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Former President George W. Bush: We waterboarded Khalid Sheik Mohammed,

j-mac said:
Why no, I think we should just give in to the radical islamists demands, then they could like us.....

j-mac
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You're avoiding the issue. Do you want to torture them or get actionable intel from them?

With some of these guys, both can be a real desire. But, you can't use the same actions to get both results.
 
ADK_Forever said:
You're avoiding the issue. Do you want to torture them or get actionable intel from them?

With some of these guys, both can be a real desire. But, you can't use the same actions to get both results.
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Waterboarding has a history of gaining "actionable intel", just because your talking point partisan hack sites tell you otherwise does not make it less true.
 
Eh, I think it's a little tasteless to attack someone over a typo and use that to render someone's opinion as invalid :/

Personally I support water-boarding, but I think it would be best to drug them up with "loosening" drugs that would make them feel safe and secure enough to spill the truth.

But yes, hugs and chocolate do get info from murdering terrorists. I have an idea, why don't we gather 72 gorgeous women and purchase terrorists a mansion. They can have their 72 sex slaves and live in a mansion if they tell us the truth. They could get their reward from Allah early all at the taxpayers expense :D
 
Your Star said:
I love how no one is mentioning that Bush confused to a war crime.
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I'z confused... you do mean confessed do you not?

Only a Lib would come up with that claptrap.

If it is a war crime, then many in our military should be compensated for waterboarding. If it is a war crime.
Generals and officers should be Court Marshaled and or thrown in the Brig.

You Libs would like that... wouldn't ya?

Waterboarding saves lives. Proven to save lives.
Of course, Libs think terrorists are just Rev. Wright with a little more get up and go.
Generally mentor worthy pieces of crap, that have gone a wee bit too far.

GONG! REALITY ALERT!!!

Sorry, we are living in the real world. LA was spared a 911 thanks to a little water up the nostels.
Poor uncooperative terrorist babies.

And we actually elect morons with these views to Congress and the White House.
Scary.

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Reverend_Hellh0und said:
The truth? from you? :lamo

Come on be serious for once...

Did you make this up or do you have any links from reputable sites, not idiot partisan hack sites like troofout and moveon.org.
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If I thought you had the vaguest idea what we were discussing, or could comprehend these complicated issues, I would respond to you. But, it's obvious all you're here doing here is trying to act the fool.
 
ADK_Forever said:
If I thought you had the vaguest idea what we were discussing, or could comprehend these complicated issues, I would respond to you. But, it's obvious all you're here doing here is trying to act the fool.
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So I take that as a no, you have no proof and you did indeed make it up or got it from a partisan hack site.


Thank you for your concession champ.
 
digsbe said:
Eh, I think it's a little tasteless to attack someone over a typo and use that to render someone's opinion as invalid
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Most of us just consider the source and move on.
 
digsbe said:
Eh, I think it's a little tasteless to attack someone over a typo and use that to render someone's opinion as invalid :/
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Or it could simply be light hearted pointing out of some of dat irony. :pimpdaddy:
 
Torture is a war crime, waterboarding is torture, Bush confessed to okaying to waterboarding someone. Therefore Bush confessed to a war crime.
 
ADK_Forever said:
Most of us just consider the source and move on.
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are you seriously losing all composer ADK? Your mouth foaming is particularly sudsy today.... I've asked you for proof of your claims numerous times now. all you have is your typical whiny retorts....


I told you if you want to run your mouth at me, don't be a coward and come downstairs :shrug:
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Or it could simply be light hearted pointing out of some of dat irony. :pimpdaddy:
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True, irony is fun :) My whole post was meant to be semi sarcastic (hence the last paragraph). I know the good reverend can do no wrong (*pukes after addressing you as "the good reverend"*).
 
digsbe said:
True, irony is fun :) My whole post was meant to be semi sarcastic (hence the last paragraph). I know the good reverend can do no wrong (*pukes after addressing you as "the good reverend"*).
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Are you "confusing" to my Awesomeness? :pimpdaddy:
 
Your Star said:
Torture is a war crime, waterboarding is torture, Bush confessed to okaying to waterboarding someone. Therefore Bush confessed to a war crime.
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Hmm, if this is the case, do you consider John Kerry to be a war criminal as well?
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Are you "confusing" to my Awesomeness? :pimpdaddy:
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Not quite. I still think Redress is more awesome :peace You could say I am becoming bi-awesomeness in that I acknowledge your level of awesomeness but don't rank it higher then some others :mrgreen:
 
zimmer said:
Waterboarding saves lives.
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And you have something that would look like evidence to support this... right?

LA was spared a 911 thanks to a little water up the nostels.
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Annnd you have some proof to support this too, I assume?
 
digsbe said:
Not quite. I still think Redress is more awesome :peace You could say I am becoming bi-awesomeness in that I acknowledge your level of awesomeness but don't rank it higher then some others :mrgreen:
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Its the peeing pony isn't it?
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
He admitted to them in his winter soldier spiel. :shock:


YouTube - John Kerry admits to war crimes


in the mans own words, "I committed the same kind of atrocities"
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As did many Vietnam vets. (And vets in every war!) Kerry was trying to shine a light on the atrocities that occur in wars. That admission took guts and a sense of honor. It would take the same qualities to understand.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Its the peeing pony isn't it?
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Yes, seeing as it has caused someone of an uproar and confusion on the forum, I must credit your actions as "awesome" yet horribly sick at the same time.
 
ADK_Forever said:
As did many Vietnam vets. (And vets in every war!) Kerry was trying to shine a light on the atrocities that occur in wars. That admission took guts and a sense of honor. It would take the same qualities to understand.
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How many times are you going to pathetically attempt to insult me? seriously dood, in one breath you open your mouth and hurl insults, and in the next you whine about me supposedly insulting you. Pathetic.....



That said, your clear double standard exposes you for the partisan hack you are. Admission to supposed war crimes obsolves one of it? how odd... well not really for an obama apparactchik such as yourself. seriously man, get a grip. Either they are both culpable or neither.

In fact I would argue that kerry needs to be charged based on his sworn testimony for war crimes. Waterboarding wasn't declared torture by US courts was it?
 
Personally, I think the concept of war crimes is extremely foolish and should never be implemented. War is war, not some game with rules that everyone must play by.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
you mean a sitting senator. vs a former president.
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Kerry was a soldier during that time, so I don't know what your getting at?

Bush committed his crime as president, and was the person giving the order. Kerry was a soldier who had orders coming from other people. I think we should try the people giving orders, instead of individual soldiers, who would have been court martialed for not following said orders.
 
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