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Ground Zero Mosque On The Move?

Yea.. they turned a room into a prayer area.. that is a mosque.. or church, or synagogue ... whatever you want to call it. Face it, it is no different than what is going on near ground zero.

Bull****, this is not a non-denominational prayer room, it is a Mosque, if it's a community center then when will they be holding prayer services for faiths other than Islam?
 
Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

I wonder if the reason is many Muslims and Muslim organizations were against it and spoke out.

Or maybe the Muslims are doing it for humanitarian reasons. They don't want to be the cause of bad press and hysterical riots.

ricksfolly
 
This is a principled comment:

I don't care bottom line is he wants a Sharia Compliant US.

A "Sharia compliant US" is simply an Islamic Republic, which Imam Rauf has stated he would like to see, "I see no reason why the U.S. could not be Sharia compliant." (Forbes, 2008).
 
Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

I have the right to protest on public property in front of your house for as long as I want to even if it disturbs you.... that is my 1st amendment right, and it appears to me that you want to take that right from me..... Why?

I have the right but you don't support me. The Imam has the right and you do support him. Totally illogical.

In the given scenario, you just come on down and throw up your picket signs if you wish. But after the threat for which was the origin of your protest is over, I will have you arrested for disorderly conduct and disturbing the peace. That is MY right to disband your now unlawful "peaceful assembly". You really don't want to play this game of legal roulette with someone who works in public health and deals with these types of issues everyday. Now, stop wasting my time and focus on the thread topic at hand, shall we?
 
In case you didn't know GayLib, if it weren't for liberals, slavery would still exist in the United States, women wouldn't still be allowed to vote, the civil rights movement would have never happened and gays wouldn't be able to marry in 5 U.S. states and soon to be six (CA). Do you think it was conservatives who were behind all of those movements? HA! The history of the conservative movements in this country have always had one agenda, to keep White, Christian, heterosexual Males at the top of the American hierarchy and to discriminate against everyone else.

You sir, need to learn a little more about politics.

Nothing in that paragraph has anything to do with the modern American left save for the last one. Nice try though.
 
Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

In the given scenario, you just come on down and throw up your picket signs if you wish. But after the threat for which was the origin of your protest is over, I will have you arrested for disorderly conduct and disturbing the peace. That is MY right to disband your now unlawful "peaceful assembly". You really don't want to play this game of legal roulette with someone who works in public health and deals with these types of issues everyday. Now, stop wasting my time and focus on the thread topic at hand, shall we?

The dogs were your idea..... I just don't want you to live near me...... did you move?

BTW....... even if the dogs were my motive, what part of the Constitution limits my rights to freedom of speech and assembly only to those times I have a valid reason to exercise them? Article, section, clause, or amendment please.

This isn’t a waste of your time, it is an example of your fighting for the rights of something you believe in, but wanting to limit the rights of those you don’t agree with.
 
Nothing in that paragraph has anything to do with the modern American left save for the last one. Nice try though.

The civil rights movement has nothing to do with the modern American left? Nice try kid.
 
Really? So its the conservatives who are pushing for gays to have the right to marry?

Conservatives are the ones that can read and understand simple words without changing the meanings of the words.

mar·riage 
–noun
1. a. the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.

Marriage | Define Marriage at Dictionary.com

:shrug:
 
The civil rights movement has nothing to do with the modern American left? Nice try kid.

Hey kid...... what years contained that "civil rights movement"?.... and how did the "modern American left" travel back in time to have anything to do with it? :confused:
 
Hey kid...... what years contained that "civil rights movement"?.... and how did the "modern American left" travel back in time to have anything to do with it? :confused:

I think you're confusing the word modern with the word present. Scholars consider Modern American History from 1914-present. Seriously, don't just oppose everything I say because I'm a liberal. At least have something to back it up.
 
Conservatives are the ones that can read and understand simple words without changing the meanings of the words.

Wasn't it conservatives who implemented all of the miscegenation laws in the south to prevent blacks and whites from marrying, and used scriptures from the Bible and "tradition" to support this? Oh wait, let me guess, you believe that was wrong but preventing gay marriage isn't. Conservatives live in the moment. Any past discriminations that were overcame they are miraculously "o.k." with, but don't want any new changes for equality. Liberal look ahead to the future, and see how they can make the world a more equal place.

BTW

Main Entry: mar·riage
Pronunciation: \ˈmer-ij, ˈma-rij\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English mariage, from Anglo-French, from marier to marry
Date: 14th century
1 a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage <same-sex marriage> b : the mutual relation of married persons : wedlock c : the institution whereby individuals are joined in a marriage

Webster
 
Wasn't it conservatives who implemented all of the miscegenation laws in the south to prevent blacks and whites from marrying, and used scriptures from the Bible and "tradition" to support this? Oh wait, let me guess, you believe that was wrong but preventing gay marriage isn't. Conservatives live in the moment. Any past discriminations that were overcame they are miraculously "o.k." with, but don't want any new changes for equality. Liberal look ahead to the future, and see how they can make the world a more equal place.

BTW

Main Entry: mar·riage
Pronunciation: \ˈmer-ij, ˈma-rij\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English mariage, from Anglo-French, from marier to marry
Date: 14th century
1 a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage <same-sex marriage> b : the mutual relation of married persons : wedlock c : the institution whereby individuals are joined in a marriage

Webster
It was Dems that past the Jim Crow laws, and started the KKK. Anything else on racism you want to cover in this thread on Islam?
 
It was Dems that past the Jim Crow laws, and started the KKK. Anything else on racism you want to cover in this thread on Islam?

Please learn how to read before you post. I never said anything about Democrats or Republicans not ONCE in that post.
 
Please learn how to read before you post. I never said anything about Democrats or Republicans not ONCE in that post.


You're being as deceptive as the Imam involved in this case. Look, everyone understands that the Imam has the "right" to build his Mosque on that site. They own the building, and they can do it if they go forward. Rauf says that they want that Mosque there to extend outreach, and understanding of their solidarity of 9/11, and the victims. Well, the victims families, and a majority of the people DON"T WANT IT THERE! Period! yet he continues to push forward. Even in the extraordinary offer by Gov. Patterson to accommodate his mosque where tensions would be less. That to me shows he {Rauf} is a liar, and never was his intent to outreach anything.

This Mosque is truly like Cordoba and I hope that the voice of opposition drives him out.

j-mac
 
You're being as deceptive as the Imam involved in this case.

I'm being deceptive by clarifying that the Democratic Party hasn't always been so liberal and the Republican Party hasn't always been so conservative? Anyone who thinks that is "deceptive" certainly never took a college level history or political science class, because its simply the truth.
 
Look, everyone understands that the Imam has the "right" to build his Mosque on that site. They own the building, and they can do it if they go forward.

j-mac

The blame for the hoopala lies equally with the media and Rep opportunists. Just another form of political Gotcha...

ricksfolly
 
Anyone who thinks that is "deceptive" certainly never took a college level history or political science class, because its simply the truth.

The truth?

From whom? You? The "professor?"

College level history and poli sci courses are so blatantly Marxist and left-wing.

Unlike most ignorant and impressionable youngun's that went to college I could think for myself and didn't beleive Professor Churchill when he told me my nation was full of Nazi's and that Mumia was a saint. So if a left-wing, overweight, rumpled-suit-wearing, Marxist, anti-Semitic college professor LECTURES ME on "American History" its correct? Thats gospel?

LOL.

The "feminist" universities where women first discover the link between Marx and clitoral stimulation is even more whack. Hillary even stated that her first lesbian experience in college was "revolutionary." That must have been some whack stimulation.
 
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Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

Brilliant ??

First, I don't know of anyone that wants to "deny" the builders the right to build the mosque.


How about senate candidate Carl Paladino, who wants to stop the project by using EMINENT DOMAIN? This is a big sticking point that he uses in his TV / radio ads.
 
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Please learn how to read before you post. I never said anything about Democrats or Republicans not ONCE in that post.

lol you're trying to paint the modern conservative movement with the same brush as anti-abolitionists and pro-segregationists. What a joke. We might as well associate the modern leftists with small decentralized government. :roll:
 
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Be sure to send him a PM! LOL!


How about a round of applause for the DP mods?

:allhail

Carry on chillun's. Carry on.
 
lol you're trying to paint the modern conservative movement with the same brush as anti-abolitionists and pro-segregationists. What a joke. We might as well associate the modern leftists with small decentralized government. :roll:

Sometimes you have good arguments, sometimes you don't. Usually your bad arguments are only a sentence or two with no facts or examples to back up your statements. Just a futile attempt to assure that a good point made by a "liberal" not be the last word.
 
Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

How about senate candidate Carl Paladino, who wants to stop the project by using EMINENT DOMAIN? This is a big sticking point that he uses in his TV / radio ads.

He is simply taking a page from the liberal's handbook. They have historically utilized the court system to delay and prevent construction projects. Nothing wrong with using local law to stop this. It's all a moot point anyway. I seriously doubt they will find any union construction workers willing to work on this project.
 
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