As for your statement on the war being waged, yes i agree. We need to set up a legitimate system and weaken the enemy to the point where we CAN pull out and CAN be contained in a reasonable manner. This IS a war that cannot be inevitably won.
No, I mean, it is meant to be a PERPETUAL war... much like in 1984 how they were always at war with eastasia or eurasia... there was never any way to 'win' the wars, they aren't MEANT to be won. It's merely the 'meat grinder'. That there are 'side benefits' of resources in most of the countries we wage war with is really a side issue... that's why McChrystal was replaced... he wanted enough soldiers to actually WIN the war in afghanistan... DENIED. Yes, there was the media show, but look at what was going on just prior to the hyped up media frenzy, that's what was REALLY going on.
But we are not seeking to win a war, we are attempting to create order.
Yes, we're trying to impose the anglo-american world order on those who already had their own sovereign form of order imposed. Does that make them 'the good guys' no... more like it's several colors of 'bad sides'... which I'll address next :
As for Operation paperclip. I have read about that. I don;t see how that has relevance on the current border issue though. From what i understand we contained Nazi SCIENTISTS for fear of the Soviet union taking them and using them to create Super-Weapons (Much more sensitive issue at the time.). And again i don't believe we should shoot on sight. I was just making a point that comparing border control and drug cartels in todays era (Where citizenship can be acquired) to Nazi germany, was completely irrelevant.
It has nothing to do with the border issue per-se, more to do with the 'nazi' analogies... if you have studied operation paperclip, then you have an idea about how the elite scientists from the nazi's avoided prosecution and were shipped over to the american side... so, it's not very much of a stretch to say that america has become the continuation of the nazi regime, except with a different strategy.
The drug war is a whole different thing. If they want to militarize sections of the border where they are literally getting armed gangs, hey, fine by me.
SO long as you're not allowing these drug gangs to gain foothold in american territories.
Yeah, decriminalization is the way to go. Same reasoning as I have with illegal immigration. Enforcement alone just can't tackle a problem of that scale. You need incentive structures working in your favor or you fail.
No, we need a several pronged approach :
a) decriminalize the drugs to eliminate the black market
b) a millitary sweep of those drug movers in arizona and other border states
c) enforcement of all immigration laws on the books, targeting business owners primarily.
d) freeze all assets going to mexico for a 6 month period while this is going on
I'm sure more could be ADDED to the list of things that need to be done...
Now, MOST IMPORTANTLY : the feds are NOT going to do ANY OF THIS!!!
SO, we need to discuss solutions as they can be forwarded to the state congresses in all affected states as to how they can implement proper state strategies to solve the problems on their own.
Any federal government strategy is hot air, because the feds DO NOT WANT to solve the problem in ANY way other then blanket amnesty, which would contain language tying US, Canada and Mexico into something like the european union. It's all in the SPP documents.