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Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless

obvious Child said:
All he's good for is some laughs. Really, the fact that he doesn't understand that pointing to raw data that doesn't identify the cause of the results as proof that only his argument about a specific policy is true is pretty amusing, but also a sign of just how bad public schools are in America.

It's like pulling all of the raw, unprocessed data from Walmart's servers and saying that Walmart is doing well because kids like blue toys. Huh? Conservative is good for a few laughs. And that's about it.
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omg thank you..
 
Gabriel said:
[video]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/37936669#37936669[/video]
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Judge Martin Feldman in Gulf Oil Spill Case Sells Oil Company Stocks


After his ruling, it emerged that Feldman, who was appointed to the bench by President Ronald Reagan, has owned stock in several oil and energy companies. His latest financial disclosure report, covering investments in 2009, shows he owned eight energy-related investments, including stock in Exxon Mobil. A previous report covering 2008 shows he owned up to 16 such investments.

But a note attached to the 2009 report, which was disclosed Friday, says Feldman sold his Exxon Mobil stock earlier this month while working on the oil spill case. Details were reported by several news agencies.

An Exxon Mobil spokeswoman, Cynthia Bergman White, confirmed that the company was one of those hurt by the Obama administration's moratorium, telling the Wall Street Journal that Exxon used a rig whose operations were suspended under the ban.

Feldman told the newspaper he only learned of his Exxon holdings on Monday, the day before his ruling, and sold them right away.

Among the other assets Feldman sold were shares in Transocean Ltd, the Switzerland-based company that owns the Deepwater Horizon rig, which BP was leasing at the time of the April explosion.

In 2009, Feldman's stock in Exxon Mobile was valued at $15,000 or less and generated income for him of less than $1,000, his financial disclosure showed. Another of his investments, in Ocean Energy, is categorized as having a value between $15,001 and $50,000, yielding interest of between $1,001 and $2,500. His other holdings are in companies such as Provident Energy Trust, El Paso Corp., Energy Transfer Equity, Basic Energy Services, Valero Energy Corp. and Crosstex Energy LP.
 
ptif219 said:
Judge Martin Feldman in Gulf Oil Spill Case Sells Oil Company Stocks


After his ruling, it emerged that Feldman, who was appointed to the bench by President Ronald Reagan, has owned stock in several oil and energy companies. His latest financial disclosure report, covering investments in 2009, shows he owned eight energy-related investments, including stock in Exxon Mobil. A previous report covering 2008 shows he owned up to 16 such investments.

But a note attached to the 2009 report, which was disclosed Friday, says Feldman sold his Exxon Mobil stock earlier this month while working on the oil spill case. Details were reported by several news agencies.

An Exxon Mobil spokeswoman, Cynthia Bergman White, confirmed that the company was one of those hurt by the Obama administration's moratorium, telling the Wall Street Journal that Exxon used a rig whose operations were suspended under the ban.

Feldman told the newspaper he only learned of his Exxon holdings on Monday, the day before his ruling, and sold them right away.

Among the other assets Feldman sold were shares in Transocean Ltd, the Switzerland-based company that owns the Deepwater Horizon rig, which BP was leasing at the time of the April explosion.

In 2009, Feldman's stock in Exxon Mobile was valued at $15,000 or less and generated income for him of less than $1,000, his financial disclosure showed. Another of his investments, in Ocean Energy, is categorized as having a value between $15,001 and $50,000, yielding interest of between $1,001 and $2,500. His other holdings are in companies such as Provident Energy Trust, El Paso Corp., Energy Transfer Equity, Basic Energy Services, Valero Energy Corp. and Crosstex Energy LP.
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Well I think what your missing there is Blackrock stock he owns... they are the largest stock holders in BP.. but it is disgusting and goes on much more then the exxon stock. This judge should not be allowed to make a ruling on the moratorium and an appeal is being put through. Again the suspension only affects ~30 rigs in the gulf.

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Scarecrow Akhbar said:
What "conservative" legislature are you talking about? Certainly not the US Congress, and especially not the US Congress that "balanced" the budget by counting Socialist Security taxes as revenues but neglected to include the future accrued Socialist Security outlays are liabilities in their "balance" sheet?

That kind of chicanery put Ken Lay and Bernie Madoff in prison, but fools applaud congress when they do the same thing with the fool's money.

Since not one budget was passed that was truly balanced, it's easy to see that the US Congress is not "conservative", not yet.
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The Conservative Legislature of 94. Gingrich... The one that gutted welfare and other entitlement programs.

If you're arguing that the Budget wasn't balanced, you're preachin' to the chior here. You'll note that I framed my response by describing it as the closest TO being balanced since IKE.
 
Let us all know when you give up your oil products and start riding a bike, oh, wait bike tires come from petroleum products as well. I am sure you are doing your part to reduce our dependency on oil.
 
You do realize that Obama is in the WH now? What does Clinton, Bush, Reagan or any other President have to do with the problems we have today? These are Obama's problems not any other President and Obama has a Democrat Congress. If you truly care about the deficit and debt then I am sure you are concerned about what Obama and the Democrat controlled Congress are doing
 
Conservative said:
Let us all know when you give up your oil products and start riding a bike, oh, wait bike tires come from petroleum products as well. I am sure you are doing your part to reduce our dependency on oil.
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Poor poor oil companies... only the most profitable companies on the planet. Finally the republican party is showing its devotions .. big oil, unregulated banking, privatised healthcare.. .. on and on. You must be so proud of yourself championing big money. America's economic recovery should include manufactured green technology, bio tech, nano tech, information technology.... exports. Not low paying low quality service industry jobs selling food.
 
I am sure you will find great success with your hatred for free enterprise and capitalistic corporations. Good luck with that.

Based upon what I have seen from you, you actually need Barack Obama as apparently you are another victim. Don't really blame you because your lack of business knowledge, understanding of basic economics, how to compete in society, and even a basic understanding of an income statement and balance sheet make you exactly the kind of person Obama needs. Anyone that calls Oil companies the most profitable companies on the planet doesn't understand finances at all. Big money and so called big profits ignore big investments and high costs of drillling and doing business. You definitely need an extension of unemployment benefits.

I don't have a problem with big companies or any company for that matter. You really need to grow up.
 
Gabriel said:
Well I think what your missing there is Blackrock stock he owns... they are the largest stock holders in BP.. but it is disgusting and goes on much more then the exxon stock. This judge should not be allowed to make a ruling on the moratorium and an appeal is being put through. Again the suspension only affects ~30 rigs in the gulf.

edit:YouTube - MSNBC's Rachel Maddow: Judge Martin Feldman strikes down drilling moratorium, favors his portfolio
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So then gay judges must not rule on gay issues? Then if a judge has a 401k he has oil stock so can not rule on an oil spill? Nice try but it does not wash and he was right.

If we are going to shut down oil wells then we need to stop people from driving cars because it causes death every day.
 
I would have thought that the issue is a discussion of the Constitutionality of the fascist moratorium imposed by our incompetent Community Organizer, since all discussions of any financial conflict of interest on the part of the judge are moot, given that his ruling was indeed the correct one.

This is clearly a case of the Left Having Nothing Left to Debate With, So They're Hauling Out the Cannons of Personal Destruction.

Nothing new there, not at all.
 
Who signed that legislation that you say "gutted" welfare and other entitlement programs? Seems that others here refuse to answer the question raised, how long should unemployed people be paid unemployment compensation and receive other welfare benefits?
 
Owning BP is a great investment, isn't it? Down to a 14 year low.

I have a great idea, let's put BP out of business and then let the taxpayer pick up the tab for the oil cleanup? I find it quite telling that people here who have apparently never run anything are experts and love telling those of us who have how to do things better. We have a lot of book smart, street stupid liberals on this thread who simply want to spread their misery equally to everyone else whereas Conservatives want to spread properity to anyone who works hard to achieve it.

Barack Obama, our Community Organizer President, has no idea how our economy works, implemented a failed stimulus plan that only bailed out contituent groups, and now wants to spend more money that we don't have to keep the unemployed, unemployed. That is liberalism and that is why it is a failure yet many here have such arrogance that they cannot see the actual affects of all that spending, higher debt and higher unemployment.
 
ptif219 said:
So then gay judges must not rule on gay issues? Then if a judge has a 401k he has oil stock so can not rule on an oil spill? Nice try but it does not wash and he was right.

If we are going to shut down oil wells then we need to stop people from driving cars because it causes death every day.
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Do you even begin to comprehend the ACTUAL meaning of CONFLICT OF INTERESTS? Considering what you said here, I doubt it.
 
Do you have a concept of right and wrong, legal and illegal? It is easy blaming large corporations while ignoring those large corporations employ hundreds of thousands of PEOPLE! There are over 35000 rigs offshore around the world and one accident shuts down drilling offshore in this country? That is liberal overraction as usual. This judge got it right and understands the rule of law. Liberals only believe in the rule of law when it is in their favor to do so.

I suggest, very liberal, Uncola that you spend a little more time thinking instead of feeling, doing research instead of overreacting, and looking at the failures of your liberal ideology instead promoting more liberal failures.
 
The Uncola said:
Do you even begin to comprehend the ACTUAL meaning of CONFLICT OF INTERESTS? Considering what you said here, I doubt it.
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I do, that is why the left refuse to look at other conflicts of interest. It only matters when you want it to. I guess it does not matter for liberal activist judges.
 
The Uncola said:
Do you even begin to comprehend the ACTUAL meaning of CONFLICT OF INTERESTS? Considering what you said here, I doubt it.
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Oh this is SUCH a brilliant point.

So you're saying that where a person has demonstrated possessing an interest in a given circumstance; and when that person is a judge, that they should take themselves out of the equation, because they are unable to maintain an objective point of view...

Thus, where Kagan has demonstrated that she is a person with supreme POLITICAL INTERESTS, she has NO BUSINESS BEING ANYWHERE NEAR A BENCH WHICH RULES DAY IN AND OUT ON ISSUES WITH SUPREME POLITICAL RAMIFICATIONS!

Let's get this over to the judiciary committee IMMEDIATELY! This is an immutable principle of nature and one which the Left will ignore COMPLETELY.

Kagan has NO INTERESTS IN THE LAW EXCEPT WHERE THE LAW CAN BE MANIPULATED TO SUBVERT THAT AND OTHER AMERICAN PRINCIPLES.

Now is that where you were heading, or have we taken an unexpect turn into Right?
 
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The cost of the capital building was about 100k. It was built from lottery funds.

After the second world war a wheel barrow couldn't buy you a cup of tea.

Many of the building that took place during the great depression were some of the greatest bargains this country ever had. One investment, the Hoover dam, is still paying huge dividends.

This bs about cutting spending is nothing but a scam to make the rich, richer and the working people subservient to the elitist oligarchy that cvontrols the world through their political puppets.

Since the world went off the gold standard money is now nothing but a complicated theory.

Why the hell worry about numbers? Numbers are infinite.

The best way to save the world now is to invest in alternative energy sources but the elite status quo would never allow this to happen.

So, enough of the economic psychobabble. I am sick of hearing about theory. I want to see some progress, not regression.

In fact, I think a little bit of inflation would actually help matters.

Deflation has happened in history before and it is just as bad, or worse than some inflation.
 
Keep promoting that class envy which does nothing but divide the country and create bigger govt. and that is where the greed is greatest. What is preventing you from becoming one of those rich people you seem to hate?
 
Conservative said:
Keep promoting that class envy which does nothing but divide the country and create bigger govt. and that is where the greed is greatest. What is preventing you from becoming one of those rich people you seem to hate?
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I don't hate them. I never wanted to be rich. I am happy just to live from week to week, because I sure as hell can't take it with me. Something about the camel and the eye of the needle.

I mean, like really, how much money do some people want?

You don't seem to have to much concern about bigger monopolies, do you?

Little government is just as bad. Just try becoming a ****ing hot dog vendor. You have to go through as much red tape as an international corporation and pay out the ass for a ****ing license.

Anyway, I have always been for the under dog.
 
Being for the underdog isn't a bad thing but the problem is liberal social programs never truly help the underdog and makes that underdog more dependent. We have laws in place to preven monopoliies, enforce the laws, don't just make new ones.
 
Conservative said:
Being for the underdog isn't a bad thing but the problem is liberal social programs never truly help the underdog and makes that underdog more dependent. We have laws in place to preven monopoliies, enforce the laws, don't just make new ones.
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I disagree. There are a lot of liberal social programs that actually do help the disadvantaged, both private and government ones.
 
Define help for me, if you mean implementing programs that cost more than intended, does less than intended, never solving a problem , and never going away, then I agree. All liberal programs do is reduce incentive and keep people dependent. Free enterprise, capitalism, and individual wealth creation make people less dependent on govt. and that is what threatens liberals who truly have no interest in "helping" people but instead are created to retain power.
 
LiberalAvenger said:
... This bs about cutting spending is nothing but a scam to make the rich, richer and the working people subservient to the elitist oligarchy that cvontrols the world through their political puppets.
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How does cutting Federal Spending of Tax Dollars make the rich richer?

How does cutting Federal Spending of Tax Dollars make the working people subservient to the worlds controlling oligarchy?

Specifically: name the specific elements that comprise the worlds controlling oligarchy.

Now that ^^ is what I like to call a thorough refutation.

When the member fails to substantiate a single of their assertions, then they will have conceded, by only default, that this tedious Socialist boilerplate is baseless, addle-minded drivel.
 
LiberalAvenger said:
I disagree. There are a lot of liberal social programs that actually do help the disadvantaged, both private and government ones.
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There are precisely NO liberal social programs which help anyone. One can't claim that a program has helped someone while ignoring the damage which they've induced.
 
PubliusInfinitu said:
How does cutting Federal Spending of Tax Dollars make the rich richer?

How does cutting Federal Spending of Tax Dollars make the working people subservient to the worlds controlling oligarchy?

Specifically: name the specific elements that comprise the worlds controlling oligarchy.

Now that ^^ is what I like to call a thorough refutation.

When the member fails to substantiate a single of their assertions, then they will have conceded, by only default, that this tedious Socialist boilerplate is baseless, addle-minded drivel.
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The rich will always have their money. Most working people work from week to week deeply indebted to the rich.

The interest that we pay for our debit goes to the filthy rich. It does not disappear into thin air. If we pay down the deficit instead of creating jobs we make the rich, richer.
 
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