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Glenn Beck rally will be a measure of the tea party's strength

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Glinda said:
1. Honor was restored to America when we got rid of the Bush/Cheney/et al war-mongers.

2. How, exactly, is Glenn Beck (who'll be stroking his ego and filling his pockets on the anniversary of MLK's most memorable and influential speech, at the same place MLK gave that speech) going to "restore honor to America?" Specifics, please.

(This should be good. :popcorn2: )



MLK would be mortified by the content of this particular rodeo-clown's character.
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If you won't even watch how do you know MLK wouldn't approve?
 
pbrauer said:
He may not be profiting, but At the bottom of the his website:

In small print:

"All contributions made to the Special Operations Warrior Foundation (SOWF) will first be applied to the costs of the Restoring Honor Rally taking place on August 28, 2010. All contributions in excess of these costs will then be retained by the SOWF."

Restoring Honor - 8.28.10
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And that is a problem because?
 
Grant said:
After reading a few posts of yours it's clear you really have no idea what it mght mean, and most likely never will.
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Might mean... is that what you meant?

You don't plan an event with an ambiguous meaning!

Face it, Beckie is just makin' this **** up as he goes. This event is about the Teabrains seeming more tolerant and less like a bunch or racist fringe-right a-holes.
 
Barbbtx said:
All these days you've been talking about what the rally is going to be. Now it's on and you're not watching? figures
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The crime of it all, I turned on CNN. :2razz:
 
pbrauer said:
He may not be profiting, but At the bottom of the his website:

In small print:

"All contributions made to the Special Operations Warrior Foundation (SOWF) will first be applied to the costs of the Restoring Honor Rally taking place on August 28, 2010. All contributions in excess of these costs will then be retained by the SOWF."

Restoring Honor - 8.28.10
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So? They surpassed that long ago and today thousands upon thousands took out their cell phones and donated $10 each.
 
Hugh_Akston said:
Did we get rid of Congress at the same time? Because if we did, I must have missed that.
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Did Congress urge and encourage and make crap up to get Bush/Cheney/et al to invade and occupy Iraq, or was it the other way around? :roll:

Hugh_Akston said:
Glenn Beck isn't making a dollar off this rally.
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Yeah, the guy's taken a vow of poverty in order to help others; Beck does his rodeo-clown routine for FREE. :doh

Hugh_Akston said:
Money that was donated by individuals funded this. Anything that was left over went directly to the Special Operations Warriors Fund.
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Mmm-hmm.. :roll:

The foundation's primary function, according to its Web site, is to provide academic scholarships to the children of special operations soldiers killed in action or training.

It's not clear how much money the foundation might receive. A footnote on the rally's Web page explains that donations will go first toward the cost of the event. Anything left over will then be kept by the foundation.

Surviving children of special operations soldiers who die in combat or training are automatically eligible for full post-secondary scholarships through the Special Operations Warrior Foundation, according to the group's 2009 tax return. To date, 160 children of fallen soldiers have graduated from college with help from the foundation.
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Impressive stats. :roll: I wonder how much of his own money he's donated to this "fund?" Beyond this, does it not concern any of you Beckies that this douche is using charitable donations to pay for his Glenn Back fan club rally?

Also, I've asked several times and thus far, not ONE of you Beckerheads has been able to provide an answer. Maybe you could tackle the burning question:

How, exactly, is Glenn Beck/the rally going to "restore honor to America?" Specifics, please.
 
pbrauer said:
He may not be profiting, but At the bottom of the his website:

In small print:

"All contributions made to the Special Operations Warrior Foundation (SOWF) will first be applied to the costs of the Restoring Honor Rally taking place on August 28, 2010. All contributions in excess of these costs will then be retained by the SOWF."

Restoring Honor - 8.28.10
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That means that they are gonna keep the money in their treasury so they can use it for other events that need money. I know it's hard to imagine saving money, but it is possible... It's a nonprofit organization so they are supposed to spend it on products that they buy and other things and are not intended for personal expenses. So before you start thinking "contributions in excess" = profits, they are a non-profit organization and are planning on using all those "contributions in excess" for other projects they have...
 
Conservative said:
And that is a problem because?
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It's not a problem if it made clear to all that donate, that this is the situation. I don't believe most charity events are handled this way.
 
pbrauer said:
Watching this on CNN the only black face I saw was the CNN reporter.
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That isn't totally true there were a few specks of black in the crowd watch it on C-SPAN you get a better idea.
 
do you remember when those representative members of the "professional left" whom gibbs suggested should be drug tested offered up as a means to deflect the crescendo of criticism obama took for his relationship with the reverand wright and his gd church of chickens roosting (which spiritual mentor, from whom obama took the title for his first audacious book, was soon after tossed under the cruel wheels of the campaign bus) by picking a "random" conservative---say, karl rove or fred barnes---and labeling him a racist?

Hugh Hewitt: JournoList members silent on slander | Washington Examiner

it all comes down to character
 
Conservative said:
After watching the rally, you tell me?
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Sorry, but I don't even watch the rodeo clowns when I'm at a rodeo.

Conservative said:
What economic benefit is Glenn Beck getting from this rally? I keep waiting for any liberal to give actual facts instead of opinions.
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He's putting on a massive, nationally televised, self-promotional free-for-all and paying for it with charitable donations.

Sheesh. Take off the blinders. :roll:
 
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Glinda said:
Did Congress urge and encourage and make crap up to get Bush/Cheney/et al to invade and occupy Iraq, or was it the other way around? :roll:



Yeah, the guy's taken a vow of poverty in order to help others; Beck does his rodeo-clown routine for FREE. :doh



Mmm-hmm.. :roll:



Impressive stats. :roll: I wonder how much of his own money he's donated to this "fund?" Beyond this, does it not concern any of you Beckies that this douche is using charitable donations to pay for his Glenn Back fan club rally?

Also, I've asked several times and thus far, not ONE of you Beckerheads has been able to provide an answer. Maybe you could tackle the burning question:

How, exactly, is Glenn Beck/the rally going to "restore honor to America?" Specifics, please.
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Wow, nice diversion, Democrats controlled the Senate and still allowed passage of the war resolution? Over and over I have posted actual quotes of Democrats leading up to that vote some of which were made prior to 2001 when Bush took office. Lest you forget that the Iraq Liberation act was signed by Bill Clinton. It really is a waste of time posting all those quotes again because obviously the guy liberals called dumb and stupid was able to fool all those Democrats that voted for the resolution.

By the way, not that it matters but I had three family members serve in Iraq and all came back with the same story, it was the right thing to do. Reliving it now is simply a diversion from the disaster in the WH.

Doesn't seem to matter to libeals what facts are presented. As for the "fund" why don't you do some research and find out for yourself what Beck has given. You might ask Marcus Luttrell what Beck has done for him but no, you have to speculate negatively.

I don't see how thousands of Americans paying their own way to D.C. to participate in a rally to "Restore Honor" is a bad thing. Maybe you should try and answer your own question, how does that fact hurt?
 
MCS117 said:
That means that they are gonna keep the money in their treasury so they can use it for other events that need money. I know it's hard to imagine saving money, but it is possible... It's a nonprofit organization so they are supposed to spend it on products that they buy and other things and are not intended for personal expenses. So before you start thinking "contributions in excess" = profits, they are a non-profit organization and are planning on using all those "contributions in excess" for other projects they have...
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Beck's company, Mercury Radio Arts?, is a non-profit organization?
 
Glinda said:
Sorry, but I don't even watch the rodeo clowns when I'm at a rodeo.



He's putting on a massive, nationally televised, self-promotional free-for-all and paying for it with charitable donations.


Sheesh. Take off the blinders. :roll:
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So you didn't watch but are an expert on the rally? Got it!

Nationally televised? What station or network televised the rally? I have been checking Fox News all day and haven't seen any live coverage. It must be my cable provider, right?

By the way are you not going to tell the people that attended that rally what they can and cannot spend their money on?
 
The Prof said:
do you remember when those representative members of the "professional left" whom gibbs suggested should be drug tested offered up as a means to deflect the crescendo of criticism obama took for his relationship with the reverand wright and his gd church of chickens roosting (which spiritual mentor, from whom obama took the title for his first audacious book, was soon after tossed under the cruel wheels of the campaign bus) by picking a "random" conservative---say, karl rove or fred barnes---and labeling him a racist?

Hugh Hewitt: JournoList members silent on slander | Washington Examiner

it all comes down to character
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The topic is the Glenn Beck rally...
 
Harshaw said:
Apparently, actually watching the thing/person you're criticizing isn't required.
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evidently

and reading a law before SUING one of our 50 is not required of an ag, either

go figure
 
So I am assuming it is over or wrapping up as they are singing Amazing Grace. Here is my quick take on it.

It was largely a giant stunt by Beck and company, however it isn't lost on me that for the most part he kept political specifics out of it, it seems to be more of a rallying cry for the tea party movement. I doubt that Beck directly profited from it and I'm fine with honoring troops, I'm not fine with the idea that this rally was created to tell people they don't honor troops enough, which couldn't be further from the truth.

I also don't like the idea that he took the role of preacher while speaking and was probably essentially telling people what they already knew, nor his indirect ways of suggesting religion plays a far bigger role in our country than it actually does. Religion has an important role and a place, but indirectly suggesting it was a big part of why our forefathers did the things they did, and continuously talked about "the enemy" (what is this enemy?) I think if nothing else, this rally was used as a way to rally up people with less complicated views on society and politics and to energize the various bases that Beck, Palin, etc cater too.
 
pbrauer said:
Beck's company, Mercury Radio Arts?, is a non-profit organization?
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My, my, the shame of it all! Don't know that for a fact but even if it is, so what? Charitable organizations are subject of IRS rules and are subject to audit. Let me know when you find something they did wrong?
 
JohnWOlin said:
So I am assuming it is over or wrapping up as they are singing Amazing Grace. Here is my quick take on it.

It was largely a giant stunt by Beck and company, however it isn't lost on me that for the most part he kept political specifics out of it, it seems to be more of a rallying cry for the tea party movement. I doubt that Beck directly profited from it and I'm fine with honoring troops, I'm not fine with the idea that this rally was created to tell people they don't honor troops enough, which couldn't be further from the truth.

I also don't like the idea that he took the role of preacher while speaking and was probably essentially telling people what they already knew, nor his indirect ways of suggesting religion plays a far bigger role in our country than it actually does. Religion has an important role and a place, but indirectly suggesting it was a big part of why our forefathers did the things they did, and continuously talked about "the enemy" (what is this enemy?) I think if nothing else, this rally was used as a way to rally up people with less complicated views on society and politics and to energize the various bases that Beck, Palin, etc cater too.
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You are certainly entitled to your opinion and I disagree with much of it.
 
texmaster said:
How is it a political stunt? Be specific
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The speakers include representatives from the Special Operations Warrior Foundation, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, and Dr. Alveda King.

Conservatives all.
 
texmaster said:
Yes pbrauer. Thats why MLK's neice is there :roll:
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Do you mean she is the token black conservative there? :2razz:

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A conservative who had two abortions and now wants to make abortion the new civil rights movement.
 
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Conservative said:
You are certainly entitled to your opinion and I disagree with much of it.
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Fair enough, we will see the implications of the rally in the coming weeks. I'm sure and see how Beck uses it for his own personal gain. To really summarize what I just posted, I'm indifferent on the entire rally and it actually fit about where I thought it would.
 
Conservative said:
Nice distortion of the actual record.
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Translation = I will not believe anything that is said about Palin, no matter who says it! I've made my mind up, don't confuse me with facts.

Seems the Anchorage Paper disagrees, did you send all this to them and tell them how wrong they were?
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That would be more like something you should do, since you tend to believe only those things that fit into your pre-conceived idea of Palin. I really don't much care, I believe if she were to run for office she would have to respond to these allegations and the listeners won't all be a bunch of "Pollyanna Republicans" where unicorns and rainbows follow Ms Palin around.

As for Wasilla, apparently you don't understand how that debt was created and how it is being funded. Voters decided it was a worthwhile project and voted to support it and fund it. Most of this is garbage and old news. So much hatred for a former politician. Sounds like a lot of jealousy to me.
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Bwahaha! Sounds like the same ole GOP/conservative rhetoric. Anytime someone posts facts about Ms Failin, the GOP's defense is "Why do you hate her," "Are you jealous of her,"? No, I'm not jealous of her and I don't hate her, I just like to tear down false fantasies about her abilities, sincerity and love of country. Ms Palin loves money, why you and others don't see it is probably the result of too much Kool-Aid.

By the way, 16 million unemployed Americans, 3 trillion added to the debt, rising unemployment each month in 2010, and declining GDP is a record to run from thus the diversion.
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Yeah, I guess nobody knew how badly Bush screwed the country. Of course, Reps/cons are scampering around trying to put all the blame on Obama, because they can't accept the fact that their policies flopped!
 
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