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Congress Targets Teen Driving, Mulls Federal Driver's License Standards

liblady said:
many states are for too lax in their standards. statistics PROVE that teen drivers are dangerous on the road.
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liblady said:
many states are for too lax in their standards. statistics PROVE that teen drivers are dangerous on the road.
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Transporation is a power delegated to the states, the federal government has no business getting involved. Teens are the most dangerous because they are ****ing stupid, they think driving is a game.
 
This is kind of off-topic but the drivers education system in America is AWFUL. Now I know why liberals wants more control because some private businesses can't do a damn thing.
 
pro-bipartisan said:
This is kind of off-topic but the drivers education system in America is AWFUL. Now I know why liberals wants more control because some private businesses can't do a damn thing.
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So you've experienced drivers education in all 50 states to be able to come to that conclusion?
 
pro-bipartisan said:
This is kind of off-topic but the drivers education system in America is AWFUL. Now I know why liberals wants more control because some private businesses can't do a damn thing.
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I'm a liberal and I oppose a federal standard for driver's licenses. :confused:
 
Experienced? No, educated on, yes.
 
Deuce said:
I'm a liberal and I oppose a federal standard for driver's licenses. :confused:
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I never said "all liberals support a federal standard for driver's licenses". :confused:
 
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MrVicchio said:
And how would a Federal Standard make Teen Drivers better drivers?
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why do you ask these silly questions? in theory, restricting their driving until they have plenty of practice time should help. in some states, they are not allowed to have more than one other passenger in the car for a period of time afeter they get their license. again. good idea.
 
pro-bipartisan said:
Experienced? No, educated on, yes.
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Then I'd say that your view is unique, but not one that is valid since its a small sample size. I've been through drivers ed in Iowa and it was really good. I read up on Missouri's laws concerning teen drivers and I find that it's also a good way of doing things. Each state has a unique set of problems when it comes to drivers education and the one size fits all federal government solution will fail like it has failed in every instance it has been applied.
 
The_Patriot said:
Then I'd say that your view is unique, but not one that is valid since its a small sample size. I've been through drivers ed in Iowa and it was really good. I read up on Missouri's laws concerning teen drivers and I find that it's also a good way of doing things. Each state has a unique set of problems when it comes to drivers education and the one size fits all federal government solution will fail like it has failed in every instance it has been applied.
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Actually your statement is invalid since you have no idea how big my sample size is. It is an insult that you think I would believe what one or two people say without verifying it. And I never said it would work, I said I understand why liberals want more government control.
 
pro-bipartisan said:
Actually your statement is invalid since you have no idea how big my sample size is. It is an insult that you think I would believe what one or two people say without verifying it. And I never said it would work, I said I understand why liberals want more government control.
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So show me where my statement is invalid and what are the 50 different drivers education programs mandated by 50 different states. I'll be waiting for you to back up your original position that drivers education in the US is awful. I like flow charts and bulleted text to make it easier to follow your reasons on why drivers education is awful in the US.
 
pro-bipartisan said:
This is kind of off-topic but the drivers education system in America is AWFUL. Now I know why liberals wants more control because some private businesses can't do a damn thing.
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Unless there's a reason why government-run drivers education would be better, I don't see a problem.
 
The_Patriot said:
So show me where my statement is invalid and what are the 50 different drivers education programs mandated by 50 different states. I'll be waiting for you to back up your original position that drivers education in the US is awful. I like flow charts and bulleted text to make it easier to follow your reasons on why drivers education is awful in the US.
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When you said my statement is invalid since I have a small sampling size. And I'm not your slave, you can use Google too. Why would you ask me to do something that you could do yourself? Because you are lazy or since you enjoy making yourself look like a fool?
 
RightinNYC said:
Unless there's a reason why government-run drivers education would be better, I don't see a problem.
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Just because government-run drivers education wouldn't be better, doesn't mean there isn't a problem. I'm also not so sure of government-run drivers education being worse than current situation.
 
pro-bipartisan said:
When you said my statement is invalid since I have a small sampling size. And I'm not your slave, you can use Google too. Why would you ask me to do something that you could do yourself? Because you are lazy or since you enjoy making yourself look like a fool?
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Your argument means that you bring forth your documentation and facts to support it. I only have to worry about bringing up my facts and documentation to support my argument. I am not obligated in any way to perform the work for you to support your argument. That's your part of the debate.
 
Deuce said:
I'm a liberal and I oppose a federal standard for driver's licenses. :confused:
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Just wait, I hear Obama will come out in favor of this in a few weeks, then you can be for it too.
 
liblady said:
in theory, restricting their driving until they have plenty of practice time should help. in some states, they are not allowed to have more than one other passenger in the car for a period of time afeter they get their license. again. good idea.
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And again, how would a FEDERAL standard make a difference? What if they do it wrong?
 
I'm not arguing, I'm telling you, it's your choice whether you want to believe me or not. You can go research and answer questions your asking me. It's very annoying when people ask questions they can answer themselves.
 
MrVicchio said:
And again, how would a FEDERAL standard make a difference? What if they do it wrong?
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What usually happens to people when they do something wrong that their employer doesn't want them to do? They get fired, fined, etc.
 
MrVicchio said:
Just wait, I hear Obama will come out in favor of this in a few weeks, then you can be for it too.
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Just wait, I hear... oh wait nevermind, Republicans got their asses kicked last time in General elections against Democrats.
 
MrVicchio said:
And again, how would a FEDERAL standard make a difference? What if they do it wrong?
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forget, v.....you couldn't prove my math wrong about the oil spill and now you think longer probationary driving periods and restrictions wouldn't do any good. talking to you is like talking to chinese drywall.
 
liblady said:
forget, v.....you couldn't prove my math wrong about the oil spill and now you think longer probationary driving periods and restrictions wouldn't do any good. talking to you is like talking to chinese drywall.
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I never said they weren't a bad thing. I'm asking how a FEDERAL STANDARD would make things safer as opposed to the current system of state standards for DL. You want to usurp state power, you better have a damn good reason for doing so. So far, you have not presented a compelling reason the Federal Government is the right solution to this issue.
 
pro-bipartisan said:
Just wait, I hear... oh wait nevermind, Republicans got their asses kicked last time in General elections against Democrats.
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Nov. 2010... watch the Dem's get slaughtered, hope you're here to watch the Tsunami.
 
MrVicchio said:
Nov. 2010... watch the Dem's get slaughtered, hope you're here to watch the Tsunami.
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Oh you mean like the general elections that already happened this year? You're a joke.
 
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