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US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday — around 9/11

JohnWOlin said:
btw Im going to eat a ****load today, take a hit from a bong, and then have sex with it...right in front of a mosque.
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Erm ... I don't care?
 
digsbe said:
I do understand that many Muslims condemn terror attacks, and that it's foolish to say all Muslims are responsible for 9/11. I just believe it's a prime time to condemn the attacks and mourn with the rest of us who mourn for the losses on 9/11.
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Well it ain't 9/11 yet, so perhaps they will. Who knows.

digsbe said:
Say a Christian nation existed and in the name of God bombed Mecca and killed thousands of people. Would it not be sensetive if a Christian holiday like Easter (that changes each year) fell on the anniversary of the attack?
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What does sensitivity have to do with coincidence?
 
Laila said:
Erm ... I don't care?
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:( :( :( :(

Btw I just realized you were from London. Maybe this is just perception from TV but anytime I watch BBC it seems like there are a lot of muslim people living there. If that's true, why is that?
 
RightinNYC said:
That'll show em.

USA
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Yup, right up to the point where he gets arrested for illegal drugs. Less it's a "tobacco" bong. Hahah.
 
JohnWOlin said:
:( :( :( :(

Btw I just realized you were from London. Maybe this is just perception from TV but anytime I watch BBC it seems like there are a lot of muslim people living there. If that's true, why is that?
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Trying to get a reaction?

I wish.
My borough has no Mosques :(

Muslims make up less than 2% of UK's population.
 
Laila said:
Trying to get a reaction?

I wish.
My borough has no Mosques :(

Muslims make up less than 2% of UK's population.
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No just a random question and stealing a joke from Colbert.
 
JohnWOlin said:
No just a random question and stealing a joke from Colbert.
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Video unavailable in my country.
But I can guess what it will include.
 
Laila said:
Heh.
Oh wow. You have unintentionally mentioned one of divisions.
We are not united on Ramadan. Muslims from different sects, countries have a pissing contest when Ramadan comes about, disagreeing on "when" the Moon shows. What signals the beginning of Ramadan? Does it start when the native country declares it or when Saudi's do? Follow tradition or science.

Divisions among Muslims. Endless.
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Is this a battle between 21st century Muslims and 7th century Muslims? (in mentality, of course)
 
Laila said:
Nothing can happen with Muslims as a "whole". We are more divided than ever. No way will you ever heard a "united" 1.2billion condemnation of terrorism. There is no hierarchy of authority.

And Muslims have been condemning, the difference is very few hear it. I am not going to sit here and pretend I spend all day condemning what Muslims do abroad because frankly. It is not my fault what other people do and I and other Moderates are not responsible for it.

What the Muslim community in US seem to be doing is just doing pre-empting those who will claim Muslims are celebrating 9/11 on Eid and trying to put out information. I don't blame them either.
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How many Muslims are going to postpone the holiday recognition, out of respect for the victims of 9/11? Any?

I bet you're all going to be united when it comes to that.
 
apdst said:
How many Muslims are going to postpone the holiday recognition, out of respect for the victims of 9/11? Any?

I bet you're all going to be united when it comes to that.
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Did you postpone watching football/baseball on 9/11 out of respect for the dead?
 
apdst said:
How many Muslims are going to postpone the holiday recognition, out of respect for the victims of 9/11? Any?

I bet you're all going to be united when it comes to that.
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good idea, they should do that, just as soon as christians postpone christmas out of respect for the 2004 tsunami.
 
RightinNYC said:
They do? ****, my calendar is ****ED UP.
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I need to take a second to lmao. :mrgreen:

Yeah, it seems islamaphobia is rocking the US as it is Europe where we know xenophobic views are common place. I hope Democracy and common sense will prevail though, and avoid the US going down the usual European anti-Islam road. If it doesn't, we've lost tolerant America to the extremists, as we have much of Europe.

God bless America man. :peace
 
RightinNYC said:
Did you postpone watching football/baseball on 9/11 out of respect for the dead?
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I don't like football. But, to answer your question, I do not partake in festivities on 6 June, 11 September, 7 December, or the last Monday in May.

Anymore smartass questions?
 
marduc said:
good idea, they should do that, just as soon as christians postpone christmas out of respect for the 2004 tsunami.
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The Tsunami was an attack comitted by Christian terrorists? See how silly that question is, now?
 
apdst said:
The Tsunami was an attack comitted by Christian terrorists? See how silly that question is, now?
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no, see both are horrific tragedies where thousands of people died that should be viewed with respect and deference; however neither warrants rearranging entrenched religious based holidays.

The entirety of Islam should rearrange their entire traditional holiday observances because a few people who happened to share their religion decided planes and famous landmarks would be a dramatic combination?

I would elaborate more; however it would hit a brick wall of irrational scapegoating of an entire religion for the acts of a few I think.
 
apdst said:
How many Muslims are going to postpone the holiday recognition, out of respect for the victims of 9/11? Any?

I bet you're all going to be united when it comes to that.
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:shrug:

I do not speak for anyone but myself.
I'd rather wait for the Moon to show at the end before anyone jumps on the "fact" Eid is on 9/11.
 
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apdst said:
I don't like football. But, to answer your question, I do not partake in festivities on 6 June, 11 September, 7 December, or the last Monday in May.

Anymore smartass questions?
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What about April 19th? June 17th?


Oh wait, why am I asking you this. You dont even like football...
 
Laila said:
:shrug:

I do not speak for anyone but myself.
I'd rather wait for the Moon to show at the end before anyone jumps on the "fact" Eid is on 9/11.
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serious question -- what does the moon have to show to annouce the fact that Eid has started? Isn't it something that the astronomical sciences can tell us when it will happen? After all, during the early Middle Ages, Islamic astronomy was the best in the world yet even before the advent of Islam in Arabia, the Chinese were predicting things like eclipises of the sun and moon...
 
Two quick things:

1) 9/11 was not committed by all Muslims; one should not hold every Muslim responsible for Al Qaeda's terrorist attack.
2) Eid falls on the same day every year on the Islamic calendar. It is the Gregorian calendar on which it falls on different days.

Should Eid fall on 9/11, and that is not yet assured, a reasonable person should understand that Muslims are celebrating Eid, not commemorating the terrorist attacks that occurred on that day in 2001.
 
donsutherland1 said:
Two quick things:

1) 9/11 was not committed by all Muslims; one should not hold every Muslim responsible for Al Qaeda's terrorist attack.
2) Eid falls on the same day every year on the Islamic calendar. It is the Gregorian calendar on which it falls on different days.

Should Eid fall on 9/11, and that is not yet assured, a reasonable person should understand that Muslims are celebrating Eid, not commemorating the terrorist attacks that occurred on that day in 2001.
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How can it fall on the same day on the Islamic calendar yet now know what day it will fall this year on the Gregorian calendar.

Seriously, many of the holidays here are based on the Chinese lunar calendar, but we know exactly what day for years in the future what day they will fall on the Gregorian calendar...
 
ludahai said:
You are comparing an act of terrorists with an act of nature?

Fail!!!
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No i am comparing tragedies that occurred on or around religious holidays to each other, so if there is a failure here, it is in comprehending what the comparison was and that it is valid, especially in response to the ludicrous suggestion that religious holidays should be postponed because of a tragedy.. regardless of cause whether it was man made, terrorist, or natural, that point is moot.
 
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