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I've hated the ****ing FDA every since they pulled my Vioxx. The ****ers. The more I hear about what they do, the more of a waste of govt money I think they are.

I agree with you about the FDA, but I can't help but wonder if Vioxx had caused you to have a stroke or heart attack that you wouldn't be blaming them for approving it in the first place.

I remember when the FDA approved Phen fen, a diet pill that the FDA had to have known was linked to pulmonary hypertension and death in women because tests done in Europe were linking the drug to an outbreak of deaths in European women and they had pulled the drug off the market. Thats the reason Phen fen stands out in my mind because I had heard about the European studies and so I could not belieeeve it when the FDA approved it here. Soon billboards advertising the diet pill were everywhere and doctors were prescribing it like candy. I don't even think the doctors were aware of the risks, because I asked my own doctor if he knew about risks and he tried to assure me the pill was safe. So now I don't even trust the judgement of doctors, let alone the FDA. But sure enough, reports started pouring in from all over the US of women sick and dying from pulmonary hypertension linked to Phen fen and it still took quite a few deaths before the FDA finally pulled the drug off the market.
Former FDA Official Condemns Fen Phen's Approval

So I agree with you about the FDA only for the opposite reason. But still, I truly believe we need someone to approve drug safety, and if not the FDA then who or what? DEFINITELY NOT the drug companies.
 
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I agree with you about the FDA, but I can't help but wonder if Vioxx had caused you to have a stroke or heart attack that you wouldn't be blaming them for approving it in the first place.

I remember when the FDA approved Phen fen, a diet pill that the FDA had to have known was linked to pulmonary hypertension and death in women because tests done in Europe were linking the drug to an outbreak of deaths in European women and they had pulled the drug off the market. Thats the reason Phen fen stands out in my mind because I had heard about the European studies and so I could not belieeeve it when the FDA approved it here. Soon billboards advertising the diet pill were everywhere and doctors were prescribing it like candy. I don't even think the doctors were aware of the risks, because I asked my own doctor if he knew about risks and he tried to assure me the pill was safe. So now I don't even trust the judgement of doctors, let alone the FDA. But sure enough, reports started pouring in from all over the US of women sick and dying from pulmonary hypertension linked to Phen fen and it still took quite a few deaths before the FDA finally pulled the drug off the market.
Former FDA Official Condemns Fen Phen's Approval

So I agree with you about the FDA only for the opposite reason. But still, I truly believe we need someone to approve drug safety, and if not the FDA then who or what? DEFINITELY NOT the drug companies.


You might want to check the effects of the fda approved drug thamaldihide as well.While your checking the fda out check and see how much the drug companies pay to get their drugs on the fast lane.
 
You might want to check the effects of the fda approved drug thamaldihide as well.While your checking the fda out check and see how much the drug companies pay to get their drugs on the fast lane.

Thank you, but I'm already aware of "thamaldihide" and rBGH and the dubious 'fast track" and outright fraud of drug companies. I don't think anyone can honestly say the FDA is perfect, but their only purpose for even existing is consumer safety and not the drug companies bottom line.
 
Regardless of whether this was a good decision or not, how is this in any way related to the healthcare reform bill? The FDA has had the power to approve or not approve drugs since long before it was passed.
 
Regardless of whether this was a good decision or not, how is this in any way related to the healthcare reform bill? The FDA has had the power to approve or not approve drugs since long before it was passed.

It's not related, in any way shape or form.

It's just another example of people resorting to outright lies to accomplish their goals. I guess straight-up propaganda wasn't enough...
 
I agree with you about the FDA, but I can't help but wonder if Vioxx had caused you to have a stroke or heart attack that you wouldn't be blaming them for approving it in the first place.
It only caused issues in people in certain risk categories (over 60 and heart conditions). I was neither. I knew the risks of the drug and I prefer to take the risk. I have not been able to find a drug to get rid of my migraines since they pulled Vioxx. I'll take the teeny risk over repetitive agony any day of the week and twice on sunday.

I remember when the FDA approved Phen fen, a diet pill that the FDA had to have known was linked to pulmonary hypertension and death in women because tests done in Europe were linking the drug to an outbreak of deaths in European women and they had pulled the drug off the market. Thats the reason Phen fen stands out in my mind because I had heard about the European studies and so I could not belieeeve it when the FDA approved it here. Soon billboards advertising the diet pill were everywhere and doctors were prescribing it like candy. I don't even think the doctors were aware of the risks, because I asked my own doctor if he knew about risks and he tried to assure me the pill was safe. So now I don't even trust the judgement of doctors, let alone the FDA. But sure enough, reports started pouring in from all over the US of women sick and dying from pulmonary hypertension linked to Phen fen and it still took quite a few deaths before the FDA finally pulled the drug off the market.
Former FDA Official Condemns Fen Phen's Approval
Yeah, and since then I've tried to get it. THAT I can get. Vioxx is hard to find though.

So I agree with you about the FDA only for the opposite reason. But still, I truly believe we need someone to approve drug safety, and if not the FDA then who or what? DEFINITELY NOT the drug companies.
Any number of 3rd party agencies could do testing, and yes the drug companies too. Their NAME is associated with the drugs they send out. It's in their best interest not to have death and destruction tied to their name. So yeah, public trust in a brand is a HUGE thing.

Regardless of what would or would not take it's place, it's obvious the FDA is a political govt agency and paid by the drug companies. It needs to be dismanteled.
 
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