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Taliban hang 7-year-old boy accused of being a spy

The mere fact that comparisons CAN be made *is* my point, my dear. The taliban are a fringe group, so are ****tard christians who also teach and practice hatred and violence.

Nobody "wins".

Equal comparisons cannot be made my dear. That is the point.
 
Equal comparisons cannot be made my dear. That is the point.

Equal is irrelevant. What is relevant is that there are ****tards who preach and practice hate and violence in both camps. And painting all with the same warped brush is a fruitless endeavor.
 
Equal is irrelevant. What is relevant is that there are ****tards who preach and practice hate and violence in both camps. And painting all with the same warped brush is a fruitless endeavor.

But that's not true. Yeah there are groups with hate in any ideology, but I don't see such a thing as a Christian taliban or a Christian group hanging children on accusations of "spying." Honestly if anything, this mirrors militant atheism that was put into place by the USSR and the Chinese.
 
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Equal is irrelevant. What is relevant is that there are ****tards who preach and practice hate and violence in both camps. And painting all with the same warped brush is a fruitless endeavor.

No its not irrevelant if you attempt to compare the two which you did.

There are always finantics in every religion but for you to argue that and make a direct comparison to another religion and claim its a valid argument is inviting that assumption to be challenged.

Which is was and thankfully for your sake you aren't pushing that comparison.
 
But that's not true. Yeah there are groups with hate in any ideology...

Then yes, it IS true. You just said so yourself.

No its not irrevelant if you attempt to compare the two which you did.
Yes, it IS irrelevant. It's not my fault you keep misunderstanding the comparison even though I've explained it more than once. I can explain it for you, but I sure can't understand it for you.

There are always finantics in every religion
THAT is what I was pointing out. Thank you for trying to get it.

but for you to argue that and make a direct comparison to another religion and claim its a valid argument is inviting that assumption to be challenged.
You mean the "assumption" that there are fanatics in every religion that don't represent the religion as a whole? That "assumption" (read: FACT)?

Which is was and thankfully for your sake you aren't pushing that comparison.
For MY sake? No, not for "my sake" at all. What I didn't push was a strawman created by someone else, sweetie.

Even though I'd be happy to go through all the atrocities committed by Christians and other religious fanatics through the ages. They are, however, out of the scope of this thread entirely irrelevant to the comparison I was making.
 
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I admitted that there are groups with hate in any ideology, but most of them can not be compared to militant Islam or the taliban. Militant Islam and militant atheist are the top two in the tiers of death and evil hatred.
 
I admitted that there are groups with hate in any ideology, but most of them can not be compared to militant Islam or the taliban. Militant Islam and militant atheist are the top two in the tiers of death and evil hatred.

"Militant" anybody is bad.
 
Equal comparisons cannot be made my dear. That is the point.

Its not an comparison of equality, its a comparison regarding the method of ones argument.

If you're goint to insult all muslim with flippant comments of "the religion of peace" or "those peace loving muslims" condemning the entire religion because of the acts of a few, then by logical reasoning you are stating that you can judge any group based on the most obscene actions of a minor population of said group.

This would be like seeing a story about idiotic people at a Tea Party waving around "Obama = Black Hitler" signs and signs with "Impeach that N-Word" on them and someone going "There's not non-racist Tea Partiers".

This would be like seeing a story about the westboro church jackasses, or about Catholic Priests screwing little boys, and going "Gotta love those moral christians!"

This would be like seeing a story about a singular Israeli soldier using a person as a human shield, or hearing a single news report about a supposed wrong doing by a military squadren, and going "Yet more proof of how honorable and professional the Israeli/US military is".

And on and on.

Its not morally stating that hanging a 7 year old is equal to shouting obscinities at the family of dead soldiers at their funerals....its saying if you're going to judge all muslims based on the actions of a few then you can judge all other groups on the acts of a few on their side as well. Its going "These muslims hung a 7 year old cause they're barbarians so all muslims are barbarians...much like those christians protest funerals in an incredibly offensive way of deal soldiers like jackasses so all christians are jackasses. It is not going, which your moral equivolency would suggest, "These muslims are barbarians for doing this and therefore all muslims are barbarians...but Christians do bad things too so all christians are barbarians." That'd be putting them as equivilents in regards to morality, that's not what Riv's doing, Riv's simply using your alls theory and applying it to another group.
 
I could see Dobson and Falwell's conservative evangelical Protestantism in place of a more moderate but still religiously authoritarian Islamic code in many Muslim countries that enforce dress codes, have official religious instruction in schools, little tolerance for deviance, etc. I could see the extremists like Rushdoony and Phelps in place of the Taliban.

Oh, they definitely could...if that was also the culture they were cultivated in as well.

Extremists are extremists the world over, they are all very similar. The lengths in which they will go however I believe is far more societally bound then religiously bound most of the times. I think if you placed a Falwell that was living in the west his entire life into a situation where he'd essentially have his own government and land I'd dare say while it would likely be rather religiously authoratarian that he, and the people within that society, would not function at the same level as many of those in the middle east do simply because they'd have been brought up through modernized western society....something lacking in much of the middle east right now though its starting to move more towards that direction as the younger generations come in and technology allows information to flow all the more freely.

I would not put a Falwell, if having been given his own country and chance for his "people" to settle there, in the here and now at the same end as I'd put the Iranian and other extremely strict Islamic locations. Instead I'd likely place what I'd imagine would happen somewhere in between what the U.S. is currently and where those type of countries are. I'd imagine it'd be rather authoratarian with strict theological laws, however I'd imagine it'd still hold onto democratic roots found within the west along with a more reasonable justice system in regards to the fairness of the trials and the TYPES of punishment though WHAT would be punished I think would get questionable but not as questionable.

Mentality wise, in regards to their religious convictions, they may be similar. I think though that ignoring the societal impacts on both sides and how that'd influence it though is a fallacy. In a similar way, I believe if the Middle East had began greater westernization and a budding of hope for democratic freedom significantly 20 years ago and was successful I think the Middle East...and the muslim faith practiced there....would look amazingly different then it does today.
 
So you're all for napalming them, now? Atta girl.

LOL - no - napalm still has a those other problems that come along with it which still stand.

But do I consider the Taliban and the like to be a foe carrying some degree of respect? Far much less than before, that's for certain.
 
...but was he a spy?







/straight to hell
 
All outrage aside, I'm really sick of all of these media outlets labeling all of these different groups as "the Talib'an". The situation is not that simple and to water it down like that completely hides the complex dynamics going on between these different groups and the situation in general. All I ask of everyone is that next time they read something about "the Talib'an" they actually wonder about this issue, because it is very important in the context of events.
 
I know, just like those ****ing christians from that church in westboro. Christians are such loving people.

Christianity has evolved. Islam has not.

It amazes me that we have sympathizers that support these people.
 
Christianity has evolved. Islam has not.

It amazes me that we have sympathizers that support these people.

Oh for the **** sakes no it has not evolved from have extremist.

Christian terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Christianity and violence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are people that take religion to the extreme in ever era this is not just related only to Islam.

Abuse of child 'witches' on rise, aid group says - CNN.com

Children are targets of Nigerian witch hunt | World news | The Observer

Actually when people take things to extreme in any religion is bad, but do I blame the whole group for some bad apples in a bunch no I do not blame every person in that religion.


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God this is outrageous that a little boy would be hanged just because they thought he was a spy. May that little boy rest in peace know that he is a way from those monsters who did this too him, Just think how scared he must have been during this makes my heart break.
 
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There will always be radicals. It's just a matter of whether they can be justified to influence the majority and have power like they currently have. We've seen this across the full spectrum of religions over human history.

The pivotal Q is this: will the majority of Muslims... those that don't want to return to the stone age, do enough to prevent the extremists from going all the way?
 
Oh for the **** sakes no it has not evolved from have extremist.

Christian terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Christianity and violence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are people that take religion to the extreme in ever era this is not just related only to Islam.

Abuse of child 'witches' on rise, aid group says - CNN.com

Children are targets of Nigerian witch hunt | World news | The Observer

Actually when people take things to extreme in any religion is bad, but do I blame the whole group for some bad apples in a bunch no I do not blame every person in that religion.


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God this is outrageous that a little boy would be hanged just because they thought he was a spy. May that little boy rest in peace know that he is a way from those monsters who did this too him, Just think how scared he must have been during this makes my heart break.

Muslim attacks, the short list

* 26 February 1993 – World Trade Center bombing, New York City. 6 killed.
* 13 March 1993 – 1993 Bombay bombings. Mumbai, India. The single-day attacks resulted in over 250 civilian fatalities and 700 injuries.
* 28 July 1994 – Buenos Aires, Argentina. Vehicle suicide bombing attack against AMIA building, the local Jewish community representation, leaves 85 dead and more than 300 injured.
* 24 December 1994 – Air France Flight 8969 hijacking in Algiers by 3 members of Armed Islamic Group of Algeria and another terrorist. 7 killed including 4 hijackers.
* 25 June 1996 – Khobar Towers bombing, 20 killed, 372 wounded.
* 17 November 1997 – Luxor attack, 6 armed Islamic terrorists attack tourists at Egypts famous Luxor Ruins. 68 foreign tourists killed.
* 14 February 1998 – The 1998 Coimbatore bombings occurred in the city of Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu, India. 46 people were killed and over 200 were injured in 13 bomb attacks within a 12 km radius.
* 7 August 1998 – 1998 United States embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya. 224 dead. 4000+ injured.
* 4 September 1999 – A series of bombing attacks in several cities of Russia, kills near 300 people.
* 12 October 2000 – Attack on the USS cole in the Yemeni port of Aden.
* 11 September 2001 – 4 planes hijacked and crashed into World Trade Center and The Pentagon by 19 hijackers. Nearly 3000 dead.[160]
* 13 December 2001 – Suicide attack on India's parliament in New Delhi. Aimed at eliminating the top leadership of India and causing anarchy in the country. Allegedly done by Pakistan-based Islamist terrorist organizations, Jaish-E-Mohammad and Lashkar-e-Toiba.
* 27 March 2002 – Suicide bomb attack on a Passover Seder in a Hotel in Netanya, Israel. 30 dead, 133 injured.
* 30 March 2002 and 24 November 2002 - Attacks on the Hindu Raghunath temple, India. Total 25 dead.
* 7 May 2002 – Bombing in al-Arbaa, Algeria. 49 dead, 117 injured.
* 24 September 2002 – Machine Gun attack on Hindu temple in Ahmedabad, India. 31 dead, 86 injured.[161][162]
* 12 October 2002 – Bombing in Bali nightclub. 202 killed, 300 injured.[163]
* 16 May 2003 – Casablanca Attacks – 4 simultaneous attacks in Casablanca killing 33 civilians (mostly Moroccans) carried by Salafaia Jihadia.
* 11 March 2004 – Multiple bombings on trains near Madrid, Spain. 191 killed, 1460 injured (alleged link to Al-Qaeda).
* 1 September 2004 Approximately 344 civilians including 186 children, are killed during the Beslan school hostage crisis.[164][165]
* 2 November 2004 – Ritual murder of Theo van Gogh (film director) by Amsterdam-born jihadist Mohammed Bouyeri.
* 4 February 2005 – Muslim terrorists attacked the Christian community in Demsa, Nigeria, killing 36 people, destroying property and displacing an additional 3000 people.
* 5 July 2005 - Attack at the Hindu Ram temple at Ayodhya, India; one of the most holy sites of Hinduism. 6 dead.
* 7 July 2005 – Multiple bombings in London Underground. 53 killed by four suicide bombers. Nearly 700 injured.
* 23 July 2005 – Bomb attacks at Sharm el-Sheikh, an Egyptian resort city, at least 64 people killed.
* 29 October 2005 – 29 October 2005 Delhi bombings, India. Over 60 killed and over 180 injured in a series of three attacks in crowded markets and a bus, just 2 days before the Diwali festival.[166]
* 9 November 2005 – 2005 Amman bombings. Over 60 killed and 115 injured, in a series of coordinated suicide attacks on hotels in Amman, Jordan.[167][168] Four attackers including a husband and wife team were involved.[169]
* 7 March 2006 – 2006 Varanasi bombings, India. An attack attributed to Lashkar-e-Taiba by Uttar Pradesh government officials, over 28 killed and over 100 injured, in a series of attacks in the Sankath Mochan Hanuman temple and Cantonment Railway Station in the Hindu holy city of Varanasi.[170] Uttar Pradesh government officials.
* 11 July 2006 – Mumbai, India. 11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings were a series of seven bomb blasts that took place over a period of 11 minutes on the Suburban Railway in Mumbai (formerly known as Bombay). 209 people lost their lives and over 700 were injured in the attacks.
* 14 August 2007 – Qahtaniya bombings: Four suicide vehicle bombers massacred nearly 800 members of northern Iraq's Yazidi sect in the deadliest Iraq war's attack to date.
* 26 July 2008 – Ahmedabad, India. Islamic terrorists detonate at least 16 explosive devices in the heart of this industrial capital, leaving at least 49 dead and 160 injured. A Muslim group calling itself the Indian Mujahideen claims responsibility. Indian authorities believe that extremists with ties to Pakistan and/or Bangladesh are likely responsible and are intent on inciting communal violence.[171] Investigation by Indian police led to the eventual arrest of a number of terrorists suspected of carrying out the blasts, most of whom belong to a well-known terrorist group, The Students Islamic Movement of India.[172]
* 13 September 2008 – Delhi, India. Pakistani extremist groups plant bombs at several places including India Gate, out of which the ones at Karol Bagh, Connaught Place and Greater Kailash explode leaving around 30 people dead, followed by another attack two weeks later at the congested Mehrauli area, leaving 2 people dead.
* 26 November 2008 – Mumbai, India. Muslim extremists kill at least 174 people and wound numerous others in a series of coordinated attacks on India's largest city and financial capital. A group calling itself the Deccan Mujaheddin claims responsibility, however, the government of India suspects Islamic terrorists based in Pakistan are responsible. Ajmal Kasab, one of the terrorists, was caught alive.[173][174]
* 25 October 2009. Baghdad, Iraq. During a terrorist attack, two bomber vehicles detonated in the Green Zone, killing at least 155 people and injuring 520.
* 28 October 2009 – Peshawar, Pakistan. A car bomb is detonated in a woman exclusive shopping district, and over 110 die with 200 or more injured.
* 5 November 2009 - Fort Hood, Texas, USA. U.S. Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan, an American Muslim of Palestinian descent, shot and killed 13 people and wounded 30 others at a U.S. Army base.
* 3 December 2009 – Mogadishu, Somalia. A male suicide bomber disguised as a woman detonates in a hotel meeting hall. The hotel was hosting a graduation ceremony for local medical students when the blast went off, killing four government ministers as well as other civilians.[175]
* 1 January 2010 – Lakki Marwat, Pakistan. A suicide car bomber drove his explosive-laden vehicle into a volleyball pitch as people gathered to watch a match killing more than 100 people.[176]
* 1 May 2010 - New York, New York, USA. Faisal Shahzad, an Islamic Pakistani American who received U.S. citizenship in December 2009, attempted to detonate a car bomb in Times Square working with the Pakistani Taliban or Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan.

Anytime you want to compare freedom in Christian dominated countries vs Muslim or compare deaths in the name of either religion, let us know.

We will bury you with the reality you are fighting so hard to ignore.
 
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We protest American troops killing people because that's something we might actually have influence over. Americans marching in the streets isn't going to get the Taliban to change its behavior. That's for the Afghanis to do. And really, "peaceful group?" Are you implying that someone in this country has actually made that claim?

They're a bunch of warlords who need to be either dismantled as an entity or blown to smithereens.
Kinda like Hamas uh?
 
That's the way they roll.

horrid:(
 
This comes as no surprise to me. All the posters on this forum who love to try and compare the far right conservative Christians to Taliban, would be wise to open their eyes and see what type of brutality and cruelty goes on under Taliban rule. There is absolutely no comparison.

I dunno about that. I mean I do own and have read a Holy Bible.
 
The bottom line is....Islam protects itself by not allowing the open practice of another religion in their territory and killing anyone who converts to another religion from Islam.
 
It amazes me that we have sympathizers that support these people.

I don't think most people have the foggiest idea how their apologetics appears to others. I think it acts more like a conditioned response than anything else, since so many defend these practices by indulging in specious equivalences whenever radical Islam is the subject matter.
 
Kinda like Hamas uh?

Uhh, which part of my post are you saying is "like Hamas?" Americans don't have influence over Hamas and I don't think anyone has claimed Hamas is a peaceful group.
 
Muslim attacks, the short list

* 26 February 1993 – World Trade Center bombing, New York City. 6 killed.
* 13 March 1993 – 1993 Bombay bombings. Mumbai, India. The single-day attacks resulted in over 250 civilian fatalities and 700 injuries.
* 28 July 1994 – Buenos Aires, Argentina. Vehicle suicide bombing attack against AMIA building, the local Jewish community representation, leaves 85 dead and more than 300 injured.
* 24 December 1994 – Air France Flight 8969 hijacking in Algiers by 3 members of Armed Islamic Group of Algeria and another terrorist. 7 killed including 4 hijackers.
* 25 June 1996 – Khobar Towers bombing, 20 killed, 372 wounded.
* 17 November 1997 – Luxor attack, 6 armed Islamic terrorists attack tourists at Egypts famous Luxor Ruins. 68 foreign tourists killed.
* 14 February 1998 – The 1998 Coimbatore bombings occurred in the city of Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu, India. 46 people were killed and over 200 were injured in 13 bomb attacks within a 12 km radius.
* 7 August 1998 – 1998 United States embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya. 224 dead. 4000+ injured.
* 4 September 1999 – A series of bombing attacks in several cities of Russia, kills near 300 people.
* 12 October 2000 – Attack on the USS cole in the Yemeni port of Aden.
* 11 September 2001 – 4 planes hijacked and crashed into World Trade Center and The Pentagon by 19 hijackers. Nearly 3000 dead.[160]
* 13 December 2001 – Suicide attack on India's parliament in New Delhi. Aimed at eliminating the top leadership of India and causing anarchy in the country. Allegedly done by Pakistan-based Islamist terrorist organizations, Jaish-E-Mohammad and Lashkar-e-Toiba.
* 27 March 2002 – Suicide bomb attack on a Passover Seder in a Hotel in Netanya, Israel. 30 dead, 133 injured.
* 30 March 2002 and 24 November 2002 - Attacks on the Hindu Raghunath temple, India. Total 25 dead.
* 7 May 2002 – Bombing in al-Arbaa, Algeria. 49 dead, 117 injured.
* 24 September 2002 – Machine Gun attack on Hindu temple in Ahmedabad, India. 31 dead, 86 injured.[161][162]
* 12 October 2002 – Bombing in Bali nightclub. 202 killed, 300 injured.[163]
* 16 May 2003 – Casablanca Attacks – 4 simultaneous attacks in Casablanca killing 33 civilians (mostly Moroccans) carried by Salafaia Jihadia.
* 11 March 2004 – Multiple bombings on trains near Madrid, Spain. 191 killed, 1460 injured (alleged link to Al-Qaeda).
* 1 September 2004 Approximately 344 civilians including 186 children, are killed during the Beslan school hostage crisis.[164][165]
* 2 November 2004 – Ritual murder of Theo van Gogh (film director) by Amsterdam-born jihadist Mohammed Bouyeri.
* 4 February 2005 – Muslim terrorists attacked the Christian community in Demsa, Nigeria, killing 36 people, destroying property and displacing an additional 3000 people.
* 5 July 2005 - Attack at the Hindu Ram temple at Ayodhya, India; one of the most holy sites of Hinduism. 6 dead.
* 7 July 2005 – Multiple bombings in London Underground. 53 killed by four suicide bombers. Nearly 700 injured.
* 23 July 2005 – Bomb attacks at Sharm el-Sheikh, an Egyptian resort city, at least 64 people killed.
* 29 October 2005 – 29 October 2005 Delhi bombings, India. Over 60 killed and over 180 injured in a series of three attacks in crowded markets and a bus, just 2 days before the Diwali festival.[166]
* 9 November 2005 – 2005 Amman bombings. Over 60 killed and 115 injured, in a series of coordinated suicide attacks on hotels in Amman, Jordan.[167][168] Four attackers including a husband and wife team were involved.[169]
* 7 March 2006 – 2006 Varanasi bombings, India. An attack attributed to Lashkar-e-Taiba by Uttar Pradesh government officials, over 28 killed and over 100 injured, in a series of attacks in the Sankath Mochan Hanuman temple and Cantonment Railway Station in the Hindu holy city of Varanasi.[170] Uttar Pradesh government officials.
* 11 July 2006 – Mumbai, India. 11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings were a series of seven bomb blasts that took place over a period of 11 minutes on the Suburban Railway in Mumbai (formerly known as Bombay). 209 people lost their lives and over 700 were injured in the attacks.
* 14 August 2007 – Qahtaniya bombings: Four suicide vehicle bombers massacred nearly 800 members of northern Iraq's Yazidi sect in the deadliest Iraq war's attack to date.
* 26 July 2008 – Ahmedabad, India. Islamic terrorists detonate at least 16 explosive devices in the heart of this industrial capital, leaving at least 49 dead and 160 injured. A Muslim group calling itself the Indian Mujahideen claims responsibility. Indian authorities believe that extremists with ties to Pakistan and/or Bangladesh are likely responsible and are intent on inciting communal violence.[171] Investigation by Indian police led to the eventual arrest of a number of terrorists suspected of carrying out the blasts, most of whom belong to a well-known terrorist group, The Students Islamic Movement of India.[172]
* 13 September 2008 – Delhi, India. Pakistani extremist groups plant bombs at several places including India Gate, out of which the ones at Karol Bagh, Connaught Place and Greater Kailash explode leaving around 30 people dead, followed by another attack two weeks later at the congested Mehrauli area, leaving 2 people dead.
* 26 November 2008 – Mumbai, India. Muslim extremists kill at least 174 people and wound numerous others in a series of coordinated attacks on India's largest city and financial capital. A group calling itself the Deccan Mujaheddin claims responsibility, however, the government of India suspects Islamic terrorists based in Pakistan are responsible. Ajmal Kasab, one of the terrorists, was caught alive.[173][174]
* 25 October 2009. Baghdad, Iraq. During a terrorist attack, two bomber vehicles detonated in the Green Zone, killing at least 155 people and injuring 520.
* 28 October 2009 – Peshawar, Pakistan. A car bomb is detonated in a woman exclusive shopping district, and over 110 die with 200 or more injured.
* 5 November 2009 - Fort Hood, Texas, USA. U.S. Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan, an American Muslim of Palestinian descent, shot and killed 13 people and wounded 30 others at a U.S. Army base.
* 3 December 2009 – Mogadishu, Somalia. A male suicide bomber disguised as a woman detonates in a hotel meeting hall. The hotel was hosting a graduation ceremony for local medical students when the blast went off, killing four government ministers as well as other civilians.[175]
* 1 January 2010 – Lakki Marwat, Pakistan. A suicide car bomber drove his explosive-laden vehicle into a volleyball pitch as people gathered to watch a match killing more than 100 people.[176]
* 1 May 2010 - New York, New York, USA. Faisal Shahzad, an Islamic Pakistani American who received U.S. citizenship in December 2009, attempted to detonate a car bomb in Times Square working with the Pakistani Taliban or Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan.

Anytime you want to compare freedom in Christian dominated countries vs Muslim or compare deaths in the name of either religion, let us know.

We will bury you with the reality you are fighting so hard to ignore.

What reality am I trying to ingnore that extreismt are bad?

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