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Glenn Beck rally will be a measure of the tea party's strength

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[/QUOTE]I've seen bits and pieces of the speeches, still trying to figure out the point of the rally I guess we will see in the next day or so but had it been bi-partisan and non political then why couldn't they have done this at a county fair or oh I dunno, without a bunch of tea party soldiers?[/QUOTE]

Not underdstanding the point of the rally doesn't seem to have discouraged you from offering an opinion. And who are these "tea party soldiers"?



[/QUOTE]I keep hearing this entertainer bit, if he were an entertainer I think he would oh I dunno, say something entertaining and not try to tell people how they should be thinking wouldn't you say?[/QUOTE]

There is always the possibility that people can be entertained while learning something. The two are not mutually exclusive.
 
I posted the Anchorage paper review of the Palin ethics violations. Why is there a disconnect between what was reported there and what you posted? I suggest you stop reading leftwing sites unless you don't care about credibility.
Don't know - maybe your post was from an earlier date? Maybe you only believe what goes along with your pre-formed opinion? Maybe you believe Palin so much that even when she lies about what happened to her "ethic's cases" you still believe her?

Here's what the Anchorage paper had to say on Oct 13, 2008! I'll post an excerpt, you can read the rest here:

Palin vindicated?: Gov. Palin - Commentary | adn.com

Palin vindicated?
Governor offers Orwellian spin
Published: October 13th, 2008 10:17 PM

Sarah Palin's reaction to the Legislature's Troopergate report is an embarrassment to Alaskans and the nation.

She claims the report "vindicates" her. She said that the investigation found "no unlawful or unethical activity on my part."

Her response is either astoundingly ignorant or downright Orwellian.

Page 8, Finding Number One of the report says: "I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act."

In plain English, she did something "unlawful." She broke the state ethics law.

Perhaps Gov. Palin has been too busy to actually read the Troopergate report. Perhaps she is relying on briefings from McCain campaign spinmeisters.

That's the charitable interpretation.

Because if she had actually read it, she couldn't claim "vindication" with a straight face.

I voted for Bush twice because the alternative made me sick, Gore and Kerry.
There you go! We know what Bush did.
I have no problem with the results actually generated but I do have a problem with the misrepresentaion of those results. Facts seem to always get in the way of personal opinions many of whom never do any research and buy the rhetoric of others.
Translation = Bush did not put the country in the toilet. I don't believe it, and no one can make me believe it. Bush was a wonderful President and I would have voted for him a third time! The country is in the toilet because of Clinton and Obama.

I would love to hear those so called lies and then compare them to the real lies of this Administration. Apparently actual results don't matter so it is better to focus on those that really don't matter. Give me specific lies that anyone else has claimed that trump these,

"I inherited a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit",
"The economic stimulus plan will keep unemployment from exceeding 8%,
"I will halve the deficit by the end of my first term",
"The stimulus plan has created or saved 3.5 million jobs",
"economic growth will exceed 4% this year"
"the healthcare bill will cut the deficit"

Those aren't lies, they are predictions, not always come out as planned, however, the Stimulus did create jobs, even the brain dead Republicans in Congress have admitted it. So, who is lying now?

Boehner highlighted the Obama administration’s recent order that the Ohio Department of Transportation redirect $57 million to shovel-ready projects. Boehner admitted that such stimulus projects do, in fact, “create much-needed jobs“:

Think Progress » Boehner admits that stimulus will ‘create much-needed jobs.’

GOP lawmakers privately admit stimulus created jobs
Washington Times: GOP lawmakers privately admit stimulus created jobs

And, let's not forget your hero!
How about Bush's "Mission Accomplished"? Bush said that back in 2003. Did you know that even as our troops are being pulled out, Iraq is getting bombed and many are dying and they still don't have a concrete democracy? How about "Iraq has WMDs" and "We don't torture terror suspects". Here, I don't have the time and energy to post all Bush's lies - but here is a site where you can see some!
List of George W. Bush Lies

I could go on but what's the use?
Yes, you could go on, all the time ignoring the lies of your party and your party heroes. HCR hasn't even been implemented. Obama has only been in office a little over 18 months, your bozo had 8 years to submerge us, but you want a miracle recovery?
Now those are real lies that affect your pocket book. Trump those with lies of non elected officials

But the real lies of scumbags such as Palin do affect our pocketbook. Doesn't she also espouse extending the tax cuts to the wealthy? Republicans that are not extremely wealthy are fools to think that cutting the taxes of the very rich is going to benefit them, but, fools are born every day. And as for Palin not affecting our pocket books, why don't you tell that to the people of Wasilla?


Palin leaves town with $20 million in debt
Submitted by Justin on Tue, 2008/09/02 - 10:46am
Palin leaves town with $20 million in debt | KnoxViews
 
Watching this on CNN the only black face I saw was the CNN reporter.

So CNN covered the rally? Interesting, or did you actually watch the live feed I posted? How do you know how many "black" faces were there and does it really matter? What is it about restoring honor that bothers you? Wasn't it you on another thread talking about Patriotism? Oh, the horror of it all, Pledge of Allegiance, Star Spangled Banner, and envoking God! These evil people!!
 
Wow and Alveda King is ridiculous. So far what I gather this thing is about these people think we don't honor the troops (which we do), and apparently keeping gays from marrying, and putting prayer back in school. I dunno, it doesn't seem to have one focal point.

Alveda King is a Conservative woman who has had two abortions and now would deny that proceedure for other women.
 
LOL, nothing non partisan about your post as well as nothing accurate as actual facts prove. Don't blame you from diverting to the Bush/Cheney Adminstration as the current Administration is a failure, complete and utter. Facts will never get in the way of your personal opinion. Noticed that you never offer any facts to back up your claim. That war mongering President got a resolution through a Democrat controlled Senate on a vote that I believe was 76-23. then of course he had a Democrat controlled Congress from 2007-2008 which of course apparently you believe had no power.

Your opinion regarding what MLK would think of this rally is just that, an opinion. Mine differs in that I believe the man would be proud of all those Americans showing up on the site where he gave his famous speech and showed their love and respect for the country. Hope, Faith, and Charity is being promoted and isn't that what MLK was all about? Wasn't he also about "Restoring Honor?"

I believe your hatred for GW Bush is clouding your judgment.

By the way, I don't see a lot of liberals here posting on the rally in D.C. so apparently Beck is doing something right. I assure you if it was negative they would be all over the blogs this morning. What is it, no signs? No political rhetoric? No protestors? No Rowdy behavior? How can that be?

How, exactly, is Glenn Beck (who'll be stroking his ego and filling his pockets on the anniversary of MLK's most memorable and influential speech, at the same place MLK gave that speech) going to "restore honor to America?" Specifics, please.
 
Don't know - maybe your post was from an earlier date? Maybe you only believe what goes along with your pre-formed opinion? Maybe you believe Palin so much that even when she lies about what happened to her "ethic's cases" you still believe her?

Here's what the Anchorage paper had to say on Oct 13, 2008! I'll post an excerpt, you can read the rest here:

Palin vindicated?: Gov. Palin - Commentary | adn.com

Palin vindicated?
Governor offers Orwellian spin
Published: October 13th, 2008 10:17 PM

Sarah Palin's reaction to the Legislature's Troopergate report is an embarrassment to Alaskans and the nation.

She claims the report "vindicates" her. She said that the investigation found "no unlawful or unethical activity on my part."

Her response is either astoundingly ignorant or downright Orwellian.

Page 8, Finding Number One of the report says: "I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act."

In plain English, she did something "unlawful." She broke the state ethics law.

Perhaps Gov. Palin has been too busy to actually read the Troopergate report. Perhaps she is relying on briefings from McCain campaign spinmeisters.

That's the charitable interpretation.

Because if she had actually read it, she couldn't claim "vindication" with a straight face.


There you go! We know what Bush did.

Translation = Bush did not put the country in the toilet. I don't believe it, and no one can make me believe it. Bush was a wonderful President and I would have voted for him a third time! The country is in the toilet because of Clinton and Obama.



Those aren't lies, they are predictions, not always come out as planned, however, the Stimulus did create jobs, even the brain dead Republicans in Congress have admitted it. So, who is lying now?

Boehner highlighted the Obama administration’s recent order that the Ohio Department of Transportation redirect $57 million to shovel-ready projects. Boehner admitted that such stimulus projects do, in fact, “create much-needed jobs“:

Think Progress » Boehner admits that stimulus will ‘create much-needed jobs.’

GOP lawmakers privately admit stimulus created jobs
Washington Times: GOP lawmakers privately admit stimulus created jobs

And, let's not forget your hero!
How about Bush's "Mission Accomplished"? Bush said that back in 2003. Did you know that even as our troops are being pulled out, Iraq is getting bombed and many are dying and they still don't have a concrete democracy? How about "Iraq has WMDs" and "We don't torture terror suspects". Here, I don't have the time and energy to post all Bush's lies - but here is a site where you can see some!
List of George W. Bush Lies

Yes, you could go on, all the time ignoring the lies of your party and your party heroes. HCR hasn't even been implemented. Obama has only been in office a little over 18 months, your bozo had 8 years to submerge us, but you want a miracle recovery?


But the real lies of scumbags such as Palin do affect our pocketbook. Doesn't she also espouse extending the tax cuts to the wealthy? Republicans that are not extremely wealthy are fools to think that cutting the taxes of the very rich is going to benefit them, but, fools are born every day. And as for Palin not affecting our pocket books, why don't you tell that to the people of Wasilla?


Palin leaves town with $20 million in debt
Submitted by Justin on Tue, 2008/09/02 - 10:46am
Palin leaves town with $20 million in debt | KnoxViews

Nice distortion of the actual record. Seems the Anchorage Paper disagrees, did you send all this to them and tell them how wrong they were? As for Wasilla, apparently you don't understand how that debt was created and how it is being funded. Voters decided it was a worthwhile project and voted to support it and fund it. Most of this is garbage and old news. So much hatred for a former politician. Sounds like a lot of jealousy to me.

By the way, 16 million unemployed Americans, 3 trillion added to the debt, rising unemployment each month in 2010, and declining GDP is a record to run from thus the diversion.
 
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Why does it seem that the Tea Party still doesn't realize the U.S.A. is a secular country, which is what makes this country so great!. Now they say we need to get this country back to it's roots of faith. 225 years ago America was a melting pot of religions and it is still that today. Beck says today is the day we go back to God but statistics show otherwise as the amount of Non-Believers continues to rise at a relatively quick pace.
 
How, exactly, is Glenn Beck (who'll be stroking his ego and filling his pockets on the anniversary of MLK's most memorable and influential speech, at the same place MLK gave that speech) going to "restore honor to America?" Specifics, please.

After watching the rally, you tell me? As Beck stated many times, honor isn't a black or white issue, it is an American issue. What is it exactly about the context of the rally that bothers you, the fact that there is no hatred, no political speeches, honoring our fallen, no signs, no evidence of drugs, and a massive crowd? Since when was Martin Luther King the exclusive property of African Americans or Abraham Lincoln property of the White Americans?

What economic benefit is Glenn Beck getting from this rally? I keep waiting for any liberal to give actual facts instead of opinions.
 
Doesn't she also espouse extending the tax cuts to the wealthy? Republicans that are not extremely wealthy are fools to think that cutting the taxes of the very rich is going to benefit them, but, fools are born every day.

senior democrats aren't

born every day, that is

washingtonpost.com

Bush Tax Cuts: Some Top Democrats May Be Rethinking Tax Hike On The Rich

Tax cuts for rich, and middle class, gains steam - Aug. 27, 2010

in the senate, stiffneck nelson, jiltin joe and the gatekeeper's right hand on finance, kent conrad, are on record

i could get you quite a few more links if you'd like

it's been all over the msm
 
Why does it seem that the Tea Party still doesn't realize the U.S.A. is a secular country, which is what makes this country so great!. Now they say we need to get this country back to it's roots of faith. 225 years ago America was a melting pot of religions and it is still that today. Beck says today is the day we go back to God but statistics show otherwise as the amount of Non-Believers continues to rise at a relatively quick pace.

What is the actual breakdown of non believers and those who do not believe in God? Why do liberals have to distort what our Founders actually created?
 
"Firm reliance on divine intervention", Have we not yet learned that this whole prayer and faith thing just does not get things done?
 
it always all comes down to character
 
So CNN covered the rally? Interesting, or did you actually watch the live feed I posted? How do you know how many "black" faces were there and does it really matter?
CNN briefly covered both Shapton and Beck's rallies, but they covered Bec's most. I didn't say I knew how many black faces there were, I said the only one I saw was the CNN reporter at the event. Does it matter? Not really, but interesting to say the least since Beck picked the exact date and place MLK gave his speech. And that Beck says he is reclaiming the Civil Rights movement.

What is it about restoring honor that bothers you? Wasn't it you on another thread talking about Patriotism? Oh, the horror of it all, Pledge of Allegiance, Star Spangled Banner, and envoking God! These evil people!!
What honor is being restored? Getting back to white presidents?
 
"Firm reliance on divine intervention", Have we not yet learned that this whole prayer and faith thing just does not get things done?

Tell that to Martin Luther Ling
 
"Firm reliance on divine intervention", Have we not yet learned that this whole prayer and faith thing just does not get things done?

What we seem to have learned is that religious and political tolerance have no place in the liberal world? Why is it that liberals have a problem with other people exercising their freedom of speech and freedom to promote their belief in God?
 
CNN briefly covered both Shapton and Beck's rallies, but they covered Bec's most. I didn't say I knew how many black faces there were, I said the only one I saw was the CNN reporter at the event. Does it matter? Not really, but interesting to say the least since Beck picked the exact date and place MLK gave his speech. And that Beck says he is reclaiming the Civil Rights movement.


What honor is being restored? Getting back to white presidents?

Isn't civil rights an American issue regardless of race? Don't we have a black President now and what does the color of their skin have to do with civil rights?
 
CNN briefly covered both Shapton and Beck's rallies, but they covered Bec's most. I didn't say I knew how many black faces there were, I said the only one I saw was the CNN reporter at the event. Does it matter? Not really, but interesting to say the least since Beck picked the exact date and place MLK gave his speech. And that Beck says he is reclaiming the Civil Rights movement.


What honor is being restored? Getting back to white presidents?

All these days you've been talking about what the rally is going to be. Now it's on and you're not watching? figures
 
What economic benefit is Glenn Beck getting from this rally? I keep waiting for any liberal to give actual facts instead of opinions.
He may not be profiting, but At the bottom of the his website:

In small print:

"All contributions made to the Special Operations Warrior Foundation (SOWF) will first be applied to the costs of the Restoring Honor Rally taking place on August 28, 2010. All contributions in excess of these costs will then be retained by the SOWF."

Restoring Honor - 8.28.10
 
All these days you've been talking about what the rally is going to be. Now it's on and you're not watching? figures

Apparently, actually watching the thing/person you're criticizing isn't required.
 
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