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Glenn Beck rally will be a measure of the tea party's strength

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pbrauer said:
Do you mean she is the token black conservative there? :2razz:
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You seem to focus a lot on skin color. Is that an attempt to toke hate speech? Why is skin color so important to you in discussing a rally to "Restore Honor" to America?
 
Conservative said:
You seem to focus a lot on skin color. Is that an attempt to toke hate speech? Why is skin color so important to you in discussing a rally to "Restore Honor" to America?
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ezra klein's comrades at journo list have a ready retort
 
Still waiting....

Don't ANY of the Beckerheads have an answer???

How, exactly, is Glenn Beck/the rally going to "restore honor to America?"
 
The Prof said:
senior democrats aren't

born every day, that is

washingtonpost.com

Bush Tax Cuts: Some Top Democrats May Be Rethinking Tax Hike On The Rich

Tax cuts for rich, and middle class, gains steam - Aug. 27, 2010

in the senate, stiffneck nelson, jiltin joe and the gatekeeper's right hand on finance, kent conrad, are on record

i could get you quite a few more links if you'd like

it's been all over the msm
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Yeah, some Dems in Congress are more concerned about their jobs than they are about us, just like most of the Republicans. Those few may be committing political suicide.

However, from your link:

Some progressives are pushing back. In an op-ed this week in the Financial Times, John Podesta of the Center for American Progress and Robert Greenstein of the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, argued that extending the high-income tax breaks even temporarily would send a bad signal to investors worried about rising U.S. debt. And it would leave the task of ending the cuts to the next Congress, which will probably be even more conservative because of anticipated Republican gains in the midterm elections.
 
=mertex;1058948782]Translation = I will not believe anything that is said about Palin, no matter who says it! I've made my mind up, don't confuse me with facts.
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I am not the one having trouble with the facts, the Anchorage Paper has a good article on those so called facts. Further it is all old news that means nothing today. Your hatred for Palin is your right, but it is mine to point out that hatred and its irrelevance today.

That would be more like something you should do, since you tend to believe only those things that fit into your pre-conceived idea of Palin. I really don't much care, I believe if she were to run for office she would have to respond to these allegations and the listeners won't all be a bunch of "Pollyanna Republicans" where unicorns and rainbows follow Ms Palin around.
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If she runs for office then she will have to answer for those "allegations" most of which have been dismissed. I tend to let facts actual rule my beliefs not allegations. Wasn't it liberals who said, we need to wait for all the evidence to be aired before making judgment? Does that only apply to liberal causes or people that liberals support?

Bwahaha! Sounds like the same ole GOP/conservative rhetoric. Anytime someone posts facts about Ms Failin, the GOP's defense is "Why do you hate her," "Are you jealous of her,"? No, I'm not jealous of her and I don't hate her, I just like to tear down false fantasies about her abilities, sincerity and love of country. Ms Palin loves money, why you and others don't see it is probably the result of too much Kool-Aid.
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You sure are spending a lot of time on issues that surfaced back in 2008. Your so called facts amount to allegations which have been dismissed. Not sure what the issue is here other than diversion from what is going on right now? Whether or not Palin loves money is irrelevant as she lives in the U.S. and thus is able to make as much money as she is capable of making. Sounds to me like a little class envy here.

Yeah, I guess nobody knew how badly Bush screwed the country. Of course, Reps/cons are scampering around trying to put all the blame on Obama, because they can't accept the fact that their policies flopped!
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I have no problem blaming Bush but do so with actual facts, not opinions like you are doing. There is much I didn't like about Bush but he had a lot of help from Congress in creating the mess we have today including Obama in that Congress. There is absolutely nothing that Obama has done that I support and results show that I was accurate in not supporting his agenda. Obama has a total Democrat Congress that is implementing his agenda. To say the mess we have today has nothing to do with that agenda is typical liberal spin and a downright lie. Republicans and Conservatives don't have to scamper around to "try" and put the blame on Obama, the results do that work for them. Obama policies have indeed flopped so all you can do is blame Bush.

Maybe you can tell me how someone so stupid and dumb(Bush) was able to fool so many "intelligent"(Democrats) into passing the Iraq Resolution in a Democrat Controlled Senate? Then tell me why that intellectually superior Democrat Party that controlled the Congress in 2007 on didn't do something to stop Bush from destroying the economy all buy himself? Then tell me what Bush did to cause unemployment to rise every month of 2010 and to add 1.4 trillion more to the debt?

By the way this is the Glenn Beck thread and really has nothing to do with Bush, Palin or anyone of the masses attending that rally in D.C. Nice diversion though and thanks for allowing me the opportunity to prove your points wrong.
 
Conservative said:
What we seem to have learned is that religious and political tolerance have no place in the liberal world? Why is it that liberals have a problem with other people exercising their freedom of speech and freedom to promote their belief in God?
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and I have learned that Conservatives absolutley love to jump to conclusions..I never said I have a problem with him excersising his freedom of religion. I just said clearly waiting on a divine being to intervene is an absolute waste of time.
 
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Glinda said:
Don't ANY of the Beckerheads have an answer???

How, exactly, is Glenn Beck/the rally going to "restore honor to America?"
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Why are you asking hard questions? I personally was not aware we were lacking in honor.
 
mertex said:
Yeah, some Dems in Congress are more concerned about their jobs than they are about us, just like most of the Republicans. Those few may be committing political suicide.

However, from your link:

Some progressives are pushing back. In an op-ed this week in the Financial Times, John Podesta of the Center for American Progress and Robert Greenstein of the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, argued that extending the high-income tax breaks even temporarily would send a bad signal to investors worried about rising U.S. debt. And it would leave the task of ending the cuts to the next Congress, which will probably be even more conservative because of anticipated Republican gains in the midterm elections.
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I reject that argument just like I rejected the idea that there is enough money that will be collected from the rich in this country to have any affect on the debt. If and that is a big IF more money does go to the govt. because of those tax increases Congress will find a way to spend it like they always do. Spending causes debt, not tax cuts.
 
Some progressives are pushing back. In an op-ed this week in the Financial Times, John Podesta of the Center for American Progress and Robert Greenstein of the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, argued that extending the high-income tax breaks even temporarily would send a bad signal to investors worried about rising U.S. debt. And it would leave the task of ending the cuts to the next Congress, which will probably be even more conservative because of anticipated Republican gains in the midterm elections.

wow, podesta and greenstein!

now that's a big SURPRISE!

LOL!

as for suicides:

RealClearPolitics - 2010 Election Maps - Senate No Toss Ups

nelson, lieberman and conrad aren't the ones in trouble

RealClearPolitics - 2010 Election Maps - Battle for the House

RealClearPolitics - 2010 Election Maps - Governor No Toss Ups

worry

the knuckle draggers are winning
 
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Glinda said:
Don't ANY of the Beckerheads have an answer???

How, exactly, is Glenn Beck/the rally going to "restore honor to America?"
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What's a Beckerhead?

Is it another juvenile name made up to insult people like kids do in the first grade? If so, that par for the course from the left.
 
it appears some people didn't see what went down in alaska last tuesday...

astonishing
 
Conservative said:
What is the actual breakdown of non believers and those who do not believe in God? Why do liberals have to distort what our Founders actually created?
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Aren't non-believers and those who do not believe in God the same? Jes askin?

Why do Cons have to insist that our Founding Fathers wanted a theocracy?

They were running away from religious persecution, why would they want to start another government dictated by religion.

They clearly stated that they did not want that in the Treaty at Tripoly.

I believe in God, but I don't believe on mandating what I consider wrong because of my religion to others of a different religion. Neither do I support withholding of Constitutional rights to other tax-paying Americans just because they believe differently.
 
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Grim17 said:
What's a Beckerhead?

Is it another juvenile name made up to insult people like kids do in the first grade? If so, that par for the course from the left.
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You mean like all the stupid names the right comes up with for Obama?
 
The Prof said:
it appears some people didn't see what went down in alaska last tuesday...

astonishing
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not surpising, I mean they did elect a completely unqualified moron for governor a couple years ago.
 
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Grim17 said:
Is it another juvenile name made up to insult people like kids do in the first grade?
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yes, we ARE seeing quite the exhibition of name calling from some quarters in this thread

it's truly amazing, such low standards some hold for themselves

i mean, in front of people, and all
 
pbrauer said:
The crime of it all, I turned on CNN. :2razz:
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I clicked there too. They had a split screen of both rallys briefly. Then I clicked back to C-Span where they showed it in it's entirety. You're in luck though. They will run both again tonight and Monday during prime time. Maybe you can catch them then.
I preferred watching live , but that's just me. I guess you felt there was no need to watch because you knew what it was going to be.
 
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Harry Guerrilla said:
How is Beck restoring honor to America?
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By bringing all races of people to D.C. on their own to participate in a patriotic rally honoring the fallen and honoring the liberties and freedom we have. Looks like a very successful rally and unlike another poster here I saw a lot of "black faces" on the stage and I saw the incredible tribute to America that MLK would have been proud of.
 
mertex said:
Aren't non-believers and those who do not believe in God the same? Jes askin?

Why do Cons have to insist that our Founding Fathers wanted a theocracy?

They were running away from religious persecution, why would they want to start another government dictated by religion.

They clearly stated that they did not want that in the Treaty at Tripoly.

I believe in God, but I don't believe on mandating what I consider wrong because of my religion to others of a different religion. Neither do I support withholding of Constitutional rights to other tax-paying Americans just because they believe differently.
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History supports my position but if you want to start another thread then do so. Like far too many it is FREEDOM OF RELIGION, not Freedom FROM Religion. Our Founders put God into the founding of this nation and if they didn't respect religion that never would have happened.
 
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Conservative said:
By bringing all races of people to D.C. on their own to participate in a patriotic rally honoring the fallen and honoring the liberties and freedom we have. Looks like a very successful rally and unlike another poster here I saw a lot of "black faces" on the stage and I saw the incredible tribute to America that MLK would have been proud of.
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but where did the honour go for it to have to be restored?
 
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spud_meister said:
You mean like all the stupid names the right comes up with for Obama?
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No way, no how, nobama.

Anyways I will ask as some others did, how is this restoring honor in America? What I saw was them giving thanks to the troops, telling people they weren't grateful enough of the troops, a gospel, and telling people they weren't religious enough.

This is just my opinion, but to restore honor in America would to have an honest conversation with everyone and to truly stand up for religious freedom and human rights rather than tell people what their religious freedoms and rights ought to be.
 
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