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White House apologizes to ousted official

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Man, imagine if she was in the tea party... that racist! :ssst:
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The scary part, is that she's not the only black bureaucrat that harbors those feelings. Whose ready for government healthcare?

Food for thought: when a bureuacrat like Sherrod deprives you of your rights, that person isn't going to ask if you are a Liberal, nor if you voted for Obama.
 
apdst said:
She admitted to being a racist and depriving a citizen of his rights, under the law. Not much excuse for that, either.

"I'm sorry", doesn't cut it.
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She didn't do that at all. She related a story from about 24 years ago, when she was not even working for the government, which detailed how she felt about helping a white guy, when black farmers were losing their farms in droves, and how she was able to put her feelings aside and help him, with the result that his farm was saved. IMHO, this was not racism at all, but a courageous speech which detailed how she was able to beat the demons that were haunting her. In the end, she did not deprive the white farmer his rights at all. SHE SAVED HIS DAMN FARM. Brietbart's edited and doctored version of the speech is the racist one.
 
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danarhea said:
She didn't do that at all. She related a story from about 24 years ago, when she was not even working for the government, which detailed how she felt about helping a white guy, when black farmers were losing their farms in droves, and how she was able to put her feelings aside and help him, with the result that his farm was saved. IMHO, this was not racism at all, but a courageous speech which detailed how she was able to beat the demons that were haunting her. In the end, she did not deprive the white farmer his rights at all. SHE SAVED HIS DAMN FARM. Brietbart's edited and doctored version of the speech is the racist one.
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She was trying to help him when she, "sent to his own kind"?
 
liblady said:
yes, they did. i agree. and right wing media misused their power to get it to happen.
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I don't think anyone realized that it was going to happen. All that happened was the release of a video.

Mellie said:
Of course. He wasn't given the entire speech.
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danarhea said:
Actually, he did have access to the entire speech, but chose to heavily edit it, and then disseminated it as the original speech. No excuse whatsoever for that.
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We'll probably never know the full story of what happened. But I find it kind of hard to believe that he would release the edited tapes if he knew that when the rest was revealed, he'd be discredited and embarrased.

liblady said:
are you ignoring the fact that he has a long history of misleading people? why?
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What, Breitbart? He has a long history of releasing tapes that shed light on an otherwise unreported situation. Sometimes there's more to the story than there appears to be, either because he didn't have all the facts or because he was being misleading (again, we may never know). Sometimes it's just what it looks like, or close enough to what it looks like that light needed to be shed on the situation. Breitbart himself is only the messenger. Manipulative he may be, but he's about 20x better at his job than every other journalist in existence today. I've heard many liberals complain that there aren't enough investigative journalists like Bob Woodward today, and to a small extent, they're right; but then someone like Breitbart does the job for them, and they despise him. Breitbart himself is the symbol of what new media has made possible, and how journalism can transition into the new environment.
 
liblady said:
yes, they did. i agree. and right wing media misused their power to get it to happen.
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*hands you more wool*

Since when does our government give a **** about what is said in some media-source?

If Fox and right-ers *had* some sort of influential POWER then don't you think they'd've made full use of it to KEEP Obama from the presidency?
 
You would have thunk that the media would have learned their lesson when Breitbart posted those heavily edited and completely misleading Acorn videos. But oh no, they made the same stupid asinine mistake once again. Both out-of-context and fabricated videos have lead the the downfall of one organization and the dismissal of another person. I shake my head at the craziness of it all. It just goes to show you have people can be so easily duped.
 
MaggieD said:
LibLady -- I know how deeply you felt about this issue -- I could feel your passion in your posts. I'm glad the White House apologized...a very unusual thing for the White House to do in any circumstance. I do have to wonder -- what were they apologizing for? Anyone know? It was my understanding that she was fired by her immediate supervisor....with calls from Washington to "handle it."

I'm not sure how I personally feel about it -- because I understood her dismissal. But, in the scheme of things, it's just not that important now that it's resolved.

One thing I am sure of is that had this been a white woman relating her experience in the same exact way, she'd be forever toast. We still have that double standard, I'm thinkin'.
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I don't think so. I'd like to believe that fairness given the facts would have ruled the day. We have to remember that we all relied on a heavily edited video tape that not only showed Mrs. Sheddon's actions in present-day which was incorrect but also failed to illustrate and expand on the fact that:

1. The act in question occurred long before she was employed by the USDA.

2. That Mrs. Sheddon's speech was all about racial unity.

3. That the man she initially mistreated did receive the full benefit of her professional service which even he (and his wife) has stated that her actions directly helped him to save his farm.

This incident was racially polorized; I don't think anyone can deny that. But I'd like to think that all things being equal, if this exact same thing had happened to a white woman, everyone involved with mischaracterizing her or getting her fired would be issuing her an apology.
 
@ Objective Voice -- I'd like to think so, too. But I don't. It's the world we live in, I'm afraid.
 
Middleground said:
ACORN, for one.
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I hear a lot of "the media did it!" - but not much "the people got theirselves into their sitautions by saying what they said - doing what they did"

Personal accountability, anyone?
 
apdst said:
She admitted to being a racist and depriving a citizen of his rights, under the law. Not much excuse for that, either.

"I'm sorry", doesn't cut it.
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I'm waiting for the NAACP to apologize for applauding the initial discrimination she described.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
I hear a lot of "the media did it!" - but not much "the people got theirselves into their sitautions by saying what they said - doing what they did"

Personal accountability, anyone?
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And the lib says "how do you spell that"?
 
Aunt Spiker said:
I hear a lot of "the media did it!" - but not much "the people got theirselves into their sitautions by saying what they said - doing what they did"

Personal accountability, anyone?
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What people... the employees of ACORN? If so, are you aware that the video were heavily doctored to the point where it was completely and utterly misleading?
 
Objective Voice said:
I don't think so. I'd like to believe that fairness given the facts would have ruled the day. We have to remember that we all relied on a heavily edited video tape that not only showed Mrs. Sheddon's actions in present-day which was incorrect but also failed to illustrate and expand on the fact that:

1. The act in question occurred long before she was employed by the USDA.

2. That Mrs. Sheddon's speech was all about racial unity.

3. That the man she initially mistreated did receive the full benefit of her professional service which even he (and his wife) has stated that her actions directly helped him to save his farm.

This incident was racially polorized; I don't think anyone can deny that. But I'd like to think that all things being equal, if this exact same thing had happened to a white woman, everyone involved with mischaracterizing her or getting her fired would be issuing her an apology.
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And the White House put pressure on for her to be fired. :lamo
 
Middleground said:
What people... the employees of ACORN? If so, are you aware that the video were heavily doctored to the point where it was completely and utterly misleading?
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Got reliable proof? Or are you just hijacking a thread?
 
Usually when I apologize to someone I say "Im sorry for my actions or behavior that caused you harm". I dont really thin..."something bad happened and we apologize about that" really equals an admission of responsibility and an apology. Nor does saying "well, we wuz tricked and thats why we reacted the way we did" qualify much as an apology.

I suspect its all just going to get very ugly...

 
Middleground said:
You would have thunk that the media would have learned their lesson when Breitbart posted those heavily edited and completely misleading Acorn videos. But oh no, they made the same stupid asinine mistake once again. Both out-of-context and fabricated videos have lead the the downfall of one organization and the dismissal of another person. I shake my head at the craziness of it all. It just goes to show you have people can be so easily duped.
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This is known as "shoot the messenger".
All Breitbart did was provide tapes. What "the media" was supposed to do about this, I don't know. Their job, supposedly, is to report what happened objectively, which would mean just showing the actual tapes. To not report them because they don't like the guy who provided it would be a gross violation of media ethics.

Incidentally, Breitbart is the kind of investigative journalist that Bob Woodward only dreams of himself as, and the world needs more people like him. And you'd have to prove that every single tape he provided regarding ACORN was fabricated/manipulated/taken out of context before you'd have a good argument that he didn't do a better job at shedding light on a seedy organization than any other so-called journalist.
 
Crunch said:
And the White House put pressure on for her to be fired. :lamo
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I completely agree with you. But the difference here is that Obama manned up and apologized, and so did the NAACP. Still waiting for FOX News and Breitbart to do the same.
 
They've made an effort to clarify the situation - why should they apologize? they were going on the truncated tape and that's all they had.

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I'm not apologizing - I still see her as a racist bitch who got away with it.
 
Bahaha... okay, I just have to share this comment on a conservative blog's post about this. I swear it's not said with any hint of sarcasm.

Thank God for Glenn Beck, the reasoned voice of Conservatism.

Not a partisan hack like Breitbart….
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VanceMack said:
Usually when I apologize to someone I say "Im sorry for my actions or behavior that caused you harm". I don't really thin..."something bad happened and we apologize about that" really equals an admission of responsibility and an apology. Nor does saying "well, we wuz tricked and thats why we reacted the way we did" qualify much as an apology.

I suspect its all just going to get very ugly...

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Thanks, as Brietbart says....it was posted to show the bigotry of the Naacp. They applauded her discrimination comments.

They have yet to acknowledge that. She may have overcome her bigotry, but they have not.

Just because the libs throw a stick, doesn't mean you have to chase it.
 
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Dav said:
Bahaha... okay, I just have to share this comment on a conservative blog's post about this. I swear it's not said with any hint of sarcasm.
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The last best voice of reason for Conservatives died a while back.

God Bless William F. Buckley Jr. We miss him.
 
Dav said:
Bahaha... okay, I just have to share this comment on a conservative blog's post about this. I swear it's not said with any hint of sarcasm.
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This is it. This is the moment I lost my sanity.
 
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