here to stick up for the oppressed.

So, we just have one anti-american kook here?
 
Has or hasn't US had a role in ME prior to 9/11 ME which includes some of the countries we have now invaded?
It's a simple yes or no.

I know the correct answer but you clearly don't.

You are only exposing the truth about how you really feel about 9.11

Answer his question.

Are you claiming it was justified yes or no?
 
Obviously, we know the answer. But, are you willing to tell us that that intervention justified the murder of 3,000 Americans on 9/11. Care to answer that one?

So then why don't you just say YES?

What, is there something painful in admitting your countries history?
Look, I'll even start the ball rolling.
UK ****ed up many countries in its era as world power and left behind a load of ****. Now your turn.

Allah forbids the death of innocents.
 
What?
Only in the last couple of decades has the West accepted ethnic minorities and you expect me to believe it has always welcomed Islam?

Muslims have never historically been a problem but colonisation and Western interference in Muslim countries however much some people deny history, does play a role in the dislike toward some countries.
UK is not very liked in Iran and I can't say I blame Iranians considering we kept ****ing up their Governments and the country but that doesn't mean I'd stand for Iranians bombing UK just that I understand why we aren't Miss Popular

Do you not think that many young Muslims have a romantic idea of what jihad is instead of understanding the truth behind it?
 
Do you not think that many young Muslims have a romantic idea of what jihad is instead of understanding the truth behind it?

Yes I do
Muslims need to ensure their community understand what Jihad is and in what circumstances war is acceptable
Allah gives Muslims the right to defend themselves and their home when necessary but being the aggressor is forbidden.

The fact many Muslims are illiterate when it comes to the Qu'ran is worrying to me
 
So then why don't you just say YES?

What, is there something painful in admitting your countries history?
Look, I'll even start the ball rolling.
UK ****ed up many countries in its era as world power and left behind a load of ****. Now your turn.

Allah forbids the death of innocents.

So, basically, you're admitting that those 3,000 Americans did deserve to die on 9/11, because of American intervention in Muslim affairs, prior to 9/11?
 
So, basically, you're admitting that those 3,000 Americans did deserve to die on 9/11, because of American intervention in Muslim affairs, prior to 9/11?


Allah forbids the death of innocents
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Clearly must have missed that.
 
I'm sorry, show me where Muslims in America make murder their bottom line and we'll agree.

OH WAIT!

They don't.

Have a nice day. :2wave:

You had to be sure you referred only to "Muslims in America", right?

But you are still wrong.

"As long ago as January 1999, the Naqshbandi Sufi leader Sheikh Muhammad Hisham Kabbani declared in a State Department Open Forum that Islamic supremacists controlled most mosques in America: "The most dangerous thing that is going on now in these mosques," he said, "that has been sent upon these mosques around the United States - like churches they were established by different organizations and that is ok - but the problem with our communities is the extremist ideology. Because they are very active they took over the mosques; and we can say that they took over more than 80% of the mosques that have been established in the US. And there are more than 3000 mosques in the US. So it means that the methodology or ideology of extremism has been spread to 80% of the Muslim population, but not all of them agree with it."

Terrorism expert Yehudit Barsky affirmed the same thing in 2005, saying that 80% of the mosques in this country "have been radicalized by Saudi money and influence." The Center for Religious Freedom found in 2005 a massive distribution of hateful jihadist and Islamic supremacist material in mosques in this country. And in June 2008 federal investigators found that the Islamic Saudi Academy in Virginia, despite promises to stop teaching such material, was still using books that advocated that apostates from Islam be executed and that it was permissible for Muslims to kill and seize the property of "polytheists."

Jihad Watch
 
So then why don't you just say YES?

What, is there something painful in admitting your countries history?
Look, I'll even start the ball rolling.
UK ****ed up many countries in its era as world power and left behind a load of ****. Now your turn.

Allah forbids the death of innocents.

Pity we don't have the history of Islamic countries. Cutting off limbs, Stoning, genetal mutilation, beheading. etc. etc. etc..

Who could ever think that carrying that ideology by mass murder would engender consequences?

Laila, I think Allah wants you to be a human shield. Go for it.
 
Laila, I think Allah wants you to be a human shield. Go for it.

Are you going to join me?

Suicide is forbidden btw in Islam.
 
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Yes I do
Muslims need to ensure their community understand what Jihad is and in what circumstances war is acceptable
Allah gives Muslims the right to defend themselves and their home when necessary but being the aggressor is forbidden.

The fact many Muslims are illiterate when it comes to the Qu'ran is worrying to me

The propher Mohammad taught his followers to wage jihad until Islam became the dominant religion of the world.

Yes or no?
 
The propher Mohammad taught his followers to wage jihad until Islam became the dominant religion of the world.

Yes or no?

No.

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Are you going to join me?

Suicide is forbidden btw in Islam.

No, I think Islam is a cartoonish rip off of Christianity by a violent illiterate pedophile, :0
 
No, I think Islam is a cartoonish rip off of Christianty by a violant illiterate pedophile, :0

LOL

And Christianity is a **** copy of Judaism. :shrug:
 
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You can't 'selectively interpret' the Koran. Its the uncreated (always existent), directly revealed words of Allah spoken in Allah's own language (Arabic) and its pretty damn clear as to what Allah wants. Which is why when a good, tolerant Muslim gets religion and reads the Koran he drives a rented SUV into a crowd in Chapel Hill for 'jihad'.
 
I am not your amigo.

I know exactly what it means. Do not patronize me.

How many Muslims have to come through here and tell you that is not the practice of the mainstream of Islam? Do you think people like Degreez and Laila are liars? Or perhaps they are ignorant, right? Further, do you really want to do the historic body count of Christianity, too? Oh, but those weren't true Scotsmen -- I mean Christians, right?

Ever heard about that Golden Rule they sometimes mention at church? Do you want the Phelpses to represent Christianity? No? Then don't do the same thing to Islam.

What dead Christians did in the past is of little importance to those alive today.

This ongoing excuse for violence against non Muslims (and each other) is just another example of the insanity, and ignorance, that is Islam. This typically obtuse response from Muslims, and their cretinous supporters, is so desperate in its attempt at rationalization that it requires a thesaurus to explain how backward some people might actually be.
 
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