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7-year-old girl killed in Detroit police raid

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(CNN) -- Police in Detroit, Michigan, on Sunday expressed "profound sorrow" at the fatal shooting of a 7-year-old girl in a police raid.

Aiyana Jones was shot and killed by police executing a search warrant as part of a homicide investigation, Assistant Chief Ralph Godbee said in a statement.

"This is any parent's worst nightmare," Godbee said. "It also is any police officer's worst nightmare. And today, it is all too real."

The warrant was executed about 12:40 a.m. ET Sunday at a home on the city's east side, Godbee said. Authorities believed the suspect in the Friday shooting death of 17-year-old high school student Jarean Blake was hiding out at the home. Blake was gunned down in front of a store as his girlfriend watched, Godbee said.
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Upon entering the home, the officer encountered a 46-year-old female inside the front room, Godbee said. "Exactly what happened next is a matter still under investigation, but it appears the officer and the woman had some level of physical contact.

"At about this time, the officer's weapon discharged one round which, tragically, struck 7-year-old Aiyana Stanley Jones in the neck/head area."
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7-year-old girl killed in Detroit police raid - CNN.com

Seems to me someone was a little too jittery.
 
This sounds like a terribly avoidable tragedy.

It's always dangerous when police officers use flashbangs in residential houses, but it's also dangerous to harbor murderers and then "tussle" with police officers when they try to catch said murderer.
 
This is sad. It's sad that the girls was growing up with parents that were dangerous and flaky. It's tragic that she got caught in the crossfire.

My daughters are so lucky. They are blond, blue-eyed, intelligent, stable, and both got new iPods today. I did make them watch Sweatshop girl to remind them of their good fortune. Life ain't fair.
 
Jetboogieman said:
7-year-old girl killed in Detroit police raid - CNN.com

Seems to me someone was a little too jittery.
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It's a horrible thing that happened but how do you come to this conclusion?
The story linked said was there was physical contact. That makes it sound like an altercation, not someone being too "jittery". I wouldn't tussle with an armed cop for the very reason a bullet could go stray. (well, there are a lot of reasons I wouldn't tussle with a cop; that is just one of them).
 
Dix said:
It's a horrible thing that happened but how do you come to this conclusion?
The story linked said was there was physical contact. That makes it sound like an altercation, not someone being too "jittery". I wouldn't tussle with an armed cop for the very reason a bullet could go stray. (well, there are a lot of reasons I wouldn't tussle with a cop; that is just one of them).
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I'm not blaming anyone, in the line of duty and under such circumstances it's hard to distiungish targets sometimes. But physical contact? Look, I bet all these officers are fine officers, would never doubt that.

But... and I can't blame them for it, would they be willing to say they accidently shot her during the physical contact, so that their buddy would have a better chance not to get in trouble? It's just a possibility, but possible.

My theory is that one of them simply accidently shot her on the way in. The chances of physical contact causing an officer highly trained in armed combat, to accidently fire a round that would happen to hit the girl in the head/neck area, is highly unlikely.

I'm sure whoever did it, did not at all do it intentially, and will probably never forgive themselves for it.
 
Attorney: Video shows police fired into home - Crime & courts- msnbc.com

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DETROIT - Police who carried out a raid on a family home that left a 7-year-old girl dead over the weekend were accompanied by a camera crew for a reality television show, and an attorney says video of the siege contradicts the police account of what happened.

‘It's not an accident’
But Fieger said the video shows an officer lobbing the grenade and then shooting into the home from the porch.

"There is no question about what happened because it's in the videotape," Fieger said. "It's not an accident. It's not a mistake. There was no altercation."
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Apparently it's on video, the officer fired into the home from the porch.
That officer better end up in jail.
 
Areopagitican said:
I don't believe anyone could do anything worse than what the policeofficer is doing to himself.
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Assuming he cares...The possibility exists that he does not, although it is slim.
 
But Fieger said the video shows an officer lobbing the grenade and then shooting into the home from the porch. "There is no question about what happened because it's in the videotape," Fieger said. "It's not an accident. It's not a mistake. There was no altercation."

"Aiyana Jones was shot from outside on the porch. The videotape shows clearly the officer throwing through the window a stun grenade-type explosive and then within milliseconds of throwing that, firing a shot from outside the home," he said.

A&E spokesman Dan Silberman said neither he nor anyone else from the network would comment about the case, and he denied a request by The Associated Press for the footage. Detroit police were trying to obtain the film crew's footage, Assistant Chief Ralph Godbee said Monday.
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So this attorney says that he's seen a video taped by network people following the police, but the police themselves haven't seen the video yet?
 
RightinNYC said:
So this attorney says that he's seen a video taped by network people following the police, but the police themselves haven't seen the video yet?
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Since the network people are whores, my bet is that they are holding out for money. :mrgreen:
 
Deuce said:
Attorney: Video shows police fired into home - Crime & courts- msnbc.com

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Apparently it's on video, the officer fired into the home from the porch.
That officer better end up in jail.
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This is sick... why would the cop have fired into the house before getting into the house??

I'm suriprised that the standard response didn't come up 'the camera was off'...

Well, I've been hearing lately about a bunch of swat teams doing drug checks, and whenever a dog would bark they'd shoot it dead... maybe this is how these swat cops escalate.

It's a sad shame what's happening to the country.
 
BmanMcfly said:
This is sick... why would the cop have fired into the house before getting into the house??

I'm suriprised that the standard response didn't come up 'the camera was off'...

Well, I've been hearing lately about a bunch of swat teams doing drug checks, and whenever a dog would bark they'd shoot it dead... maybe this is how these swat cops escalate.

It's a sad shame what's happening to the country.
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Probably because he had a serious case of nerves and job burnout. He needs to be fired and seek another line of work.
 
MyOwnDrum said:
Probably because he had a serious case of nerves and job burnout. He needs to be fired and seek another line of work.
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Well I think if what is all said here turns out to be true, that there should be criminal charges as well. It's not an "oh well, I'll try McDonald's" sort of thing. A girl is dead. A cop did it. If the depiction of the events is true as they say from the video...then the dude needs to go to jail for a little while. We'd throw a normal person in jail for discharging their weapon into a house and killing a child as a result.
 
Ikari said:
Well I think if what is all said here turns out to be true, that there should be criminal charges as well. It's not an "oh well, I'll try McDonald's" sort of thing. A girl is dead. A cop did it. If the depiction of the events is true as they say from the video...then the dude needs to go to jail for a little while. We'd throw a normal person in jail for discharging their weapon into a house and killing a child as a result.
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I usually give the cops the benefit of the doubt but not this time. If you read the OP, this cop basically did the same thing the perp they were tracking. This guy should be formally indicted, charged, tried and convicted. It's inexcusable - a mistake cost a little girl her life. The cops of course will try to spin it so they do not look so bad however, Internal Affairs should be on this guy and so should the prosecutors office. No excuse - this guy has to go down and hard. He can think about his **** up for the next 20 years.
 
Ikari said:
Well I think if what is all said here turns out to be true, that there should be criminal charges as well. It's not an "oh well, I'll try McDonald's" sort of thing. A girl is dead. A cop did it. If the depiction of the events is true as they say from the video...then the dude needs to go to jail for a little while. We'd throw a normal person in jail for discharging their weapon into a house and killing a child as a result.
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True. Criminal negligence leading to a death? How does that sound?
 
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