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Europe Warns Obama: This Relationship Is Not Working

Your Star said:
And the fact that McCain picked her as VP made me suspect he had Alzheimer's.
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*hop into my time machine*

The *only* two reasons why he picked her is because she was in the pocket of big oil - in a big way . . . *and* he was trying to distract from the Obama camp fervor.

He was so blinded by these things that he truly didn't even care that her daughter was all sorts of knocked up - or that she was a genuine moron.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
*hop into my time machine*

The *only* two reasons why he picked her is because she was in the pocket of big oil - in a big way . . . *and* he was trying to distract from the Obama camp fervor.

He was so blinded by these things that he truly didn't even care that her daughter was all sorts of knocked up - or that she was a genuine moron.
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And I repeat, you think Biden was a better pick?
 
paris said:
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Great video of all the NON-News shows on fox. Those are talk shows.
The memos etc. Sure, they're conservative. Are you telling me CNN, ABC, MSNBC are not liberal? Please.
 
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Deuce said:
Given the GOP's interference on every single issue of significance, this does not come as a surprise.
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Ah......ITS' BUSH'S FAULT!!!!
 
Rightwingnutjob said:
That's plain ignorant. Many of the articles on Fox news are from the AP. Crawl back under your rock now.
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I could care less, they are a right wing propaganda tool. Its no conicidence that their news team is littered with former Bush administration employees. Great, they show stories from the AP somehwere between the ranting, lying, festering diatribes of Hannity, Beck and O'Riley.

I've got in the habit of counting how many times a Republican senator is caught in a sex scandal and Fox news "accidentally" labels them (D) instead of properly labeling them (R) and its up to about 5 now. In fact, they've done it every single time for the last 5 sex scandals.
 
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The Dane said:
I've got in the habit of counting how many times a Republican senator is caught in a sex scandal and Fox news "accidentally" labels them (D) instead of properly labeling them (R) and its up to about 5 now. In fact, they've done it every single time for the last 5 sex scandals.
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Can you name those 5 scandals and show evidence against Fox? I'm only aware of one such incident and it was quickly corrected.
 
Hicup said:
Hehe.. Although, I like Sarah personally, she's not Presidential IMO. I know that will piss off a lot of conservatives, but I happen to think it's true.

Tim-
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I don't like conservatives, but this is an insult to them.
Most conservatives do not get pissed off by the suggestion that Palin "isn't presidential material".
Most conservatives agree (the ones with three-digit IQs, anyway).
 
1069 said:
I don't like conservatives, but this is an insult to them.
Most conservatives do not get pissed off by the suggestion that Palin "isn't presidential material".
Most conservatives agree (the ones with three-digit IQs, anyway).
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This is an insult to those who would disagree with you. We don't like you either :)
 
Rightwingnutjob said:
To think, I remember hearing so many people justify their vote for Obama based on foreign policy. Maybe not as much of an improvement there after all? I'll report you decide (ha, see what I did there?)!
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It's friggin' hilarious. The Europeans got EXACTLY the president they wanted the most, someone who hates America, and now they're discovering that, naturally, the incompetent boob isn't doing anything great for them, either, and they're complaining.

Maybe Europe should say as much about US elections as we say about the petty pisant elections they have? Europe should mind it's own business and butt out of ours?

If they do that, we'll promise to not go take sides in the next petty war they have.
 
Deuce said:
Given the GOP's interference on every single issue of significance, this does not come as a surprise.
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So, with overwhelming majorities in both Houses and the White House too, the Democrats have to blame the GOP for their failure to do anything useful?

That's comical that you're still saying this two years into the Messiah's regime.
 
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Ah - so now we've gone from "GOP's interference on every single issue of significance" to its stance on probably the least most significant issue in the OP - reducing greenhouse emissions. It is true that Republicans aren't fans of Cap and Trade, but is also true that the Dems couldn't agree on Cap and Trade among themselves. Further - it's also true that had the proposed legislation passed, we still would be at odds with Europe on that issue (in line with the "expectations too high" comment from the admin).

Now.. how about the real issues of significance at the G20. Obama's insistence that the world "stay the course" on economic stimulus. What about trade reform?

How is the GOP to blame in reference to Sarkozy's recent remark:
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Quit while you're behind Deuce
 
mpg said:
Can you name those 5 scandals and show evidence against Fox? I'm only aware of one such incident and it was quickly corrected.
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They even have the AUDACITY to make the same mistake several times. I will have to make a correction to my statement, it was not 5 SEXUAL scandals, it was simply instances where they labeled them democrat. However, they have done this dozens and dozens of times and always when it would be convenient for that particular Republican to suddenly be a democrat.
 
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Deuce said:
Cap and Trade - GOP goes the "OMG NOT OUR MONEY" route and we end up with watered down semblence of pollution control. If anything passes at all, they're talking about dropping the "cap" part entirely.
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Again, explain how the GOP could have stopped Cap and Trade, when the Democrats had a filibuster proof majority for over a year?

Nope, can't blame the GOP for not supporting a plan that has nothing to do with pollution and everything to do with socialistic wealth transfers.

And you simply can't blame the GOP for any bill the Democrats fail to pass. That's all their is to that.
 
The Dane said:
They even have the AUDACITY to make the same mistake several times. I will have to make a correction to my statement, it was not 5 SEXUAL scandals, it was simply instances where they labeled them democrat. However, they have done this dozens and dozens of times and always when it would be convenient for that particular Republican to suddenly be a democrat.
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Not only did you fail miserably to prove they did any of those on purpose but you repated Sanford.

Thanks for staying firmly in the far left wing looney bin.
 
texmaster said:
Not only did you fail miserably to prove they did any of those on purpose but you repated Sanford.

Thanks for staying firmly in the far left wing looney bin.
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I repeated Sanford? No, Fox news repeated Sanford. If they choose to label him a democrat twice, then that counts as TWO. They don't get the luxary of getting away with it simply because they've done it before.
 
The Dane said:
They even have the AUDACITY to make the same mistake several times. I will have to make a correction to my statement, it was not 5 SEXUAL scandals, it was simply instances where they labeled them democrat. However, they have done this dozens and dozens of times and always when it would be convenient for that particular Republican to suddenly be a democrat.
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Only two of those involve scandals. The other four show how easy it is to make an honest mistake. Don't get me wrong, Fox is obviously a Republican network, but your attempt to show it backfired.
 
mpg said:
Only two of those involve scandals. The other four show how easy it is to make an honest mistake. Don't get me wrong, Fox is obviously a Republican network, but your attempt to show it backfired.
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Its not an honest mistake, no other news networks have made these mistakes.
 
The Dane said:
Its not an honest mistake, no other news networks have made these mistakes.
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Four of those neither helped nor hurt anyone so why would anyone think that they were anything but honest mistakes? How do you know that no other networks have made these mistakes?
 
Deuce said:
Given the GOP's interference on every single issue of significance, this does not come as a surprise.
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That has to be the stupid post of the day, considering that you dems had a majority in both houses for over a year and could pass any damned piece of **** bill you wanted to...... It was really the constant interference of the dems on every single issue of significance. :roll:
 
The U.S. defended itself forcefully against claims that it had neglected Europe.

“Expectations were probably so high that they could not have been met when you looked at the European response to the election,” a senior official in the Administration said.

The view from Washington is that communication with Europe on a range of crucial issues is difficult because the EU still lacks “a clear foreign policy apparatus.”
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I am so sick of Europe's institutions, governments and organizations behaving as if we exist to please or cater to them. Americans have been bleeding for near one hundred years over the course of an entire century to do what Europeans could not do for themselves. Two World Wars and a Cold War began in Europe and sucked Americans in, because their inability to behave in order to secure their region ultimately threatened our security. For ten years they have done their absolute best to keep out of danger in Afghanistan while pretending to be active participants and today the EU accuses us of neglecting them?

We immediately jumped on Bail Out programs to dig ourselves and the world out of the economic melt down while European nations criticized our moves and their citizens mocked us and painted an ignorant picture of the "beginning of the end." Now that we are bouncing, we are supposed to rush to their aid? Perhaps they should have jumped on their crisis when we jumped on ours instead of investing so much energy being European. Instead, the EU, which merely caulks over the cracks between Europe's nations, argued over who to screw over and who to support. The friction between Germany, France and the rest was obvious in terms of economic direction (if not historically). They can't even get on the same page, but the U.S. is supposed to jump in and referee them or sort it out for them? Sound familiar?

They feel slighted about global warming? Or any other thing? It's the same old crap. Their feelings are hurt because we haven't given them their proper attention or made them feel important. Can they blame us? They sat out an entire Cold War and still have problems figuring out that the party is over. We make them equal partners in the Iran/nuclear issue and they have performed miserably. We pathetically seek to label every action in Afghanistan a "NATO" action to include them even though it should be labeled an American/British/Canadian action (or simply an English speaking nation action).

Europe's governments want so badly to matter more than they do that they exaggerate American misteps and insist on being consulted on everything. So much so, that any decision made by America without their consent is seen as an insult or "neglect." Who the hell are they again? The great empires that brought such golden hits like Colonialism, World Wars, and national self-righteous indignation find themselves behind the power curve and in the dark? Too bad. Step up or shut the **** up. I guess President Obama isn't the European hero they imagined. From Clinton to Bush to Obama we have seen something in common in relation to Europe - the desire to make them self-reliant and secure so we can move on. This feeling of neglect is actually in reaction to the babysitter's time almost being up.
 
MSNBC has a liberal bias, but they do not intentionally try to distort facts. This is well known and it is a mistake to assume that if one side of the political isel has a propaganda machine then the other must as well.
 
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