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Federal Gay Marriage Ban Is Ruled Unconstitutional

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liblady said:
he's a nixon appointee.....what are his decisions that you think are liberal? he's a vet, btw.
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It's just another unsubstantiated claim. It's standard practice, when in doubt, blame liberals.
 
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rivrrat said:
He did something Navy disagrees with, therefore he must be an evil liberal


with an agenda


who hates our military
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Why do you hate our country my left wing friend? :lol:
 
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Redress said:
Nixon was known for his love of Liberal judges. That is why he appointed Joseph Tauro.
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I liked Nixon he gave us in the military some great pay raises but he was no Conservative..........Bush 1 apppointed one of the biggest libs of all time to the SCOTUS David Soutar..........your point is?:confused:
 
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Navy Pride said:
I liked Nixon he gave us in the military some great pay raises but he was no Conservative..........Bush 1 apppointed one of the biggest libs of all time to the SCOTUS David Soutar..........your point is?:confused:
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My point is your claiming he is a liberal is meaningless. What makes him a liberal?
 
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rivrrat said:
He did something Navy disagrees with, therefore he must be an evil liberal


with an agenda


who hates our military
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You know better then that............Where you been? Have not seen you in a long time.....I hope your well........
 
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Redress said:
Why do you hate our country my left wing friend? :lol:
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I'm guessing it's because I wasn't forced to recite the pledge of allegiance enough.
 
Zyphlin said:
Gender discrimination is equally as unconstitutional as Racial discrimination in this country.
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Sorry, but that's just plain wrong - in practice and in law.

I'm not aware of any laws that require people of a certain race to register with the government and keep apprised of address changes - although they legally "discriminate based on gender" by requiring men to do this under selective service.

If you look into equal protection law, you'll see differences in how it's applied to race as opposed to gender. See for example rational basis review vs. strict scrutiny.

Gender discrimination is allowable if it serves a "legitimate interest" - racial discrimination must show "compelling government interest," be "narrowly tailored" and be the "least restrictive means" of achieving said interest.
 
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Navy Pride said:
I liked Nixon he gave us in the military some great pay raises but he was no Conservative..........Bush 1 apppointed one of the biggest libs of all time to the SCOTUS David Soutar..........your point is?:confused:
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So if he wasn't a conservative what was he? Liberal or moderate? Doesn't that prove not all liberals/moderates hate the military?
 
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Redress said:
My point is your claiming he is a liberal is meaningless. What makes him a liberal?
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His decision on this case and other cases he has ruled on.............I just posted what politico (hardly a right wing site) said when the decision was rendered
 
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digsbe said:
So if he wasn't a conservative what was he? Liberal or moderate? Doesn't that prove not all liberals/moderates hate the military?
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I believe you would classify Nixon as a moderate...........
 
Taylor said:
Sorry, but that's just plain wrong - in practice and in law.

I'm not aware of any laws that require people of a certain race to register with the government and keep apprised of address changes - although they legally "discriminate based on gender" by requiring men to do this under selective service.

If you look into equal protection law, you'll see differences in how it's applied to race as opposed to gender. See for example rational basis review vs. strict scrutiny.

Gender discrimination is allowable if it serves a "legitimate interest" - racial discrimination must show "compelling government interest," be "narrowly tailored" and be the "least restrictive means" of achieving said interest.
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Just because discrimination happens currently (ala the military) doesn't mean it's *right*. Hence the disagreement and move for change.


Navy Pride said:
You know better then that............Where you been? Have not seen you in a long time.....I hope your well........
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I've been around, just not in the same threads as you, I guess. LOL
 
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Navy Pride said:
His decision on this case and other cases he has ruled on.............I just posted what politico (hardly a right wing site) said when the decision was rendered
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What cases? Where did Politico say it? Come one Navy, support your claim.
 
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Navy Pride said:
I believe you would classify Nixon as a moderate...........
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So then a moderate supported our military? :shock:
 
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Redress said:
What cases? Where did Politico say it? Come one Navy, support your claim.
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I will try and find it in politico.............it was a week ago when the decision was rendered............Right now I am fighting the good fight with a half dozen of you liberals on different threads and don't want to get to far behind............In any case you will see that the circuit court will throw this decision in the trash where it belongs.................
 
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rivrrat said:
He did something Navy disagrees with, therefore he must be an evil liberal


with an agenda


who hates our military
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of course. i forgot.
 
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digsbe said:
So then a moderate supported our military? :shock:
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sure, a lot of moderates did........I voted for Nixon a moderate twice............
 
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Navy Pride said:
I will try and find it in politico.............it was a week ago when the decision was rendered............Right now I am fighting the good fight with a half dozen of you liberals on different threads and don't want to get to far behind............In any case you will see that the circuit court will throw this decision in the trash where it belongs.................
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Here is an easy one: when did states rights become a liberal issue?
 
rivrrat said:
Just because discrimination happens currently (ala the military) doesn't mean it's *right*. Hence the disagreement and move for change.
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I'm replying to the statement "Gender discrimination is equally as unconstitutional as Racial discrimination in this country." -- which is not true.

If you want to claim that gender-based marriage discrimination isn't "right" - there are better arguments than comparisons to black-white marriage.
 
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Navy Pride said:
His decision on this case and other cases he has ruled on.............I just posted what politico (hardly a right wing site) said when the decision was rendered
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in other words, you don't know of any cases aside from this one.
 
Taylor said:
I'm replying to the statement "Gender discrimination is equally as unconstitutional as Racial discrimination in this country." -- which is not true.
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But it IS true. Just because our government practices it, doesn't make it any less unconstitutional. It was unconstitutional when we practiced racial discrimination, and it's unconstitutional when we practice gender discrimination.
 
rivrrat said:
But it IS true. Just because our government practices it, doesn't make it any less unconstitutional. It was unconstitutional when we practiced racial discrimination, and it's unconstitutional when we practice gender discrimination.
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Not allowing homosexual marriage is not gender discrimination. Should we remove all male/female bathrooms? Is that gender discrimination?
 
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Redress said:
Here is an easy one: when did states rights become a liberal issue?
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When it involves allowing gay marriages, ending the nationwide prohibition of drugs, and allowing State's to determine which immigrants can be viewed as legal residents of said state, that's when!


(essentially State's rights are "liberal" whenever it involves a topic that I regularly get called a "leftist" on.)
 
rivrrat said:
But it IS true. Just because our government practices it, doesn't make it any less unconstitutional. It was unconstitutional when we practiced racial discrimination, and it's unconstitutional when we practice gender discrimination.
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You're making a circular argument. It's unconstitutional because it's unconstitutional.
 
digsbe said:
Not allowing homosexual marriage is not gender discrimination. Should we remove all male/female bathrooms? Is that gender discrimination?
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It *is* gender discrimination. The question is whether or not the discrimination is legal. The law discriminates in many ways which are perfectly acceptable and reasonable.
 
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