Yes, but how big a statistical hit does it have on life expectancy? And so what frankly? They died, and does not matter how they died... they did not live as long as others.. that is the point of the freaking statistics. That is why life expectancy in say Iraq has fallen because they are killing each other.
And the US has 765 cars per 1000 people and the UK 450 cars per 1000 people.. and that some how should twist life expectancy numbers by so much? I doubt that. Luxembourg has similar car ownership stats as that of the US (697 vs 765) and their life expectancy is higher than that of the US. What is your next excuse, that the US is a large country?
Easy, you claim disposable income, and you show average income. Big difference. I can have a huge income but low disposable income because I have debt repayments and similar that eat up my income.
And even if American's have more disposable income, then why on earth would it not only give a rise to "risky behaviour" that could remotely impact the life expectancy numbers? Do you do more Russian roulette, more drinking (lol yea right) or more drugs...
And again frankly so what if it did? It is just an excuse, it changes nothing on the statistical comparison. You guys still dont live longer than brits, regardless of what kills you off. The Brits are slowly killing themselves with drinking, should we take that out of their statistics then?
Oh I do understand it, but you dont. The US is not that different than the UK when it comes to dietary norms or lifestyle. In fact I would claim the Brits have you beaten when it comes to drinking hands down.. they are a nation of binge drinkers, and their food staples are not exactly healthy by any means... bacon and eggs and beans for breakfast.. And since we are talking about the UK and US, then ...
As for Spain and France.. I did say that the Mediterranean diet could make a difference on some countries, but it does not with Northern European countries who beat the crap out of the US when it comes to health statistics.. even the Germans, the fattest nation in Europe. And even that is changing because the countries that had a traditional Mediterranean diet are moving more and more over to the US type of diet... which in fact most of Europe is doing.
No you choose to ignore facts because you dont believe your eyes. Not my fault. They are compatible on every front, since the differences are statistical non relevant.
On top of that I was not talking about infant mortality rates but child mortality of 5 and under. There is a difference.
With appropriate measurements you mean pro US measurements instead of unbiased fair measurements? I know the US right wing has the last 2 years done everything to try discredit the WHO and other statistical organisations because their stats showed the US in a bad light, but the fact is the right wing in the US is WRONG and have been caught in out right lies time and time again. Using lame excuses to dismiss WHO statistics is frankly pathetic.
Listen.. the numbers WHO get, come from your own government. Not my fault you dont agree with your own governments numbers. If you want to pad your own statistics to rank higher, then by all means do it. Take out the blacks, and hispanics and any other undisireables that hurt your statistics.. be my guest and turn into a new China when it comes to statistical numbers.. numbers that no one trusts or believe.
Heres a hint.. I know, I have worked in the business. And hint... it is always where cost cutting hits first. And yes the UK is having problems, but that is the UK.
And so what. We have a welfare state and we like it.. deal with it. We want UHC, and most sane and civilized countries want it also. It is cheaper if we all pitch in, instead of being egotistical and only think about one self. It is our choice and it has been a wise choice. We pay less and get the same if not more.. sounds like a great deal to me
No one waits for critical surgeries. More right wing propaganda. As for getting denied treatment. I would wager it happens less here than in the US. I have rarely heard of anyone being denied treatment here unless it was experimental treatment that was cost prohibitive. On the other hand stories of people being denied treatment in the US are common place.
No you loose yet again.
Half the statistics are made up on the spot? I provided links to almost all my statistics for god sake. Is it the 60% comment.. okay I take it back. It is only according to the US census about 16% that dont have insurance.
And do you pull your views out of thin air? You do know that most countries have maximum waiting list laws right? Cancer is within 2 to 3 weeks (depends on country), non serious is with in 3 months tops in most countries. So quarters and half years.. do not exist in most countries.
Need A Mammogram? It Could Take A While - TIME
And for the record.. US hospitals dont release waiting times to the public for the most part. I once found a statistic but it was behind a pay site of the American Hospital something..
But that does not mean there is no waiting times. It is only logical since the US has less and less hospitals and doctors but more and more people. Of course if you have enough money, then waiting times are not a problem.. same in Europe btw... if you have the money, then go to a private hospital if you dont want to wait a few weeks for an operation that is non life threatning. As for seeing specialists or doctors.. I can get access on a day to day basis to my doctor and get appointments with specialists within a weeks often (depends on what kind of course) for non critical issues. Critical issues of course give access immediately.
For example. My mother had some sores on her head that would not heal, so she went to her doctor who said that it might be skin cancer. 2 days later she was with a specialist and got diagnosed. They did preliminary treatment but she needed an operation on one part of the skin, so they gave her a choice of when to get her treatment and operation and it was within 3 weeks from diagnosed .. and yes it was not the bad kind of skin cancer so it did not need immediate treatment. Her cost.. about 5 euros of petrol and bottle of sparkly water or two. Had it been the serious kind, then she would have been admitted instantly and treated. Thank god it was not now.. now she has to walk around with a hat and factor 50 sun cream heh..
Point is.. she was not afraid of the cost of going to the doctor to get it looked at, so they caught it early.
