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Official: Gulf spill could be contained by Monday

apdst said:
Obama's been promoting failure since the day the well blew out.
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Yes, yes, Obama is out to destroy America. You, specifically, apdst. He's coming for you. Quick, hide!
 
505 said:
Not just good news, this is GREAT news. The gov was back and forth all week on whether or not they were even going to allow the swap. Why, I can not figure out.

I have seen pics of some of the new proposed containment caps and they are all MUCH better than what is on there now. With a hard seal to the BOP, the column of mud they will be able to achieve during bottom kill is going to be a few thousand feet taller, allowing them to use a lower mud weight. If it wasn't already before, bottom kill is definitely a lock now.
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They should have had the replacement hat ready to install before they pulled the old LMRC hat. Recovering half as much oil during the three days open time is far better than recovering none... Doesn't instill much confidence in their know how, does it?

ricksfolly
 
j-mac said:
Are we sure that Obama won't block this latest effort in some way? I mean, there has to be tons of impact studies done first right?


j-mac
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The longer the spill goes on, the worse the President looks. Between the armada of BP pencil pushers and a few strings pulled by the President, I'm sure there won't be any red tape in the way of good press for Obama.
 
If all goes according to plan, the combination of the cap and the new vessel could collect all the leaking oil by Monday.
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This is great news, and I truly hope it works as planned.

However, just about an hour ago, BP announced that it would take four to seven days to complete the work of fitting/securing the new cap. This doesn't sound good, folks.

:(
 
Jerry said:
4 to 7 days as opposed to 4 years to let the well bleed dry on it's own isn't good news?
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:roll:

Originally, BP said the job would most likely be finished by tomorrow.

Today, they're saying maybe Thursday, maybe a week from today.

BP's assessment of its ability to handle this disaster of their own making has been in question from day one. Today's announcement is one more example of their guile. They have misrepresented everything they've done thus far, and have proven themselves utterly incapable of honesty through their words, and completely lacking in planning and foresight in their craft.

Pardon me if I have no faith in BP's honesty or ability throughout this entire event.
 
Glinda said:
:roll:

Originally, BP said the job would most likely be finished by tomorrow.

Today, they're saying maybe Thursday, maybe a week from today.

BP's assessment of its ability to handle this disaster of their own making has been in question from day one. Today's announcement is one more example of their guile. They have misrepresented everything they've done thus far, and have proven themselves utterly incapable of honesty through their words, and completely lacking in planning and foresight in their craft.

Pardon me if I have no faith in BP's honesty or ability throughout this entire event.
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Er, no, "originally" BP did not have control of the spill at all, and before this story no one was expecting a solution until August. 4-7 days from today seems pretty good.
 
Jerry said:
Er, no, "originally" BP did not have control of the spill at all, and before this story no one was expecting a solution until August. 4-7 days from today seems pretty good.
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I recommend reading the OP and/or the title of this thread. It will help you to avoid appearing like a fool.

BP's original assessment of success in fitting the new cap:

If all goes according to plan, the combination of the cap and the new vessel could collect all the leaking oil by Monday.
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That assessment has now been walked back four to seven more days.


Jesus. :roll:
 
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If BP say Tomorrow, I would take that as being this year, next year, sometime, maybe.
If The Obama administration was saying this, i would refer everyone to whatever BP is saying.
 
This particular bit of news was printed on 06/15/10
Link
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...t-of-oil-spilling-per-day-by-months-en?page=2


Quote(White House says it could contain 90 percent of spilling oil
By Michael O'Brien - 06/15/10 07:27 AM ET

The Obama administration's plan to contain oil leaking from a deepwater pipeline could be sucking up as much as 90 percent of the spewing oil by the end of June.
White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Tuesday that the strategy BP is pursuing — at the behest of the federal government — will have a high efficiency rate in containing the oil spill by the time the end of this month rolls around.)

The saying "The best laid plans of mice and men" springs to mind.
 
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Glinda said:
I recommend reading the OP and/or the title of this thread. It will help you to avoid appearing like a fool.
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Yes well this "fool" keeps everything in proper context:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/envir...er-whether-bp-capable-handling-oil-spill.html

http://www.debatepolitics.com/envir.../73075-one-way-solve-surface-oil-problem.html

http://www.debatepolitics.com/envir...3619-top-kill-seems-have-made-leak-worse.html

http://www.debatepolitics.com/envir...a-order-switch-less-toxic-oil-dispersant.html

Environment & Climate Issues

Etc, etc, etc.


BP's original assessment of success in fitting the new cap:



That assessment has now been walked back four to seven more days.


Jesus. :roll:
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Right, and that's not bad news. The spill being under control in 4-7 days is not bad news.

I swear you're like a game show contestant who gets bummed out when they fail the final question and walk away with "only" $100,000 instead of the million. they didn't lose $900,000 because they didn't have a million in the first place. They walked out of the studeo $100,000 richer. That's not a loose. That's a gain. Just ask their IRS agent.

Likewise this spill was not under control before BP revised their time-line to then get upset about it.
 
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Glinda said:
Obama and team's assessment of its ability to handle this disaster has been in question from day one. Today's announcement is one more example of their guile. They have misrepresented everything they've done thus far, and have proven themselves utterly incapable of honesty through their words, and completely lacking in planning and foresight in their craft.

Pardon me if I have no faith in Obama and team's honesty or ability throughout this entire event.
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There, this fits as well....


j-mac
 
Link to latest news.
FT.com / US & Canada - New BP oil well cap to take days to fit

Quote(New BP oil well cap to take days to fit

By Ed Crooks

Published: July 11 2010 16:02 | Last updated: July 11 2010 16:02

BP will take until Wednesday at the earliest to fit the new sealing cap to its leaking Macondo well in the Gulf of Mexico, the company said on Sunday.

The new 80-ton cap is intended to allow all the oil spewing from the well to be captured by vessels on the surface, and could allow the flow to be stopped altogether by closing off valves. It will also help with the operation to kill the leaking well using one of two relief wells.

However, while it is being fitted, the flow of oil into the water from the blown-out well will increase by thousands of barrels per day.

Kent Wells, BP’s senior vice-president who is the company’s public face for the effort to plug the well, remained cautious over the weekend about whether the cap could allow the Macondo well to be shut in, and about when the relief wells – seen as the only long-term solution to the leak – might be effective.)

As I said previously!
The best laid plans of Mice and men!
 
New cap is on.

!!!!!
 
505 said:
New cap is on.

!!!!!
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Good, but it will still leak. Live shots shows it gushing out of a lower part of the BOP, below the cap.

They finally revealed the gas pressure they were expecting inside the cap to see if it works, 8,000 to 9,000 PSI...

To give you some idea of what that means, try to stop your spurting garden hose with your finger... and that's only around 90 psi... a 100 times less.

ricksfolly
 
Oh look, they capped the oil spill....and the world didn't end. Wow who wouldv'e figured.

Oh waite, I figured. Carry on.
 
washingtonpost.com: "Gulf Oil Spill Response Mismanaged, Presidential Panel Says"

Spill Panel Finds U.S. Was Slow to React - WSJ.com

obama's own commission, criticized upon its creation for comprising too many activists and politicos and not enough technical expertise

the response to the spill exposed a white house either "not fully competent or not fully candid with the american people"

the president's own spill panel also takes the task force (allen, browner, salazar) to task for its claim, after the cap was finally sealed, that 3/4 of the damage was "gone"

an "over optimism may have affected the scale and speed" of response

"despite acknowledged inaccuracies and better methodologies" of measuring the exhaust, the white house stubbornly stuck with numbers which the panel LOL'd when the white assured us they were "peer reviewed"

nothing none of us didn't personally witness just a few months ago, another epic example of utter incompetence

still, it's somewhat surprising to see it put in writing

and from such a source
 
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The Prof said:
the response to the spill exposed a white house either "not fully competent or not fully candid with the american people"
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You really should keep up with the media, not just throw political mud and hope it sticks.

The fault was BPs because the last leak fix showed they could just pull the BOP and replace it.

Why they didn't do the same thing with the first BOP and prevent the huge oil spill, the start is still a mystery.

ricksfolly
 
ricksfolly said:
You really should keep up with the media, not just throw political mud and hope it sticks.

The fault was BPs because the last leak fix showed they could just pull the BOP and replace it.

Why they didn't do the same thing with the first BOP and prevent the huge oil spill, the start is still a mystery.

ricksfolly
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tell it to OBAMA'S own appointed spill panel
 
ricksfolly said:
You really should keep up with the media, not just throw political mud and hope it sticks.

The fault was BPs because the last leak fix showed they could just pull the BOP and replace it.

Why they didn't do the same thing with the first BOP and prevent the huge oil spill, the start is still a mystery.

ricksfolly
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They didn't pull the BOP and replace it. They put another one on top of the old one. It's also not that much of a mystery why they didn't do that in the first place. BP is a bureaucratic nightmare of a place, and that was before the federal government moved in. Decisions are made at the pace of a dead snail.
 
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