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Ground zero mosque wins key vote

Ikari said:
They told us we couldn't use that word that it was your word.
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Witch is a demeaning, patriarchal term for women who embrace their innate femininity, dance naked in the
moonlight, and feast on the tender offspring of the faithful. Get with the program.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Witch is a demeaning, patriarchal term for women who embrace their innate femininity ...
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If I like to embrace women's innate femininity, does that make me a witch, too?
 
Coronado said:
Does she float?
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I don't know. We'll weigh her. If she weighs the same as a duck then she floats and hence is a *cough* earth-worshiper. Or whatever the dang PC name for witch is.

Man it was a lot easier when you just burned them.
 
Laila said:
Eid will fall on either the 10th or 11th of September depending on the moon and what night it shows. But most likely 11th considering we started fasting on the 11th of August.
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Reminds me of what happened to this guy:

Muslim merchant still draws outrage after viral photo | Houston & Texas News | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle
It started when the Muslim merchant posted a sign at his shop during Ramadan explaining the store would be closed Sept. 11 to remember the death of Imam Ali, a sacred Muslim figure. Master failed, however, to explain that Ali, who is remembered on a different date each year during Ramadan, died in 661 A.D. and was in no way related to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

Someone snapped a picture of the sign and started sending it around online, claiming Imam Ali was one of the Sept. 11 hijackers.

Before long the photo went viral, showing up on countless conservative Internet forums and prompting statements like this one that appeared at 2Aforum.com: "Picket, protest, and through lawful means, strangle their business."

Soon the phone calls started, befuddling and overwhelming store manager Hasan Kolsawala, who tried to explain that no offense was intended.
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Islamic ultra-conservatism is mostly a by-product of a corrupt state-faith relationship. The same exact thing happens in Christianity. Look at Uganda's gay policy.
 
DrunkenAsparagus said:
Islamic ultra-conservatism is mostly a by-product of a corrupt state-faith relationship. The same exact thing happens in Christianity. Look at Uganda's gay policy.
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Not even close to being a direct comaprison in voilence or local law.

Its actually insulting you would try to equate the two religions on that issue or any direct comparison on violence.
 
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texmaster said:
Its actually insulting you would try to equate the two religions on that issue or any direct comparison on violence.
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Painful that it actually is a comparison that can be made?
As if Christianity is peaceful.

Now if someone tried to compare Judaism and Islam on violence that would be unfair because Judaism hasn't got hundreds of years of bloodshed and wars like Christianity.
 
Laila said:
Painful that it actually is a comparison that can be made?
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Which mainstream branch of Christianity still calls for the death penalty for homosexuality? Because all of the mainstream branches of Islam still do.

As if Christianity is peaceful.

Now if someone tried to compare Judaism and Islam on violence that would be unfair because Judaism hasn't got hundreds of years of bloodshed and wars like Christianity.
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You mean the defensive response to Islamic Imperialist Expansionism into Christian lands?
 
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Yeah, because we Muslims are responsible for Christians killing one another in Europe. Yup, Islam is just that powerful we used Christians like a puppets in Europe forcing them to slaughter one.
 
DrunkenAsparagus said:
Islamic ultra-conservatism is mostly a by-product of a corrupt state-faith relationship. The same exact thing happens in Christianity. Look at Uganda's gay policy.
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Yup, theocracy is bad. Theocracy perverts religions and uses them for ill gains. The West went through this and we eventually divorced church from state, and it is the best thing to happen to religion. Theocracy is always a bad idea.
 
Laila said:
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Yeah, because we Muslims are responsible for Christians killing one another in Europe. Yup, Islam is just that powerful we used Christians like a puppets in Europe forcing them to slaughter one.
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Was this during the war fought when General Martin Luther led his reformation troops into battle against the loyalist Catholic forces led by Pope Leo the Xth?
 
Agent Ferris said:
He was a an Imperialist who spread Islam through the sword from central Asia to North Africa as head of the Rashidun Caliphate. Imperialist expansionism at its finest.
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Nice try, but the Rashidun Caliphate didn't even start until after Muhammad's death.
 
Degreez said:
Nice try, but the Rashidun Caliphate didn't even start until after Muhammad's death.
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And we were discussing Alī ibn Abī Ṭālib.

Now if you want to discuss Mohammad let's. First of all there is no evidence that Mohammad is anything but a mythical character, but if the Muslim sources regarding him are true and he actually existed (which I doubt) then they depict him as perpetrating genocide and ethnic cleansing against the Jewish Banu tribes of the Arabian Penninsula.
 
Jetboogieman said:
I have a deal for you "conservatives" out there who wanna subvert the constitution.

If you break private property laws and the constitution to stop the mosque from being built...

Will you let the gays marry?

A fair trade I think...
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Why would I be opposed to gays marrying? They should have the same right to be miserable as us breeders.
 
Agent Ferris said:
Now if you want to discuss Mohammad let's. First of all there is no evidence that Mohammad is anything but a mythical character, but if the Muslim sources regarding him are true and he actually existed (which I doubt) then they depict him as perpetrating genocide and ethnic cleansing against the Jewish Banu tribes of the Arabian Penninsula.
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You need to be more careful with your words, for someone who is so quick to insult others for mistakes you are remarkably careless in your reasoning. You say that there is "no evidence" that Muhammad existed, but there is.

There is plenty of evidence supporting the existence of Muhammad, not least of which is the Qur'an and the Hadith. You might not find this particularly persuasive but it is evidence nevertheless, and no amount of histrionics from you will change that fact.

Furthermore you equivocate between "evidence" and "non-Muslim evidence" as if the only source that constitutes actual evidence can come from a non-Muslim source. This is incorrect. A non-Muslim source might be stronger evidence, but this does not detract from the fact that Muslim sources very much remain a category of evidence (please let me know if I'm going too fast for you here).

Indeed, despite your flailing denials of Bishop Sebeos, you cannot contradict the fact that contemporaneous, non-Muslim evidence for the historicity of Muhammad does exist. "Evidence" and "evidence that convinces you" are two different things. You would do well to keep them straight.
 
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