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The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

Yes as part of an abrahamic faith and worshipper of God, you too qualify under the broader term, 'muslim' according to Islam.

Pascal's wager baby! If you are a Christian, you killed two birds with one stone :2razz:
 
According to the faith of 1.5 billion he was born a Muslim.

Except that isn't the case, considering one of those 1.5 billion came on here and told you no, it isn't what they believe.
 
Ok, I'm in.....Here's an honest question.

Obama a Muslim or not...How does this relate as a State of the World and Threat intelligence. What does this mean to the world that is constantly weighing info and developing stances and/or strategies that will benefit/protect them on the world political stage????
 
Ok, I'm in.....Here's an honest question.

Obama a Muslim or not...How does this relate as a State of the World and Threat intelligence. What does this mean to the world that is constantly weighing info and developing stances and/or strategies that will benefit/protect them on the world political stage????

What does that have to do with this thread?

The state of the world and threat intelligence can be discussed elsewhere.
 
Ok, I'm in.....Here's an honest question.

Obama a Muslim or not...How does this relate as a State of the World and Threat intelligence. What does this mean to the world that is constantly weighing info and developing stances and/or strategies that will benefit/protect them on the world political stage????

Some have argued that if he is a Muslim, that would hamper his abilities in being tough on terrorism and in making the right decisions in the middle east, as well as making him biased toward Israel. For the record I don't think he's a Muslim.
 
Some have argued that if he is a Muslim, that would hamper his abilities in being tough on terrorism and in making the right decisions in the middle east, as well as making him biased toward Israel. For the record I don't think he's a Muslim.

A well reasoned response, Jun
 
While many American believe Barrack Obama to be a Muslim that belief is even stronger in the Muslim world.

My Muslim President Obama - Forbes.com

and often for very good reasons

Was Barack Obama a Muslim? :: Daniel Pipes

Much of Barrack Obama's past has been shrouded in mystery, including his educational years in the United States where his friends of the day have been discouraged in speaking out.

The bottom line is that most people don't probably care whether he is Muslim or not. the more important issue is his obvious incompetence as President of the United States. that is why he will only serve a single term and his Islamic background will not be a factor.
 
It's hard to believe that on average the right wing of America isn't xenophobic and highly bigoted when they take any and every chance they can to say 'OH MAH GAWZ OBAMA'Z A MUSLEM!!!!!!!!!! ELEVENTY ONE ONE!!!!!!'
 
We're not a Christian Nation. We're a secular nation. And welcome to the no Scottsman argument.

You might not be a believer yourself, Hatuey , and you can certainly believe whatever you want, but the United States was inspired by and founded on Christian principles and philosophies. That should be self evident. If it wasn't there would be no Bill of Rights, Constitution, and all that goes with it. That is what makes the US so different from other nations in the world. It wasn't just a fluke of nature.
 
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Line 2 on the form says "Tempat dan tanggal lahir" which translated into English means "Place of birth and date". It is filled out "Honolulu ?-?-61" I can't quite make out the date.


Indonesian Translation

The birthers were debunked by their own evidence....
Meet President 'Barry Soetoro'

Of course it doesn't really matter now where he was born, or whether he is a Muslim or not. That's just a little game.

The important point is that the man in incompetent and should never have been elected as president. I feel certain his handlers were as surprised as anyone when he won.

The American people will have to wait for over two years to correct this horrific blunder. That's the important bit.
 
Of course it doesn't really matter now where he was born, or whether he is a Muslim or not. That's just a little game.

The important point is that the man in incompetent and should never have been elected as president. I feel certain his handlers were as surprised as anyone when he won.

The American people will have to wait for over two years to correct this horrific blunder. That's the important bit.
No, the important point to remember is that Obama was democratically elected by a majority and the losers don't want to recognize that fact. So either you accept our system of government or you don't and apparently you don't.
 
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No, the important point to remember is that Obama was democratically elected by a majority and the losers don't want to recognize that fact. So either you accept our system of government or you don't and apparently you don't.

I'm certainly not arguing that Obama wasn't legally elected, Moot, though this is what the x-rated Leftists say about George Bush. I'm just saying that, like Jimmy Carter, the man is clearly an incompetent.

And there are many who agree. World Sees Obama as Incompetent and Amateur | Politics
 
I'm certainly not arguing that Obama wasn't legally elected, Moot, though this is what the x-rated Leftists say about George Bush. I'm just saying that, like Jimmy Carter, the man is clearly an incompetent.

And there are many who agree. World Sees Obama as Incompetent and Amateur | Politics

It's true, Obama is not quite the leader I had hoped for either. But I don't think he deserves 3/4 of the criticism heaped on him, especially when the only other choice we had was McCain. So the main consolation I have is that McCain would have been 100x worse and much more incompetant than Obama.
 
It's true, Obama is not quite the leader I had hoped for either. But I don't think he deserves 3/4 of the criticism heaped on him, especially when the only other choice we had was McCain. So the main consolation I have is that McCain would have been 100x worse and much more incompetant than Obama.

Perhaps, Moot, but there is no evidence to support this theory.

You're going with your heart rather than your head, and I suspect that's what got BHO elected in the first place.
 
No, the important point to remember is that Obama was democratically elected by a majority and the losers don't want to recognize that fact. So either you accept our system of government or you don't and apparently you don't.

Oh come on now are you saying that anyone who thinks Obama is incompetent, hates democracy?
 
Perhaps, Moot, but there is no evidence to support this theory.

You're going with your heart rather than your head, and I suspect that's what got BHO elected in the first place.
My head told me not to vote for McCain for oh so many, many reasons and that is exactly what I did. Now you can leave it at that or you can not use your head and continue to prove what a sore loser you are.
 
Line 2 on the form says "Tempat dan tanggal lahir" which translated into English means "Place of birth and date". It is filled out "Honolulu ?-?-61" I can't quite make out the date.

Making the huge assumption that Obama was born in Honolulu, what does that have to do with the fact that his father was muslim, he was given a muslim name, he was raised by his stepfather as a muslim, he prayed in a mosque as a muslim, and he dislikes America like any good Indonesian muslim?

Last time I checked, PLACE of birth doesn't confer religion, unless you're lucky enough to have poor minority parents who chose to sleep in cattle feeding equipment.
 
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Of course it doesn't really matter now where he was born, or whether he is a Muslim or not. That's just a little game.

The important point is that the man in incompetent and should never have been elected as president. I feel certain his handlers were as surprised as anyone when he won.

The American people will have to wait for over two years to correct this horrific blunder. That's the important bit.

Total hogwash. No way were the American people going to vote in an aging politican with a vice president with a beauty pagent brain.

Obama will not be successful in cleaning up our problems nor will the next president. If you think you have someone who can clean up decades of corruption and greed in our country in one term you must be a true Palinite.
 
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