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President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

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New York Post
Aug 13, 2010

President Obama strongly backed the mosque planned near Ground Zero as he celebrated Ramadan with Muslim Americans at the White House – saying it shows that America’s commitment to to religious tolerance is "unshakeable."

"Let me be clear: as a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country. That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances," Obama said in his first comments on the controversy.

President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque - NYPOST.com

As of today 61% of New Yorkers many of them democrats, are aginst the ground zero mosque. Obama comes out in support. Not a very smart move on his part.
 
Again people may not like it, but nothing legally can be done. What would you want the President to do say no they can't build it?
 
I believe what he's doing is this:

Coming out in support of the 1st Amendment.

If you have a problem with it. Change it. But he's kinda upholding the constitution in this case...

You know that thing you accuse him of destroying...
 
what a shame, Obama supports upholding the law. :roll:

Except that Obama doesnt give a damm about people's rights. His MO is that if conservatives are against it, by default he has to be for it. Did Obama do the right thing? Yes but only in spite not because its the right thing to do.
 
Again people may not like it, but nothing legally can be done. What would you want the President to do say no they can't build it?

Agreed.

All these people's objections tell me that they SHOULD build this mosque.
 
Except that Obama doesnt give a damm about people's rights. His MO is that if conservatives are against it, by default he has to be for it. Did Obama do the right thing? Yes but only in spite not because its the right thing to do.

saying he was against it wouldn't have done anything either, 'cept he'd be criticised for going against the law, he just took the path of least resistance.
 
Obama should stay out of this. If the KKK announced plans to build a shrine at the site of the 16th Street Baptist Church, would Obama be talking about religious freedom? I agree that they have a right to build this mosque but I also believe they have an agenda and it has nothing to do with tolerance and understanding.
 
Obama should stay out of this. If the KKK announced plans to build a shrine at the site of the 16th Street Baptist Church, would Obama be talking about religious freedom? I agree that they have a right to build this mosque but I also believe they have an agenda and it has nothing to do with tolerance and understanding.

What agenda is this? I hope you're not referring to Sharia Law
 
If this mosque is built. I predict it will be destroyed within a year.
 
Obama should stay out of this. If the KKK announced plans to build a shrine at the site of the 16th Street Baptist Church, would Obama be talking about religious freedom? I agree that they have a right to build this mosque but I also believe they have an agenda and it has nothing to do with tolerance and understanding.

I don't believe the KKK is a religion, so your example does not appear to be applicable.
 
what a shame, Obama supports upholding the law. :roll:

And so do most of the opponents to the building of that Mosque. It's not the matter of if they can build it or not. It's the matter of why they are building that mosque in that location. I am for them building mosques, but that location is creating tension. It's like burning the American flag. It's legal, but many Americans(I hope a majority....) does not like people that do that in front of their faces or stomp of the American flag. It's a sign of disrespect to the people there. And this mosque is showing that despite a majority of people do not want it at that location, "we are gonna do it anyway because we can" kind of attitude. How you like it when a guy walks up front of you, spits on an American flag, stomps on it, then lights it up. But then again.... They can do it, but people might not like it.
 
If this mosque is built. I predict it will be destroyed within a year.

Is this the agenda you were referring to? Or is this responding to another post?

I don't believe Islam is a religion. Islam is an evil cult and must be eliminated.

With this kind of talk you'll probably have the NSA on your ass.
 
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I don't believe Islam is a religion. Islam is an evil cult and must be eliminated.

Well, it's been around for about 1400 years, and 1.3 billion people practice it. I'd say it qualifies as a religion.
 
I haven't seen any quotes from Obama indicating that he actually supports the building of the mosque - just that he believes it to be legal to do so. Whether or not you think the mosque should be built, I've yet to see anybody claim that it cannot be built. From the quotes I've seen Obama didn't take sides one way or the other - his comments are completely mundane.
 
I don't believe Islam is a religion. Islam is an evil cult and must be eliminated.

They fit as well into the definition as a cult as any other modern religion really. I mean many religions have their terrorists. Christian terrorists, Jewish terrorists, etc. The only religion I haven't heard being claimed by a terrorist is Bhuddism, even though with the whole Tibet deal I could be wrong about even that.
 
I don't believe Islam is a religion. Islam is an evil cult and must be eliminated.

He look, this is where you lose all credibility! :2wave:
 
And so do most of the opponents to the building of that Mosque. It's not the matter of if they can build it or not. It's the matter of why they are building that mosque in that location. I am for them building mosques, but that location is creating tension. It's like burning the American flag. It's legal, but many Americans(I hope a majority....) does not like people that do that in front of their faces or stomp of the American flag. It's a sign of disrespect to the people there. And this mosque is showing that despite a majority of people do not want it at that location, "we are gonna do it anyway because we can" kind of attitude. How you like it when a guy walks up front of you, spits on an American flag, stomps on it, then lights it up. But then again.... They can do it, but people might not like it.

You are aware, are you not, that the property was purchased and the project was being planned long before 9/11/2001. They could not possibly know that several blocks away that a future tragedy would happen.

And it isn't just the location of the mosque. Protests against building mosques and Muslim community centers are popping up all over the country, nearly a dozen in the just past couple of weeks alone.

It's their land, they've been planning it for years before 9/11 happened, the project complies with all applicable laws and ordinances, and they have the same property protection rights as the rest of us. Frankly, I'm disappointed at the religious intolerance I've been seeing in a nation built upon the foundation of religious freedom and tolerance.
 
Is this the agenda you were referring to? Or is this responding to another post?



With this kind of talk you'll probably have the NSA on your ass.

The NSA dosn't have time to waste on a citizen expressing his opinion about an evil cult or his opinion that this mosque if built will not last a year.
 
By allowing a Mosque to be built near ground zero, it show's how tolerant and rightous the U.S. is to the rest of the world.
 
The NSA dosn't have time to waste on a citizen expressing his opinion about an evil cult or his opinion that this mosque if built will not last a year.

I'm still confused though... is this agenda you mentioned that they hope the Mosque will be destroyed? Or were you referring to something else?
 
He look, this is where you lose all credibility! :2wave:

I am not looking for your approval. And who are you to decide if I do or do not have credibility. Oh wait, thats your opinion right? Remember opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one.
 
I am not looking for your approval. And who are you to decide if I do or do not have credibility. Oh wait, thats your opinion right? Remember opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one.

But yours is the one that smells.
 
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