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Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

disneydude said:
This was about some students purposefully seeking to create a disturbance in the school.
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....and protesting at a U.S. Marine's funeral was about seeking to create a disturbance and attention. Yet, they were free to "celebrate" their rights. Why are four kids with American shirts the bad guys here? You people can't have it both ways.
 
Mickey Shane said:
There is either a dress code, or there isn't.
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So the dress code is no shirts with American flags on them on specific days? No matter how you try to slice it and defend it this vice principal screwed up.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
If the American flag offends them so much, perhaps they should move back to mexico. :shrug:



BTW... "cinco de mayo" is a crock holiday, its only mildy celebrated in the small state of puebla Mexico and at chili's, taco bell, and chevy's fresh mex, so we gringos buy fake mexican food and bottom shelf watered down margarhitas.
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Rev:

I thought your OP, though over the top, was correct. They should not have been sent home. I think there's some aspects of the story we're not getting, like threats made against the boys, or a history of the boys conduct in the school, but regarding this specific incident, it was wrong to send them home.

But this post, the your second one, is where you lose me... as soon as your distaste for the incident turns to cheap racist remarks, your credibility and character goes right in the toilet...
 
hazlnut said:
Rev:

I thought your OP, though over the top, was correct. They should not have been sent home. I think there's some aspects of the story we're not getting, like threats made against the boys, or a history of the boys conduct in the school, but regarding this specific incident, it was wrong to send them home.

But this post, the your second one, is where you lose me... as soon as your distaste for the incident turns to cheap racist remarks, your credibility and character goes right in the toilet...
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There was nothing racist about what he said. It was 100% accurate.

Mexicans in mexico don't celebrate Cinco De Mayo. It's basically an American thing and it's pretty much just Happy Corona with Lime Day.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
This is sick, this principle should be fired, and the chicanos who are all but hurt about Americans wearing the American flag should STFU and get a life or repatriate to that dump of a country they came from.
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So where are the militant atheists getting all upset over the Mexican flag with it's religious symbolism being displayed in a public school?
 
If I was a parent to these students? I would make those on the schoolboards life a living hell and I do mean that. They would get an ear full and never get rid of me til they made it right cause this is all kinds of wrong.

I do not give a crap if these kids were doing this to piss other students off via peaceful protest by wearing their USA Flag T-Shirts. Suck it the hell up and deal. This is still the U.S.A. and that is that!
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
That's actually my point Captain. While the likleyhood that the principle is a liberal is hardly debateable, he in no way embodies or epitomizes the left wing in anyway shape or form....


If you were forced to wager everything you own on what his leaning was at gunpoint, what would you choose? That's all. ;)
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I would say his leaning was idiot.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
I am sorry you find the American flag so offensive. :shrug:
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Your post might have some significance if you weren't being so blatantly dishonest.

This has nothing to do with finding the American flag so offensive (although there are many of us that DO feel that it is a sign of disrespect to the flag to make it into clothing or use it as a fashion statement....but that's another thread altogether).
 
hazlnut said:
Rev:

I thought your OP, though over the top, was correct. They should not have been sent home. I think there's some aspects of the story we're not getting, like threats made against the boys, or a history of the boys conduct in the school, but regarding this specific incident, it was wrong to send them home.

But this post, the your second one, is where you lose me... as soon as your distaste for the incident turns to cheap racist remarks, your credibility and character goes right in the toilet...
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I see you brought a pail of fail with you. Hkw the eff is my post racist. :lamo
 
Erod said:
That would mean more if these Mexicans even knew what Cinco de Mayo was about. The vast majority have no clue.
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Most people in Mexico don't kow what the holiday is about. I do know the post office was closed. They take any reason to get a day off.
 
jallman said:
There was nothing racist about what he said. It was 100% accurate.
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Oh, really?

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
If the American flag offends them so much, perhaps they should move back to mexico. :shrug:
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The good old boy 'them people should go back to where they came from' is a classic bit of bigoted ignorance. As if the KKK ancestors just sprouted from the ground.


Mexicans in mexico don't celebrate Cinco De Mayo. It's basically an American thing and it's pretty much just Happy Corona with Lime Day.
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I guess coming from Alaska, I could see why you might not understand that many Mexican-Americans see it differently.

But, Rev's rant was racist--whether he realizes it or not:

BTW... "cinco de mayo" is a crock holiday, its only mildy celebrated in the small state of puebla Mexico and at chili's, taco bell, and chevy's fresh mex, so we gringos buy fake mexican food and bottom shelf watered down margarhitas.
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Demeaning a holiday... that's tolerance for ya.:roll:
 
hazlnut said:
Oh, really?



The good old boy 'them people should go back to where they came from' is a classic bit of bigoted ignorance. As if the KKK ancestors just sprouted from the ground.
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Nonsense, the idiocy of your post is a shining jewel of collosal failure. My point was that if they think the American flag is offensive, they should go to a place where the American flag is not flown. There is nothing racist about it.


FAIL


I guess coming from Alaska, I could see why you might not understand that many Mexican-Americans see it differently.
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By your idiotic standard, this statement would be "racist"


But, Rev's rant was racist--whether he realizes it or not:
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This is moronic. Your batting a thousand today. Race has nothing to do with it. sorry, you fail.



Demeaning a holiday... that's tolerance for ya.:roll:
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You do realize, that Cinco de Mayo is not celebrated in Mexico, and it uhm was marketed by Corona to sell gringos more mexican beer right?


I'll let you stew in your ignorance for a while. :lamo




<---------- Lived in New Mexico, Visited Mexico often.



FAIL
 
Catz Part Deux said:
I agree that this is ridiculous, but has there been a history of ethnic conflict on the school campus? The boys admittedly were wearing the shirt to get a rise out of Latino students and potentially start a conflict.

However, the principal needs to take a class on dress code do's and don'ts.
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Totally irrelevant.

So long as the flag wearing students were not instigating violence or class disruption by their deeds or words, and wearing clothing is neither a deed nor a word, any untoward event should have resulted in the punishment of the instigator, not the people simply exercising their First Amendment freedoms.

Mexican students who happen to be going to school in America need to learn that they must tolerate beliefs they don't like, they shouldn't be taught that if they whine loudly enough they'll be rewarded.
 
TheNextEra said:
Perhaps that is the reason, but don't you find it the least bit pathetic that these Latino's (in America) were pissed off about other American's displaying the American flag?

Just because someone is celebrating Cinco de Mayo in America, does not mean that everyone else cannot celebrate being an American by displaying the American flag.
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Don't waste your time trying to preach tolerance to a liberal.

They only demand tolerance when their ridiculous ideas are being discussed. They're very intolerant of reality and Americans.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Actually, it isn't irrelevant. Motive & effect are extremely important in school dress code issues.

For instance, I've seen schools ban wearing of rosaries and other religious symbols because gang members were using them to identify their affiliation at school (rosaries in the color of the usually latino gangs, the six-pointed star of david used to signify folks affiliation).

If the school deems the attire disruptive to the school climate, and is able to show that this has been the case by documenting exactly how the garment or item has been disruptive, the school can ban the attire.

The rights of students to free expression is trumped by the need to keep the school safe, and that has been consistently upheld in court.
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Shouldn't the school ban the disruptive people instead?

The People should lose THEIR freedoms because criminal elements abuse their exercise of it?
 
hazlnut said:
I guess coming from Alaska, I could see why you might not understand that many Mexican-Americans see it differently.
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I guess that just shows how ignorant you are considering all your pseudo-intellectual bluster. There is a huge latino population in Alaska and I didn't "come from Alaska". I lived there. I come from North Carolina where I grew up on a tobacco farm. That means I had lots of contact with Mexicans growing up. Lots.

Don't try to shove your lack of understanding off on me. Cinco de Mayo is nothing more than Happy Corona and Lime Day.
 
hazlnut said:
The good old boy 'them people should go back to where they came from' is a classic bit of bigoted ignorance. As if the KKK ancestors just sprouted from the ground.
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When Mexican students are getting upset because others don't feel like joining their celebration, they're the bigots and they're ignorant.

And they should go to wherever it is they think they belong, since they don't belong in the United States.
 
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