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Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

USA-1 said:
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Respecting the flag?
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"sacred monkeys" FAIL


:lamo
 
Bill O'Reilly asks the questions that I've been trying ask this entire thread.

Why? Why choose that day to make the statement they wanted to make?

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJWGiWnsg4Y&feature=related"]YouTube- Bill O'Reilly Interviews Parents Of Kids Sent Home For Wearing U.S. Flag Shirt[/nomedia]
 
hazlnut said:
Did you watch the video, Rev?

The blank looks on the mother's faces are telling.
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I did, other than the chicanos attacking the handicapped dood, the only other thing I noticed, is apparently tapout gear and old navy is somehow "offensive"?



That's sad.... And I find it funny watching libs use O'reilly... :lamo
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
That's sad.... And I find it funny watching libs use O'reilly... :lamo
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Not as funny as I find far-rightie teabaggers identifying as Libertarians.

So, since the mothers couldn't answer the question, then why don't you take a shot: Why? Why did the boys choose that day to show their American pride? And what statement were they trying to make?
 
hazlnut said:
Not as funny as I find far-rightie teabaggers identifying as Libertarians.

So, since the mothers couldn't answer the question, then why don't you take a shot: Why? Why did the boys choose that day to show their American pride? And what statement were they trying to make?
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I'm thinking these young men have been watching the immigration debate unfold and decided to make a statement about America still belonging to Americans despite Corona y Limon day. And being that two of the boys were of Latino decent themselves, I think it's clear they were showing their patriotism and loyalty to their home.

And some chicanos got butthurt about it and complained so the boys had their expression of individuality and patriotism suppressed to keep the savages from getting restless.
 
hazlnut said:
Not as funny as I find far-rightie teabaggers identifying as Libertarians.

So, since the mothers couldn't answer the question, then why don't you take a shot: Why? Why did the boys choose that day to show their American pride? And what statement were they trying to make?
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Why should an American have to apologize for wearing something American.....ever?
 
jallman said:
I'm thinking these young men have been watching the immigration debate unfold and decided to make a statement about America still belonging to Americans despite Corona y Limon day. And being that two of the boys were of Latino decent themselves, I think it's clear they were showing their patriotism and loyalty to their home.

And some chicanos got butthurt about it and complained so the boys had their expression of individuality and patriotism suppressed to keep the savages from getting restless.
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The "offensive shirts" were two old navy shirts, and two "tap-out" shirts apparently.
 
Erod said:
Why should an American have to apologize for wearing something American.....ever?
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when it violates accepted flag etiquette
 
I've been mulling this over for a few days now and I've got to the conclusion that a lot of this division about Flag Code, particularly whether or not a flag on a t-shirt really is a flag or not, is the two sides talking past each other.

Reading the Flag Code, it is unequivocal that flags are not the be worn as apparel, and can only appear on clothing in the limited circumstances of lapel pins worn above the heart and patches sewn on patriotic uniforms. There is no other circumstance where a Flag can be worn that is not a violation of the Code, that much is clear.

What is not so clear, and what I have perhaps wrongly been taking for granted, is that a violation of the Flag Code is necessarily disrespectful. A violation of Flag Code is just that, a violation of a voluntary law. It is not a crime, you cannot be jailed or fined for violating Flag Code. I think that respect perhaps has more to do with the person's intention than the letter of the law. For someone like myself, who is aware of and understand the restrictions contained in the Flag Code, wearing a flag is necessarily a disrespectful action, and something I would never do. On the other hand, for someone unaware of the nature of the Flag Code, or someone who has read it and (bona fide) misunderstood it, then the action of wearing the flag might still very well carry with it the intention of respect for the flag and the country it represents.

Of course, this does not change the rules put forth by the Flag Code, but perhaps I have been too overbearing in my tone in this discussion. I want to help my brother and sister Americans to understand the true nature of their actions, to win them over to the proper interpretation of the Flag Code. I don't want to deepen the divide and harden you to position by preaching at you. So I will say this much, that when you wear the on a t-shirt, with respect in your heart and an honest misunderstanding of the rules, it is only a technical desecration. I can't really say that you are desecrating the Flag in spirit
 
Guy Incognito said:
I've been mulling this over for a few days now and I've got to the conclusion that a lot of this division about Flag Code, particularly whether or not a flag on a t-shirt really is a flag or not, is the two sides talking past each other.

Reading the Flag Code, it is unequivocal that flags are not the be worn as apparel, and can only appear on clothing in the limited circumstances of lapel pins worn above the heart and patches sewn on patriotic uniforms. There is no other circumstance where a Flag can be worn that is not a violation of the Code, that much is clear.

What is not so clear, and what I have perhaps wrongly been taking for granted, is that a violation of the Flag Code is necessarily disrespectful. A violation of Flag Code is just that, a violation of a voluntary law. It is not a crime, you cannot be jailed or fined for violating Flag Code. I think that respect perhaps has more to do with the person's intention than the letter of the law. For someone like myself, who is aware of and understand the restrictions contained in the Flag Code, wearing a flag is necessarily a disrespectful action, and something I would never do. On the other hand, for someone unaware of the nature of the Flag Code, or someone who has read it and (bona fide) misunderstood it, then the action of wearing the flag might still very well carry with it the intention of respect for the flag and the country it represents.

Of course, this does not change the rules put forth by the Flag Code, but perhaps I have been too overbearing in my tone in this discussion. I want to help my brother and sister Americans to understand the true nature of their actions, to win them over to the proper interpretation of the Flag Code. I don't want to deepen the divide and harden you to position by preaching at you. So I will say this much, that when you wear the on a t-shirt, with respect in your heart and an honest misunderstanding of the rules, it is only a technical desecration. I can't really say that you are desecrating the Flag in spirit
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I will concede that. Thank you for such a thoughtful post.
 
Thanks jallman, I appreciate the spirited debate with Redbeard, Hellhound and yourself.
 
justabubba said:
when it violates accepted flag etiquette
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It didn't violate anything. The principal of that school is a racist and the school board has already stated his actions were inappropriate.
 
Guy Incognito said:
I've been mulling this over for a few days now and I've got to the conclusion that a lot of this division about Flag Code, particularly whether or not a flag on a t-shirt really is a flag or not, is the two sides talking past each other.

Reading the Flag Code, it is unequivocal that flags are not the be worn as apparel, and can only appear on clothing in the limited circumstances of lapel pins worn above the heart and patches sewn on patriotic uniforms. There is no other circumstance where a Flag can be worn that is not a violation of the Code, that much is clear.

What is not so clear, and what I have perhaps wrongly been taking for granted, is that a violation of the Flag Code is necessarily disrespectful. A violation of Flag Code is just that, a violation of a voluntary law. It is not a crime, you cannot be jailed or fined for violating Flag Code. I think that respect perhaps has more to do with the person's intention than the letter of the law. For someone like myself, who is aware of and understand the restrictions contained in the Flag Code, wearing a flag is necessarily a disrespectful action, and something I would never do. On the other hand, for someone unaware of the nature of the Flag Code, or someone who has read it and (bona fide) misunderstood it, then the action of wearing the flag might still very well carry with it the intention of respect for the flag and the country it represents.

Of course, this does not change the rules put forth by the Flag Code, but perhaps I have been too overbearing in my tone in this discussion. I want to help my brother and sister Americans to understand the true nature of their actions, to win them over to the proper interpretation of the Flag Code. I don't want to deepen the divide and harden you to position by preaching at you. So I will say this much, that when you wear the on a t-shirt, with respect in your heart and an honest misunderstanding of the rules, it is only a technical desecration. I can't really say that you are desecrating the Flag in spirit
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As long as the article being worn was not made from a real flag; i.e. a reproduction, it's NOT a violation of the flag code. Wearing a picture of a flag is not a bad thing.

:)
 
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