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Blumenthal's words on Vietnam Service differ from History

Media matters, and moveon.org are "news organizations" to you?


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ADK is like far too many Obama supporters, ignores that which refutes his rhetoric. How anyone can claim in a tag line that Obama has restored honor to the WH is beyond any reasonable thinking person.

ADK and others quote Media Matters and Moveon almost daily yet ignore when those so called experts' credibility is destroyed.

Some simply want so badly to believe what they are told by this Administration and their supporters that they don't realize how foolish they look and how that support destroys credibility. Guess they simply have no pride in themselves.
 
ADK is like far too many Obama supporters, ignores that which refutes his rhetoric. How anyone can claim in a tag line that Obama has restored honor to the WH is beyond any reasonable thinking person.

ADK and others quote Media Matters and Moveon almost daily yet ignore when those so called experts' credibility is destroyed.

Some simply want so badly to believe what they are told by this Administration and their supporters that they don't realize how foolish they look and how that support destroys credibility.

Dear, dear, dear Conservative, if you can find the last time I quoted Moveon, please link to it. Some sites are too left for me but, that doesn't mean I think they're liars, like you guys insinute. If they had info on it that I thought was true, I would certainly post it. Usually, I'll find something somewhere else first.

Rightees use that tactic of attacking and belittling left leaning websites thinking people won't use them just so they're not attacked for using them by you rightees. That tactic is old, very old indeed. And it only intimidates the weak.

The problem people like you have is that you won't look anywhere for facts except on your small group of right wing sites (or your 3 favorite gov't sites that give out of context charts). When people post links to your fav right wing sites, I will actually look at them. I actually have found some interesting facts/ideas on AmericanThinker and Fixed Noise. Not many, but some. You guys also think that any site that doesn't agree with you is a left wing only site. You miss a lot with those blinders on.

Guess they simply have no pride in themselves

And... in typical rightee fashion, when you can't argue with actual facts you must go the bully route and resort to personal insults. Do you, and others who do the same, really think name calling does anything but, point the light of insecurity on yourself:confused: :roll:
 
Dear, dear, dear Conservative, if you can find the last time I quoted Moveon, please link to it. Some sites are too left for me but, that doesn't mean I think they're liars, like you guys insinute. If they had info on it that I thought was true, I would certainly post it. Usually, I'll find something somewhere else first.

Rightees use that tactic of attacking and belittling left leaning websites thinking people won't use them just so they're not attacked for using them by you rightees. That tactic is old, very old indeed. And it only intimidates the weak.

The problem people like you have is that you won't look anywhere for facts except on your small group of right wing sites (or your 3 favorite gov't sites that give out of context charts). When people post links to your fav right wing sites, I will actually look at them. I actually have found some interesting facts/ideas on AmericanThinker and Fixed Noise. Not many, but some. You guys also think that any site that doesn't agree with you is a left wing only site. You miss a lot with those blinders on.


And... in typical rightee fashion, when you can't argue with actual facts you must go the bully route and resort to personal insults. Do you, and others who do the same, really think name calling does anything but, point the light of insecurity on yourself:confused: :roll:

You don't know from one day to the next what you post and that is what happens with liberals.

you attributed a quote contributed to GW Bush as fact then backed off and put it in the "questionable" category.

you claiming that you never quote Media Matters, Moveon.org, or any other leftwing source and claim that those quotes aren't factual?

Nothing insulting in my post as I pointed out the reality of liberalism. I am waiting for you to explain where that honor is that you claim that Obama has returned to the WH?

As for facts, my facts come from bea.gov, bls.gov, U.S. Treasury, and the U.S. Census all non partisan sites that report actual data. These aren't op ed sites which you seem to find credible only with leftwing sites.

the results generated by this President are there for all to see. I see no honor in those results but I do see a lot of promises that have been forgotten or downright ignored. let me know when GITMO closes! Let me know when the unemployment rate gets to that 8% level he promised the stimulus would create? Let me know when he will be cutting the deficit in half?

Apparently returning honor to the WH means taking unemployment from 11.9 million to over 15 million AFTER the stimulus plan was passed. Honor apparenlty is taking the debt from 10.6 trillion to over 13 trillion dollars in two years. Honor apparently is increasing the Bush defense budget and lobbing missiles into homes in Pakistan! Honor apparently is going around the country apologizing for the greatness of America? Honor is apparently calling the Arizona law racists when the Federal law is much tougher and there is nothing in the 17 page Arizona law that is racist.

You certainly have an interesting definition of honor.
 
You don't know from one day to the next what you post and that is what happens with liberals.

Prove it.

More generalizations when out of facts.

you attributed a quote contributed to GW Bush as fact then backed off and put it in the "questionable" category.

I don't expect you to understand this but, when I "looked" for proof of a statement I had seen attributed to Bush and found evidence that he may not have said it, I withdrew it. THAT is the difference between you and I.

you claiming that you never quote Media Matters, Moveon.org, or any other leftwing source and claim that those quotes aren't factual?

Is that what I said:confused: This is another fav tactic of yours, misquotes and misdirections.

Nothing insulting in my post ...

Your posts are overflowing with insults, especially when anyone disagrees with you.

You certainly have an interesting definition of honor.

More insults:confused:
 
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Hey, how about we talk about Blumenthal?
 
Prove it.

More generalizations when out of facts.



I don't expect you to understand this but, when I "looked" for proof of a statement I had seen attributed to Bush and found evidence that he may not have said it, I withdrew it. THAT is the difference between you and I.



Is that what I said:confused: This is another fav tactic of yours, misquotes and misdirections.



Your posts are overflowing with insults, especially when anyone disagrees with you.



More insults:confused:

You are certainly confused and continue to be confused. it isn't an insult when proven wrong.

"Your" President promised to cut the deficit in half but instead has quadrupled it?

"Your" President promised the stimulus plan would cap unemployment at 8% and it is now over 10% including the discouraged. 11.9 million people were unemployed in January 2009 and it is over 15.2 million today. Govt. revenue continues to drop due to the failure to create jobs.

"Your" President promised to close GITMO within a year, that year has come and gone and another promise broken.

"Your" President has increased the defense Budget and has implemented the Bush Iraq policy. Another promise broken.

yes, ADK, "your" President is an empty suit and your claim that he is bringing honor to the WH says it all about someone out of touch with reality and someone who always calls presenting facts an insult.
 
It is this type of bold faced lying by politicians that eventually bring rise to new and progressive political movements and parties. I don't care which side of the rock you are on I joined the Tea Party Patriots for two reasons. First, sick of liars and second they are along the lines of my views and hopes for America and I hope real hard they become a powerful force of influence. If someone ojects to them I would suggest not going the route of the democrat party............especially now.
The most important insult of this lie is the 56,000 dead and quarter million injured who actuallly did go and paid the price. He must be made to apologize to every family here and in other countries that lost their children while he hid behind his mothers apron.
 
It is this type of bold faced lying by politicians that eventually bring rise to new and progressive political movements and parties. I don't care which side of the rock you are on I joined the Tea Party Patriots for two reasons. First, sick of liars and second they are along the lines of my views and hopes for America and I hope real hard they become a powerful force of influence. If someone ojects to them I would suggest not going the route of the democrat party............especially now.
The most important insult of this lie is the 56,000 dead and quarter million injured who actuallly did go and paid the price. He must be made to apologize to every family here and in other countries that lost their children while he hid behind his mothers apron.
oh stop......both sides lie, and tea partiers lie as well. and i'm not even going to discuss the republican war evaders.

he's shameless, but this isn't political.
 
of course i do...NOW i know he's a liar.

He's a politician, so yuo knew he was a liar before that.

What you didn't know was that he was a total douche bag liar who was actually worse than normal for a politician. :mrgreen:

I agree that his political party is totally irrelevant to that, though.
 
It is this type of bold faced lying by politicians that eventually bring rise to new and progressive political movements and parties. I don't care which side of the rock you are on I joined the Tea Party Patriots for two reasons. First, sick of liars and second they are along the lines of my views and hopes for America and I hope real hard they become a powerful force of influence. If someone ojects to them I would suggest not going the route of the democrat party............especially now.
The most important insult of this lie is the 56,000 dead and quarter million injured who actuallly did go and paid the price.
He must be made to apologize to every family here and in other countries that lost their children while he hid behind his mothers apron.

blumenthal's mother and her apron were at parris island?
cite please
 
oh stop......both sides lie, and tea partiers lie as well. and i'm not even going to discuss the republican war evaders.

he's shameless, but this isn't political.


It was political the moment he tried to lie about this in hopes of gaining a political seat by using the lie.

It was political
It was intentional
It was despicable.

This character shouldn't be in charge of anything higher than what pump would you like that $20 on.....


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I think this is really overblown. If he wasn't on record 90% of the time being accurate about his service that would be one thing.

But claiming he lied demands a conclusion that he knew what he said was wrong when he really did serve during the time period of Vietnam just not in Vietnam. But again since he is on record multiple times being accurate about his service, deception seems to be a very low probability.
 
Are you people that are leftist leaning so devoid of character you simply cannot say..."YEP...geez...that was stupid...and its probably gonna cost him..." and then 'move-on'...instead of trying to defend him? Holy crap. He's a scumbag politician. He screwed up. He's not the first. He wont be the last. But you dont have to defend every freqin thing...it just makes you look as bad as he is...no...WORSE...because you KNOW better...
 
I think this is really overblown. If he wasn't on record 90% of the time being accurate about his service that would be one thing.

But claiming he lied demands a conclusion that he knew what he said was wrong when he really did serve during the time period of Vietnam just not in Vietnam. But again since he is on record multiple times being accurate about his service, deception seems to be a very low probability.

Good lord....the lengths lefties will go to defend the indefensible is astounding!

Did you craft a similar delusion excusing Cheney's deferments? Bush's?
 
Good lord....the lengths lefties will go to defend the indefensible is astounding!

Did you craft a similar delusion excusing Cheney's deferments? Bush's?

the difference is that unlike blumenthal, they had nothing to exculpate them to excuse their chickenhawk behavior as texmaster has for the democrat
 
the difference is that unlike blumenthal, they had nothing to exculpate them to excuse their chickenhawk behavior as texmaster has for the democrat

This is a perfect example of what is wrong with this country today, people simple cannot admit when wrong and allow ideology to trump right and wrong.

GW Bush was demonized for 8 years starting with the election of 2000. He was never accepted by the far left and demonized at every point. Many Conservatives will never forget that and will use that opportunity to "return the favor" to their Democrat "friends."

Blumenthal was absolutely wrong in his statements and his acceptance of blame however comes a little late and a dollar short. Claiming "mistatements", plural tells me a lot about this individual and regardless of ideology disqualifies him from my vote IF I were a resident of Connecticut. It has nothing to do with party but everything to do with character.
 
This is a perfect example of what is wrong with this country today, people simple cannot admit when wrong and allow ideology to trump right and wrong.

GW Bush was demonized for 8 years starting with the election of 2000. He was never accepted by the far left and demonized at every point. Many Conservatives will never forget that and will use that opportunity to "return the favor" to their Democrat "friends."

Blumenthal was absolutely wrong in his statements and his acceptance of blame however comes a little late and a dollar short. Claiming "mistatements", plural tells me a lot about this individual and regardless of ideology disqualifies him from my vote IF I were a resident of Connecticut. It has nothing to do with party but everything to do with character.

I think it goes far deeper than admitting right and wrong. Leftist's seem programmed to uphold "the agenda" at all costs, and use every Alinsky tactic, every opportunity to lie or obfuscate, and every opportunity to savagely insult ideological opposition to that end. Their "Means to an end" methods are as obvious as the hair growing out of the wart on my nose, and the "citizen class" mutiny currently occurring will make for a fine comeuppance come November.
 
I think it goes far deeper than admitting right and wrong. Leftist's seem programmed to uphold "the agenda" at all costs, and use every Alinsky tactic, every opportunity to lie or obfuscate, and every opportunity to savagely insult ideological opposition to that end. Their "Means to an end" methods are as obvious as the hair growing out of the wart on my nose, and the "citizen class" mutiny currently occurring will make for a fine comeuppance come November.

Don't tell me you think this is one-sided.
 
Don't tell me you think this is one-sided.

No. We are in two different trains on two different tracks heading for the same depot....one just happens to be a bullet train, and I don't think I need to elaborate on who its engineers are. :)
 
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Good lord....the lengths lefties will go to defend the indefensible is astounding!

Did you craft a similar delusion excusing Cheney's deferments? Bush's?

Texmaster is about as far from being a lefty as is possible.
 
Are you people that are leftist leaning so devoid of character you simply cannot say..."YEP...geez...that was stupid...and its probably gonna cost him..." and then 'move-on'...instead of trying to defend him? Holy crap. He's a scumbag politician. He screwed up. He's not the first. He wont be the last. But you dont have to defend every freqin thing...it just makes you look as bad as he is...no...WORSE...because you KNOW better...

You mean like most of the left leaning people did in this thread?
 
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