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Blumenthal's words on Vietnam Service differ from History

TurtleDude said:
Blumenthal?s Words Differ From His History - NYTimes.com

Major ouch time for the Dem who would take over from Dodd
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Major Doh! Jesus, didn't even serve at all?! This trumps the whole Hilary Sniper Fire fiasco, at least she was IN that part of the world lol!

I can really only sum this up with one visual image

PS: name of ship obviously has nothing to do with anything.

ShipSinking-1.jpg
 
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I mean technically he served during Vietnam... maybe he told himself he was a Vietnam Veteran so many times for so many years he forgot it wasn't really true. They say a lie told often enough becomes the truth.
 
Astonishingly dumb, and there's no way that he can get away with pretending this was an accident.

Especially brutal given that he looked to be one of the few candidates who had a relatively easy path ahead of him: Election 2010: Connecticut Senate - Rasmussen Reports

Edit: The party may have been incredibly lucky with the timing of this report. There's a week left before the filing deadline, so they still have a chance to bring in another candidate.
 
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Deuce said:
I mean technically he served during Vietnam... maybe he told himself he was a Vietnam Veteran so many times for so many years he forgot it wasn't really true. They say a lie told often enough becomes the truth.
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It sounds more messed up than that:

Even if you aren't offended by Blumenthal's actions, this is an extremely strange thing to lie about. It's a lie that any enterprising reporter with a Freedom of Information Request could have uncovered, as Hernandez eventually did (why it took the rest of media so long is a good question). As with John Edwards' affair -- it is a lie that displays a stunning disregard for the trust that Democrats were about to place in Blumenthal by making him their nominee. It is a lie that may even call into question the mental state of the candidate, as it carries no obvious tactical benefit. Moreover, it may be part of a pattern: the Times also reports "on a less serious matter" that Blumenthal may have also misled reporters about being the captain of Harvard's swim team (in fact, he wasn't on the team at all.)
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FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: In Connecticut, Dems May Need to Draft New Candidate
 
I'd love to understand the psychology of not only Bluumenthal but his handlers - how did they think this was not going to get out? By all accounts this guy coveted Dodd's seat for decades and had asperations to run for higher office. What is his motivation to make a claim publicly - on the record and frequently - that he's was IN Vietnam when he knows... he KNOWS it's a lie? And then, even if it WAS by chance a misquote or a mischaracterization - how is it not corrected? And there's been multiple chances to be corrected all of which were passed?

Does this guy not know his political enemy's are looking and waiting to pounce?

Supposedly there will be a press conference this morning --- and the Morning Joe group early this morning claim that Blumenthal will blame the NY Times for a hit piece. Just sad... he reflects what "out of touch" means and he's not even in office.
 
i would never vote for him.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Major Doh! Jesus, didn't even serve at all?! This trumps the whole Hilary Sniper Fire fiasco, at least she was IN that part of the world lol!

I can really only sum this up with one visual image

PS: name of ship obviously has nothing to do with anything.

ShipSinking-1.jpg
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he served, just not in vietnam.
 
he was careless
but the fact is that blumenthal IS a veteran of the vietnam era, with half a year at parris island to show for it
his DD214 will reflect that fact
... he served as a member of the United State Marine Corps Reserve during the Vietnam era ...
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looks like a ripe opportunity to compare how blumenthal comported himself to that politically connected flyboy who protected texas from the viet cong until he got too coked up to report to the flight surgeon for his qualifying physical, and let's also compare military credentials with the fellow who would become the shrub's VP

yes, let's do continue this discussion and these comparisons
 
justabubba said:
he was careless
but the fact is that blumenthal IS a veteran of the vietnam era, with half a year at parris island to show for it
his DD214 will reflect that fact

looks like a ripe opportunity to compare how blumenthal comported himself to that politically connected flyboy who protected texas from the viet cong until he got too coked up to report to the flight surgeon for his qualifying physical, and let's also compare military credentials with the fellow who would become the shrub's VP

yes, let's do continue this discussion and these comparisons
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Careless is using the wrong word or being a little to harsh. An outright lie however, on multiple occasions without a correction over YEARS... is another thing. And if I remember correctly, the "shrub" actually flew a plane and to my knowledge didn't claim he shot down the Cong while on a drinking binge... all of which in this context is irrelevant but please, continue to try and derail this and defend this guy's outright blatant and conscious lie in public. It's entertaining as hell.
 
justabubba said:
he was careless
but the fact is that blumenthal IS a veteran of the vietnam era, with half a year at parris island to show for it
his DD214 will reflect that fact

looks like a ripe opportunity to compare how blumenthal comported himself to that politically connected flyboy who protected texas from the viet cong until he got too coked up to report to the flight surgeon for his qualifying physical, and let's also compare military credentials with the fellow who would become the shrub's VP

yes, let's do continue this discussion and these comparisons
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There's a huge difference from saying "Since I served during the Vietnam era" and "since the days that I served in Vietnam".
 
Tucker Case said:
There's a huge difference from saying "Since I served during the Vietnam era" and "since the days that I served in Vietnam".
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yes, he was careless. and quite possibly, intentionally so, to puff his cv
but i find those who defended the chickenhawks like cheney and the service record of the shrub hypocritical when they now want to take pot shots at blumenthal
 
justabubba said:
yes, he was careless. and quite possibly, intentionally so, to puff his cv
but i find those who defended the chickenhawks like cheney and the service record of the shrub hypocritical when they now want to take pot shots at blumenthal
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That's not careless, it's lying.

I don't see anyone defending Cheney here.
 
justabubba said:
he was careless
but the fact is that blumenthal IS a veteran of the vietnam era, with half a year at parris island to show for it
his DD214 will reflect that fact

looks like a ripe opportunity to compare how blumenthal comported himself to that politically connected flyboy who protected texas from the viet cong until he got too coked up to report to the flight surgeon for his qualifying physical, and let's also compare military credentials with the fellow who would become the shrub's VP

yes, let's do continue this discussion and these comparisons
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Bush claimed he served in Vietnam or are you trying too hard again to bring bush into an irrellevant discussion?
 
What an ass, so he lied where he served in order to score point. :thumbdown
 
justabubba said:
yes, he was careless. and quite possibly, intentionally so, to puff his cv
but i find those who defended the chickenhawks like cheney and the service record of the shrub hypocritical when they now want to take pot shots at blumenthal
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Careless?



D00d lied about his service. He's pretty much a fraud who deserves a punch in the mouth. Bush didn't lie about his service, and yet you want to compare the two?


Shameful.
 
Maybe he once worked as a waiter in a restaurant in Vietnam? Then you could say it was "careless".
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Careless?



D00d lied about his service. He's pretty much a fraud who deserves a punch in the mouth. Bush didn't lie about his service, and yet you want to compare the two?


Shameful.
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So true! It shameful that this candidate lied about his service, but I recalled correctly here didn't Bush say he served six year instead of four years? He got mixed up with how many years he served, but I wouldn't count that as lying about where he served. A review of President Bush's National Guard years raises issues about the time he served - US News and World Report
 
LOL

Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush.................

The brainwashing is complete.
 
RyrineaHaruno said:
So true! It shameful that this candidate lied about his service, but I recalled correctly here didn't Bush say he served six year instead of four years? He got mixed up with how many years he served, but I wouldn't count that as lying about where he served. A review of President Bush's National Guard years raises issues about the time he served - US News and World Report
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I served 9 years, I often say 8, for some reason, my enlistment, is what's stuck in my head, not actual time. :shrug:


I don't think Bush was being malicious as this d00d was, I think he just possibly got it mixed up. There is no benefit to lying about 2 additional years of service.


Now if he claimed we was an army seal who flew a-10's for the marines, that would be something. :cool:
 
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