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California gay marriage ban overturned: report

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FilmFestGuy said:
We'll see. It's a tough Supreme Court - but Kennedy has voted in favor of gay rights in 3 of 4 cases that have made it that far.
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And Scalia has stated that gay rights could win if they came in as a 14th Amendment issue.

Done and done.
 
Orion said:
Asking for a rationale is not going to yield results. I suggest you save your energy.

The mouth foaming is exactly why prop 8 was defeated. There is no real reason to ban gay marriage in the year 2010. They've lost now and they'll eventually lose at the federal level for similar reasons. It's the same reason why DOMA was struck down not too long ago.
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Understandable.

It's a sly debate tactic to make people look silly, foolish and ignorant my friend. :cool:
 
The Prof said:
unbelievable

for all you know, i'm personally (LOL!) in favor of gay marriage

but whoever pushes it in this political climate is gonna have to pay for his or her position

it's just the way it is

party on!
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With your "look out" warnings and such, I would admittedly be shocked if you were in favor of gay marriage.

This is about Civil Rights and Equality. It's not about who there is more of. Those who wish to enshrine discrimination will be looked upon with scorn in the eyes of history.

I'd rather be voted against today but on the right side of the future. I'd rather tell younger generations that I was the person who fought for equality.

Soon, those against gay marriage will be viewed exactly like those who hosed down Civil Rights marchers and threatened the Freedom Riders.

Those aren't people I'd like to be associated with.
 
Your Star said:
We'll say it again
Activist Judges= A judge who makes a decision one does not agree with/ most of the time.

If you can read the ruling, and cite evidence that it's an "activist" ruling then post it. If you can't prove it(which you can't) then you should have a problem with this judges ruling.
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No an activist judge rules on personal and political beliefs
 
jallman said:
I know. It's been the talk of the news here in CA how they preempted the judge's ruling, basically showing they had no intentions of following the court's decision.

Any word on whether or not the stay of verdict is being granted?
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What I have been hearing(and I have been waiting for this decision all day...) is that most likely it will be held, as allowing marriages to go forward would create legal and ethical problems until a final verdict is reached in the last appeal. No one knows for sure yet, but I would bet on a stay.
 
The Prof said:
"people like you..."

LOL!

deal with the consequences of your VICTORY

november nears
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Um, in case you didn't notice, you lost.

You've lost in other cases as well.

You've lost in other countries.

You've lost support as well (each time this is on the ballot, it loses by less and less -- the public opinion is moving away from you, not toward you)

Every single indicator -- every single one -- points into the direction away from where you believe it is heading.

You have lost today, and you will lose in the future. Maybe not immediately, but it is inevitable.

History always shows a progression toward more freedom, not less.

So laugh while you can, monkey boy. We all know who will have the last laugh.
 
hazlnut said:
And Scalia has stated that gay rights could win if they came in as a 14th Amendment issue.

Done and done.
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I am very uncomfortable with a Justice prejudging or appearing to prejudge a case, whether or not I agree with what they say.
 
Redress said:
But if a gay judge cannot rule fairly on an issue involving gay marriage, there is no evidence a strait could either. Who do you think it is that oppose gay marriage...straits maybe?
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Married people
 
So a gay judge, overturns a gay marriage ban....

Great, so when does the appeal get filed and make this ruling pointless again?
 
I agree with the court's decision, and applaud it. I said from the start of the original debate that this is not an issue for majority rule, it is for the courts to decide. Huge amounts of money don't always guarantee a win for your side of any issue.
The Mom and Dad part, never heard about that, not that it matters. I still think that the people of California can think for themselves, no matter who donates tons of money...
 
texmaster said:
Yep. Another activist judge overthrowing the will of the people for a second time based on nothing but their own personal politics.

Sad but predictable.
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Post #4 and the old "activist judge" excuse rears its laughable head.

I'm sure we'll hear that title being throw around in the coming weeks.... But what happens when Scotus upholds the decision?? Gasp!!

Sad but predictable, indeed.
 
ptif219 said:
No an activist judge rules on personal and political beliefs
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You missed my point. You don't agree with it, so your calling him an activist judge. Have you read the ruling? Do you see anything in there that is a blatant example of "activism"? He used the Constitution as his basis for his ruling, you know the whole equal rights, and freedom thing.
 
ptif219 said:
No an activist judge rules on personal and political beliefs
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Can you please read the ruling and then respond point by point to it as to where you find this ruling to be "activist" vs. logical based on the presented arguments.

If you can do that for me, then you can say "activist judge". Until that point, the only thing you're doing is saying that gays can't be reasonable people (and with your later post - can't be as reasonable as heterosexual married people).
 
Better to have judges than kings (so says the bible)....
I don't miss King George W. at all....
 
jallman said:
NOt quite sure who you think I would be more likely to vote for in November....
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Using his logic, this really is a win/win for you.
 
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