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Ground zero mosque wins key vote

you are laughing at me for my comment, but it does not matter for me, just an advice.




Please to explain the following....


What is the issue with it, and what is bad if I don't remove it?


Being cryptic and all doesn't work on me habibi....
 
Thanks for your intellectual dishonesty.


Hmmm....All I need here is a middle finger smiley...But that would be stooping to your level wouldn't it....have a nice day Ikari.

j-mac
 
You have to watch it backwards and look for the subliminal messages. :thumbs:

Hahah, OK. But in all seriousness, I don't think the John Stewart thing was aimed at those who lost family members. Rather I think he was discussing the people who equate all Muslims to the Al-Queda type, the ones who insist this is a ground zero mosque when it's a few blocks away and a community center, etc. And those are valid. I think people can also be legitimately upset about it; but we have no legal recourse against it.
 
I don't see how you can separate the two. It's a cowardly way to mince words imo.

Of course you can. You can critque silly talking heads and fake outrage without insulting those who suffered loss on 9/11. In fact, i would be more insulted if you treated me as so unable to to see the difference and tried to remove all crititque becasue of my feelings. It's condesending. And too often, it has been dishonest.
 
So the State Department chooses who speaks for America's Muslims? Convenient.

I guess they do since they are sending him to the ME to raise the funds needed....ah, ahem......Speak to other Muslims about what it's like to be an American Muslim.....


j-mac
 
Hahah, OK. But in all seriousness, I don't think the John Stewart thing was aimed at those who lost family members. Rather I think he was discussing the people who equate all Muslims to the Al-Queda type, the ones who insist this is a ground zero mosque when it's a few blocks away and a community center, etc. And those are valid. I think people can also be legitimately upset about it; but we have no legal recourse against it.



You know I agree with you... they have every right to be assholes and put that mosque there..... That said. a sniveling Stewart can't call one group out without being sensetive to those who lost family in 911
 
Of course you can. You can critque silly talking heads and fake outrage without insulting those who suffered loss on 9/11. In fact, i would be more insulted if you treated me as so unable to to see the difference and tried to remove all crititque becasue of my feelings. It's condesending. And too often, it has been dishonest.



yes, the way you debate is all to often dishonest. :shrug:
 
Hmmm....All I need here is a middle finger smiley...But that would be stooping to your level wouldn't it....have a nice day Ikari.

j-mac

Stooping to my level? All I did was ask you to back up your claims you made against my posts and you couldn't do that and now you have to run away. Guess you've proven me right. Was it too much to ask for? You to back up that mouth running of yours? Too much? Too hard? So yes, you misrepresented my posts, I asked you to back them up, you couldn't. That's intellectual dishonesty because you originally made claims against me that were untrue and you haven't admitted it and you haven't proven your side; all you're trying to do is run away. So run, run as fast as you can. But you did misrepresent my posts and my intent and you could not back up your claims; so you are being intellectually dishonest. Q.E.D. Don't like it? Don't do it.
 
I guess they do since they are sending him to the ME to raise the funds needed....ah, ahem......Speak to other Muslims about what it's like to be an American Muslim.....


j-mac
So Muslims from all the states and territories got together and unanimously chose this man to speak for them?
 
Well its a South African Word which is basically our version of the N word. It has no other meaning.



/facepalm


it's "kafir" not "kaffir" the latter being a derogatory word used in S. Africa to describe black folk, nothing to do with what I have in my sig.
 
Is there anybody here that can summarize the main points, and main sides here? From what I gather we have -a few- sides on the issue.

-"for it because that is what America is about" side.
-"for it because who cares" side
-"for it because then we can turn it all into a joke and make a gay bar next to it" side


-"against it because that is what America is about" side.
-"against it because remember 9/11?" side
-"against because other countries don't do it (and we ALWAYS follow what other countries do)" side
-"against it because the middle east people woudldn't let us make a church" side
-"against it because I hate Islam and I think I'm a ****ing religious scholar" side
-"against it because I hate Islam, A-RABS, MEX-EE-CANS, and anybody else that smells like farts from time to time" side
 
Nevermind sorry. I thought the guy on the previous page was reffering to a post and not your sig.

Have a nice day :)
 
So Muslims from all the states and territories got together and unanimously chose this man to speak for them?


Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is at the center of efforts to build a mosque near the site of the September 11, 2001, attacks in New York. He is going to the Middle East on a trip funded by the State Department.

U.S. to send imam in ground zero debate to Middle East – Religion - CNN.com Blogs


Nope, Just the State Dept....That is all he needs.


j-mac
 
Is this where you stop trying to defend your position? Maybe Ikari can get a better response from you.




you know you bore the hell out of me boo, you should feel privileged I wasted this much time with you. :pimpdaddy:
 
-"for it because then we can turn it all into a joke and make a gay bar next to it" side
Now THERE'S an idea I can support!

Lord knows lower Manhattan needs another gay bar within walking distance, too ...
 
Nope, Just the State Dept....That is all he needs.


j-mac
Ah, so the State Department runs Islam in America. Gotcha.
 
I guess they do since they are sending him to the ME to raise the funds needed....ah, ahem......Speak to other Muslims about what it's like to be an American Muslim.....


j-mac

Did you happen to see the guy(think he was from the State Dept.)? Anyway he was ummming all over the place trying to explain why we were sending this guy to the ME on taxpayers dime. He was trying to say it's nothing unusual, though he failed as far I'm concerned.
 
Ah, so the State Department runs Islam in America. Gotcha.

I guess they feel they do....this is the stated mission.

“He is a distinguished Muslim cleric,” said State Department Spokesman P.J. Crowley. “We do have a program whereby, through our Educational and Cultural Affairs Bureau here at the State Department, we send people from Muslim communities here in this country around the world to help people overseas understand our society and the role of religion within our society.”

snip

“It is to foster greater understanding and outreach around the world, among… Muslim- majority communities,” said Crowley. “We've done this many, many times, with many leading figures… over the past few years.”

Confirmed: State Dept. Sending Ground Zero Mosque Imam on Middle East Junket | The Weekly Standard

so there you have it.


j-mac
 
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