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Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

No, but that same healthcare system will pay for all your medical needs. It works both ways you know.

Um, no, it's doesn't. Not with my tax dollars, it doesn't, anyway.

I'm sorry, but I work too hard for my money for some mother****er to spend my money on bigger titties. I'm just funny like that, in these economic times.

Unless, that person wants to come pay my house note, or my businesses' equipment notes, of course. Then it will work both ways.
 
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Um, no, it's doesn't. Not with my tax dollars, it doesn't, anyway.

I'm sorry, but I work too hard for my money for some mother****er to spend my money on bigger titties. I'm just funny like that, in these economic times.

Unless, that person wants to come pay my house note, or my businesses' equipment notes, of course. Then it will work both ways.

You don't get it do you? I've said several times that I don't think breast aug should be covered.

The examples you are giving also don't even apply to this debate. Those aren't medical issues. Everyone has a right to healthcare and I would love my tax dollars to go to healthcare for all. Instead of unnecessary military spending, as an example of something we could cut back on. If you get sick, or if I get sick we need to be able to have the access to health care so we can get better. No matter what, and the insurance companies have only proved that if they can, they will try to weasel out of paying your medical bills, and often don't even cover necessary procedures.
 
You don't get it do you? I've said several times that I don't think breast aug should be covered.

The examples you are giving also don't even apply to this debate. Those aren't medical issues. Everyone has a right to healthcare and I would love my tax dollars to go to healthcare for all. Instead of unnecessary military spending, as an example of something we could cut back on. If you get sick, or if I get sick we need to be able to have the access to health care so we can get better. No matter what, and the insurance companies have only proved that if they can, they will try to weasel out of paying your medical bills, and often don't even cover necessary procedures.

Your star,

Medicare actually denies more claims than private insurers.

Pages 6, 7, and 8.

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/pub/upload/mm/368/2009-nhirc-long.pdf
 
he he he he he he he

At work we call them

"Shims"
 
Yes, they should. It's how you treat Gender Identity Disorder which is a medical issue. Would you deny an OCD patient treatment because it isn't "life threatening"?

Denying treatment assumes that I have responsibility to pay for treatment to begin with. I do not, as the individual is entitled to self ownership with exclusive rights to control over and use of that body and all capital, services, and goods created by that body.
 
I think it's disrespectful to berate one for exercising free speech. So I guess we'll both have to learn to deal with it.

No it's not. To point out when one lacks manners isn't rude.

You can exercise you're free speech. But it's my free speech to point out that you're being impolite.

Why do some people take pride in being jerks?
 
It has more to do with being comfortable in your own skin. The science of genetics is far from perfect. I say kudos to anyone who is brave enough to get a sex change. I also wouldn't put them in the same category as people who are addicted to plastic surgery. That's just absurd. :roll:

Better comparison:

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nice to know people have free speech in your office.
 
And you would be fired immediately if you did that in my office.

You're right. It isn't funny to make fun of people with clear emotional issues.
 
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Your star,

Medicare actually denies more claims than private insurers.

Pages 6, 7, and 8.

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/pub/upload/mm/368/2009-nhirc-long.pdf

Check out the reasons for denial later on and you'll find a different story. Note the "expenses incurred after coverage terminated" being the top reason for almost all of the private insurers. "Preauthorization absent" is another popular one. I've also read that duplicate claims are a common reason for rejection with Medicare, but this study doesn't seem to track that. I suppose it's under "other."
 
nice to know people have free speech in your office.

Oh, yeah. Talk to me about "free speech" in the workplace when you go up to your boss and tell him to "suck it" - or call a client the n-word and still have your job.

There's no such thing as free speech in the work place. To imagine so is to live in a world of puppies and rainbows. Try working for Catholic Charities and bitching about the Pope. That'll get you far.

It's long-established law that there is no free speech in the work place. The only "free speech" allowed is well-defined: language restrictions on break time; whistleblower accommodations; religious accommodations that don't negatively impact the mission of the business.

I don't see how insulting transgendered people is protected speech in the workplace (outside, shout "shim" all you like) - any more so than calling every black person who walks in the business the n-word. Your ass should be fired. Period.
 
Oh, yeah. Talk to me about "free speech" in the workplace when you go up to your boss and tell him to "suck it" - or call a client the n-word and still have your job.
I didnt say go up and call a client that. Nor did I say anything about telling a boss to suck it.

Unfortunately, in the nature of my job we HAVE to identify transgender people as transgender people so we know how to handle problems specific to them should we have to transport.
 
Oh, yeah. Talk to me about "free speech" in the workplace when you go up to your boss and tell him to "suck it" - or call a client the n-word and still have your job.

There's no such thing as free speech in the work place. To imagine so is to live in a world of puppies and rainbows. Try working for Catholic Charities and bitching about the Pope. That'll get you far.

It's long-established law that there is no free speech in the work place. The only "free speech" allowed is well-defined: language restrictions on break time; whistleblower accommodations; religious accommodations that don't negatively impact the mission of the business.

I don't see how insulting transgendered people is protected speech in the workplace (outside, shout "shim" all you like) - any more so than calling every black person who walks in the business the n-word. Your ass should be fired. Period.

Your examples are all examples of free speech in the workplace. I am free to tell my boss to suck it. No govt agents or police officers are going to come and take me away if I do. I'm not going to be charged, or arrested, or jailed. That doesn't mean that what I say won't instigate a reaction from the person I say it TO. I am perfectly free to tell my boss to suck it. And he is perfectly free to tell me not to let the door hit me in the ass on the way out. Neither of us are going to be arrested for it. THAT is what free speech is. Freedom of speech has to do with GOVT limitations (or lack thereof, as it is), not individual repercussions.
 
The whole premise of my post on that topic was pointing out that two individuals who are employees having a private conversation should not be fired for what they say to one another as long as any of their attitudes displayed in said private conversation doesnt show in their dealings with clients or the public.

Its almost like firing someone for you overheaing that they are not an Obama supporter.
 
Fair enough; but transgendered people is the more acceptable term. What I've found is that if you're in the practice of insulting people behind their backs, it will eventually slip out when their around and then someone's in trouble.

I was merely making the point back (not just to you) based on the "glad there's 'free speech' in your office." There's no such thing as free speech in ANY workplace environment with the appointed legal exceptions.
 
Your examples are all examples of free speech in the workplace. I am free to tell my boss to suck it. No govt agents or police officers are going to come and take me away if I do. I'm not going to be charged, or arrested, or jailed. That doesn't mean that what I say won't instigate a reaction from the person I say it TO. I am perfectly free to tell my boss to suck it. And he is perfectly free to tell me not to let the door hit me in the ass on the way out. Neither of us are going to be arrested for it. THAT is what free speech is. Freedom of speech has to do with GOVT limitations (or lack thereof, as it is), not individual repercussions.

You are right and I should have been more clear.

You have free speech - but not without reprecussions.

You can't sue them for firing you because they didn't "accept your filthy mouth" (or whatever).

I should have made that more clear.
 
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