Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operate

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Ockham said:

In 4 1/2 years with me and various restaurants --- no surprise inspections ever happened either. We always knew well in advance and needless to say, we cleaned up the kitchen, back and front lines, changed the fry oil, brushed all the grunge from behind the flat-top and broiler and scrubbed & hosed down the tile floor until we no longer slid on the grease and cleaned out the walk-ins. Never know what you'll find in walk-in's... but that's another story.

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The only surpise inspections were those conducted by the firm hired by corporate to insure sanitary working conditions. ECO-SURE. Like I said the only ones capable of insuring healthy food service are those that are running it, business owners have a vested interest in not poisoning their consumer.

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VanceMack said:

Ummm...Agent...I am the LAST person to bust people on spelling and grammer...but...

when insulting someone elses intelligence one should probably use the proper form of 'too'...

:2wave:

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Ya well that wasn't spelling that was grammar so right back at you.

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Hoplite said:

That's a scary thought because it means I dont have to have any training, any preparation, or any precautions to keep what I'm selling clean.

The intent of the law is to ensure that people are not sold potentially contaminated food by monitoring those who sell the food and ensuring they are following health codes. I dont care if shes 9 or 90, she is selling something that will be consumed by the public and as such she needs to do so in such a way that follows health codes.

I'm not opposed to having a sort of starter business license with an extremely low cost
for cases like this but I absolutely do not support the unregulated sale of items of consumption to the general public. We dont let adults get away with it, we shouldn't let kids get away with it because they're kids.

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Dude it's plainly ****ing obvious that you've never worked in the food service industry, the only thing that is going to insure clean food is good staff with a good kitchen manager and you can't hire as good of a staff or insure that the staff actually give a **** when you are spending the money that they should be making on the state racketeering scheme. You want cleaner food, pay your staff more money, you want the owners to be able to pay them more money, stop raping them in the ass for licenses and certificates.

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Agent Ferris said:

Ya well that wasn't spelling that was grammar so right back at you.

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I hope you got the joking intent...because lord knows...if you ever want to pick on spelling and grammar...Ive got your ammo!!!

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Hoplite said:

Health inspectors check for a hygenic set-up for serving food. If that isnt found, the business is shut down.


Because it's demonstrably effective and there needs to be independent insurance that a restaurant or food stand is selling food that wont poison people.

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The only insurance that a restaurant won't be poisoning their customers is well payed happy staff. Furthermore; the only routine inspections that I ever saw were those meeted out by corporate through a private firm that they hired and which gave each store a score, stores with poor scores had their managers replaced or otherwise reprimanded, stores with good scores saw their managers get increased pay and it was those managers who made sure that their staff was happy. Nobody ever gave a **** about the state health inspector we made sure we had a clean store because a) it was good for the back of the house because good scores meant raises, b) we all ate there either for free or half off and we wanted clean food, and c) good food meant better tips for the front of the house. Now I no longer work in a restaurant but I work in hundreds of restaurants as I make and install fridge and oven gaskets and I can tell you without a doubt that the worst kitchens I've seen are those with overworked and underpayed illegal immigrants staffing the kitchen and the best kitchens I've seen were corporate owned kitchens employing professional staff at good wages.

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Agent Ferris said:

The only surpise inspections were those conducted by the firm hired by corporate to insure sanitary working conditions. ECO-SURE. Like I said the only ones capable of insuring healthy food service are those that are running it, business owners have a vested interest in not poisoning their consumer.

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Where I worked - we didn't have those... probably a good idea though. I remember 16 years ago rolling into Roanoke VA late, and stopping at a place because we were starving. The GF at the time b-lines for the salad bar and quickly tugs on the back of my shirt and says "we've got to go somewhere else". "Why?" "I moved the lettuce and roaches ran all over the place".

We kinda lost our appitite that night. Can't remember the name of the place but I think it was a large franchise fast food type place.

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Ockham said:

Where I worked - we didn't have those... probably a good idea though. I remember 16 years ago rolling into Roanoke VA late, and stopping at a place because we were starving. The GF at the time b-lines for the salad bar and quickly tugs on the back of my shirt and says "we've got to go somewhere else". "Why?" "I moved the lettuce and roaches ran all over the place".

We kinda lost our appitite that night. Can't remember the name of the place but I think it was a large franchise fast food type place.

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Want the better places on the road to eat? My advice is to follow me or any of my fellow truckers. We can't afford to get sick on the road.


j-mac

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j-mac said:

Want the better places on the road to eat? My advice is to follow me or any of my fellow truckers. We can't afford to get sick on the road.


j-mac

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Just out of curiosity, what do you think of the PETRO places around the country?

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Ockham said:

Just out of curiosity, what do you think of the PETRO places around the country?

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some of them are aging, some are good. Depends on where you are I guess. As a whole though, I only go into a Petro if I have to, they like to charge to park when the others don't...Generally speaking for eats, I like some of the local business that cater to truckers....There are some damned good places out there with superb food, at good prices, and free coffee thermos fill ups for truckers....


j-mac