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President: I’ll ‘make sure we get the job done’

I don't buy that bollocks for a second.

Many Americans are more concerned with Brangelina and the iPhone 4 to actually give a flying **** about any of this crap.

I just don't buy this "America Wants this" and "america wants that"

You do understand that you have like 400 million people right? I'm pretty sure they all don't want the same thing.


Part of the case for Repubs against Clinton is that he was hostage to polls. That he governed by sticking his finger to the air. This one doesn't care a whit about what the people want, or what he even said yesterday, or last hour about a specific topic in the news. What people are seeing in this man, this President is not that he isn't dong things, but rather that he is doing things that the people see as destructive to this nations existence as a free, capitalist, small government nation. And they don't believe that is what they voted for when they voted change.

Problem is that Obama lies constantly, and masks his words in intellectual grey double speak so that at any given moment he can say that he didn't say what he just said.

Should government, and a President govern solely on polling data? No. Should he be smart enough to look at that data and see where he is going off course? Yes. Anything less is to lean rather dictatorial in his method of governing.


j-mac
 
I like the quote from Obama to be honest. It's a very positive quote if you don't twist it to form some kind of attack against him. He's saying he doesn't care about polls, or what the opposition says. He's doing what he thinks is best for the country, which is why I voted for the guy. If it was the other way around you would be saying that the guy has no values, and just does what ever the popular opinion is. Wasn't the big complaint against Kerry was that he was a "flip flopper"

Also the whole country isn't against Obama the way some of you would like to think.
 
Considering the thread title I expected more of this quote from the article...

NEW ORLEANS — President Barack Obama rejected criticism of his response to the Deepwater Horizon oil spill Sunday, saying in an interview airing on “NBC Nightly News” that his administration jumped on the crisis immediately and was determined to hold BP accountable.
Obama was interviewed Sunday afternoon by “Nightly News” anchor and managing editor Brian Williams while on a trip to New Orleans to help commemorate Hurricane Katrina, which made landfall five years ago.
Obama’s predecessor, President George W. Bush, was widely criticized for his administration’s response to Katrina, which killed more than 1,800 people and laid waste to this city and much of the surrounding Gulf Coast.
As BP struggled for weeks to cap the well that began gushing oil into the Gulf of Mexico in April, Obama came under similar pressure from environmental activists who said the federal government should have stepped in earlier and taken greater control — leading, as Williams noted, to critics’ characterization of the oil spill as “Obama’s Katrina.”

Now...I think there ARE fair comparisons to Clintons 28 day response to hurricane Floyd vs Bush's 3 day response to Katrina and the Obama admins response to the oil spill.
 
I like the quote from Obama Bush to be honest. It's a very positive quote if you don't twist it to form some kind of attack against him. He's saying he doesn't care about polls, or what the opposition says. He's doing what he thinks is best for the country, which is why I voted for the guy. If it was the other way around you would be saying that the guy has no values, and just does what ever the popular opinion is. Wasn't the big complaint against Kerry was that he was a "flip flopper"

Also the whole country isn't against Obama Bush the way some of you would like to think.

How far we've come now haven't we? My strike through's above would apply to 2006 and Bush --- yet that's not what the narrative was. The Bush hate was palpable. Bush did what he thought was right for the country as well... Democrats, Progressives, etc... demonized the man. For his faith, for his position on issues, for everything he did. The joke was everything was Bush's fault remember those days?

Now, the criticism swings the other way. Welcome to politics. The problem isn't values, or doing what they think is right --- the problem is if the country "believes" its the right thing. When there's a disconnect between the President / Politicians and the citizenry, the criticism grows, the volume grows and the polls become more prominent. The problem is Bush was actually more like Obama (or vice versa depending on your view) than like Reagan. Obama hasn't changed anything, he's taken Bush and amplified it x4. The economy is the microscope and since Obama is doing everything BUT addressing jobs, and continues to tell us we're on the correct road to recovery while we swirl further down the sewer pipe... the people start to lose confidence. Obama's becoming our own American Bagdhad Bob with the nonsensical rhetoric. It's becoming a joke...
 
How far we've come now haven't we? My strike through's above would apply to 2006 and Bush --- yet that's not what the narrative was. The Bush hate was palpable. Bush did what he thought was right for the country as well... Democrats, Progressives, etc... demonized the man. For his faith, for his position on issues, for everything he did. The joke was everything was Bush's fault remember those days?


They're still upon us...Not a day doesn't go by in here where Bush isn't blamed for something.


j-mac
 
Obama: I

Let them eat, cake.

The logic of the right: he is out of touch because he wants to do what is right for this country. By this logic, the right, who who by contrast is in touch, must want to to do what is wrong for this country. Isn't stupid rhetoric fun?
 
The logic of the right: he is out of touch because he wants to do what is right for this to the country. By this logic, the right, who who by contrast is in touch, must want the President to listento to do what is wrong for this to the country people.

Fixed it for ya.
 
Yes, I said that. I said he should be Bill Clinton. Bingo. :roll:

I said he doesn't CARE what the voters want cause his EGO says he's smarter, wiser and better then all of us.

I still don't see where you get "he doesn't listen to the people" from him not wanting to make decisions based on publicity and election campaigns.
 
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