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Gregg Gutfeld Says He Plans to Open Gay Bar Next to Mosque

Guy Incognito said:
Considering that Greg Gutfeld is a comedian, I'd say that this isn't a serious attempt at all. Of course, if he is serious he certainly has a right to do so, but it seems like it would be a poor investment. It's probably just a lame excuse to make jokes that are both homophobic and anti-Islamic at the same time, very poor taste.
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What's in poor tast is building a mosque at ground zero there is absolutely nothing in poor taste with building a gay bar there unless you're a gay bashing Islamist supporter that is.
 
Hatuey said:
No. It's trolling when you don't understand the comments being made by people so you jump into wave a flag mode. It would take somebody far more connected than a FOX News commentator to get a licquor license and operate next door to a house of worship in any state. That's what my argument was in reference to. When you're ready to discuss my statements, maybe you can come back to your thread?
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Understood 1st amendment = freedom of religion but not freedom from religion. :roll:
 
Agent Ferris said:
So let me get this straight in your world the 1st amendment = only freedom of religion and not freedom from religion as well? Good to know. :roll: Refusing to allow the building of a bar next to a house of worship is a clear violation of the establishment clause as the sole determining factor would be that it was a place of worship.
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It's not a violation of the establishment clause. Why don't you tell us what the Establishment clause actually is? It prohibits the government from giving preferential treatment to - gasp - ONE RELIGION OVER ANOTHER or establishing a national religion.

Establishment Clause said:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
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Please pick up a history book? There are already a bunch of states which do not allow the creation of bars near churches, schools, hospitals etc. Here's an example from - you guess it - New York :

Two Brooklyn lawmakers are tightening a law so people don’t drink near where they pray.
Under State Sen. Dan Squadron and Assemblymember Joan Millman’s bill, a loophole will be closed in the so-called 200-foot law, intended to keep nightlife establishments a reasonable distance from schools and places of worship.
“By clarifying that measurements must be taken from the property line, as was always intended, this bill creates a clear, consistent standard for communities and establishments to follow – another step toward desperately needed consistency and clarity in licensing,” said Squadron of the bill that recently passed the Senate.

Read more: Bars to stay away from Churches - NYPOST.com
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When you can tell us what the establishment clause actually means and what it has to do with whatever nonsense it is you're talking about then you're welcome to come back. Till then? K Thanx Bai.
 
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texmaster said:
A few?! How many posts do I have to present? I'm already up to 7 far left postings from you. Everything from a pure hatred of Sarah Palin to personal attacks on her daughter to a disdain of capitalism. Exactly how many more postings do I have to provide before you admit your political allegiance?
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This is patently false and has been thoroughly debunked elsewhere. The fact that you continue to repeat this misinformation is par for the course. I never attacked Bristol Palin. I DEFENDED HER.

How about some more?
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It's "liberal" to believe that Jan Brewer is a racist? Wow. Are you suggesting that conservatives don't believe that a person could be racist?

I'm saying that many Christians believe that laws in the U.S. should be based upon Old Testament laws. That's why so many of them are such big fans of having the Ten Commandments posted in local courthouses. They believe that God's laws supercede those of mankind.
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One has to be a Christian in order to be a centrist? There are no atheist/agnostic centrists in your world? Interesting.

I don't think that you even understand what it means to be a centrist. Being a centrist means that you have BOTH liberal and conservative beliefs. It doesn't mean that you only have conservative beliefs.

But, I'll tell you what...we can continue this downstairs, rather than again disruptiing the thread. In fact, feel free to create a survey about me, and see if your opinions are shared by others.

Hope that helps.

And, I'm not going to apologize to you, dear, when I expressed agreement with you in post 4. :roll:

p.s. Have fun on The View today, Whoopie.
 
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while we're trying our hardest to offend everyone, how 'bout a HQ for neo-nazis, a non kosher pig slaughter house and another division of the westboro baptists, that way everyone can bitch about something equally :)
 
Agent Ferris said:
Because according to every single mainstream sect of Islam homosexuality is a capital offense.
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Its also not a problem...Muslims arent homosexuals...or maybe thats just in Iran.
 
VanceMack said:
Its also not a problem...Muslims arent homosexuals...or maybe thats just in Iran.
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No, the issue isn't that Muslims aren't homosexuals, it's that there aren't any gay Muslims, because THEY KILL YOU for it in some countries.
 
Imanutjob said there was no homosexuality in Iran.
 
Harshaw said:
Imanutjob said there was no homosexuality in Iran.
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Well, you'd have to be pretty stupid to be openly gay in Iran at this point. It's like being openly black in Springfield, Missouri, after the lynchings in 1906.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Well, you'd have to be pretty stupid to be openly gay in Iran at this point. It's like being openly black in Springfield, Missouri, after the lynchings in 1906.
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I don't think I'd even try opening up an openly insouciant bar in Iran, myself.

But maybe a somber coffee shop would thrive.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
No, the issue isn't that Muslims aren't homosexuals, it's that there aren't any gay Muslims, because THEY KILL YOU for it in some countries.
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Whaaaaaaaat? Those BASTARDS!!!
 
Hatuey said:
Jesus, pun intended, what moral difference are you talking about? Unlike you I don't dwell in the world of what is 'moral' or 'immoral' when making decisions. I go with what is 'within the laws and regulations' and what is 'outside the laws and regulations'. The reality and argument which has been made is that it would be incredibly hard to operate a gay bar next door to a house of worship because of the zoning regulations in most municipalities. It has nothing to do with morality. It has to do with what is in the law books regulating where buildings can and can't be built. Understand that simple fact?
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And of course predictably you did not read the article where it states the land is commerical zoning ie completly legal for a bar. Thanks for once again not reading carefully.

Now if you weren't so obnoxiously anti-Muslim, you'd realize that the argument being made has as much to do with it 'being a free country' as it has with whatever other stupid strawman you made up to get your jolies up. If the FOX News commentator has the resources allowing him to place a gay bar next to a house of worship? All the more power to him. If he can get required approval for such a project? Go for it. However what has been stated is that it won't be anywhere near an easy task for him.

Wait, let me guess what your argument is 'free country' right?
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Why is it when liberals like you can't argue the point they immediatly yell strawman? Is this some class you take on ways to duck out of an argument you can't win?

If you really believe that then you wouldn't have a problem with this bar being placed where it is but you have. So I ask again, why do you have a problem with the bar and not the Mosque? For the third time, the zoning is legal for a bar.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
This is patently false and has been thoroughly debunked elsewhere. The fact that you continue to repeat this misinformation is par for the course. I never attacked Bristol Palin. I DEFENDED HER.
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THEN EXPLAIN YOUR QUOTE. I quoted you DIRECTLY. Show me ONE DIRECT QUOTE I posted that you did not say. Stop lying Catz. Those words are your own.

It's "liberal" to believe that Jan Brewer is a racist?
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Um, YEAH! LOL You had NO evidence of any racist quote she ever made. You were thrarted soundly yet you still hold onto this lie.

Wow. Are you suggesting that conservatives don't believe that a person could be racist?
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We actually like to have real quotes and facts behind calling someone a racist. People on the far left like you, enjoy the accusation not the facts to support it.

I see you ducked your postings on your disdain for capitalism as well. Do you really think you are fooling anyone by ignoring your own direct quotes? Really?

One has to be a Christian in order to be a centrist?
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You are quoting the wrong person. LOL I never said that or any other quote after that. Try to keep up Catz.


Just to recap, you ran away from the direct quote I gave you on the zoning property where you falsely claimed I had not provided the evidence that the property was in fact legally zoned for a bar.

And then you also ran away from your own post where you claimed my logic was flawed even though later you admitted you agree with me.

If you think I didn't notice how you cherry picked what points you addressed and did not address, think again :)
 
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texmaster said:
How do you know he isn't serious?
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Are you kidding? I know because he's a comedian, his job is to not be serious about these things. But even if we naively assume he is serious, such an idea as this would never get off the ground. As a business investment the idea is idiotic. It would be a money sink. So unless he plans on paying for it out of pocket, or has investors who are willing to dump their money on a cheap political point (that was just as easily made for free when he did the glenn back segment), it just ain't happening.
 
Guy Incognito said:
Are you kidding? I know because he's a comedian, his job is to not be serious about these things. But even if we naively assume he is serious, such an idea as this would never get off the ground. As a business investment the idea is idiotic. It would be a money sink. So unless he plans on paying for it out of pocket, or has investors who are willing to dump their money on a cheap political point (that was just as easily made for free when he did the glenn back segment), it just ain't happening.
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So you have no evidence. Despite him saying he was serious and his producer saying he was serious. Got it.
 
Found some worrisome stuff today while researching the Imam Rauf. Sorry I don't have links.I'm back to a POS computer and feel lucky everytime I even make a post. Can't do links at all.
Anyway Rauf seemed pretty clean. However his org. Cordobo Initiative has shaky staff. A guy named Sayyed Nadeem Kazmi. I found some scary stuff under his name as listed as Nadeem Kazmi. Also George Soros is involved in all this. Big surprise.
Even if Rauf is squeeky clean this whole mosqe thing is a bad idea in my opinion.
 
texmaster said:
Gregg Gutfeld, host of the FOX News show "Red Eye," announced on his show Monday that he would be opening up a gay bar for Islamic men right next door to the highly controversial mosque being built near Ground Zero.

Gutfeld also posted his plans on his blog, The Daily Gut , "I'm announcing tonight, that I am planning to build and open the first gay bar that caters not only to the west, but also Islamic gay men. To best express my sincere desire for dialogue, the bar will be situated next to the mosque Park51, in an available commercial space. This is not a joke. I've already spoken to a number of investors, who have pledged their support in this bipartisan bid for understanding and tolerance."

Gregg Gutfeld Says He Plans to Open Gay Bar Next to Mosque

Its a free country right? :lamo
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pretty dumb business man. doesn't he know there ARE no islamic gay men? :no:
 
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