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Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

Why would that be laughable? If I'm going to do something annoying, you will share in the annoyance.

Thanks for admitting your goal isn't honest its just to deflect from the point you can't support your claim.

#1 is irrelevant since you were describing a general quality of the American left-wing, not a specific person in this thread.

I said far left. And I said far left in this thread and I provided an example. Please stop lying.

Define far left. Since most liberals espouse opinions that would be labeled 'far left' by conservatives, it should still be relatively common. Common enough for you to find ten people.

Calling this bill racist is far left as my example and argument showed.

BTW, this is the 5th time you've ducked admitting the fact you couldn't support your accusation with a quote of mine.
 
I am not necessarily for it or against it, but I fail to see how learning about other cultures would harm the country or the state of Arizona.

Again it does not say learning about. It says written for.

I agree, but I guess I am asking how there can be a legal distinction.

La Reconquista and LA Raza wrote historical documentation that was written to demonize other races and put a claim on the land specifically for their people.

That would be written for.
 
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Just point out that Gill also failed at his own rules. He said the most racist people he has known were northerners AND that they were from Chicago.

But according to his own map, they are Midwesterners, not northerners.

Which means that, apparently, I'm the only one who ever actually took a geography class. ;)

You are of course correct..... a thousand apologies. :lol:

To a true southerner, the south is the old confederacy and the north is all of the yankee states.

The rest of the states don't really matter. :rofl
 
La Reconquista and LA Raza wrote historical documentation that was written to demonize other races and put a claim on the land specifically for their people.

That would be written for.

I have no problem with the law affecting those groups, much like I would have no law affecting the KKK in a similar fashion.

This has a good possibility of affecting a kind hearted and well intentioned professor of Black studies though. the fact is, that black people are going to be disproportionally interested in this guy's class and a good case can be made that it was written for black people because it can easily be assumed that they will be the target audience. What is the legal distinction that protects the good guy but stops the bad guy?
 
Thanks for admitting your goal isn't honest its just to deflect from the point you can't support your claim.

I didn't admit that. I said I'm holding you to the same standard you are holding me, except you did it first, so the burden on you is more pressing.

I said far left. And I said far left in this thread and I provided an example. Please stop lying.

What is far left? Was health care reform far left? Was electing Obama, the alleged "most liberal Senator in the Senate," far left? Almost every liberal here supported those things. Like I said, it should be common. If it isn't common, then it can't be a left-wing tactic, far or otherwise.
 
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You are of course correct..... a thousand apologies. :lol:

To a true southerner, the south is the old confederacy and the north is all of the yankee states.

The rest of the states don't really matter. :rofl

:rofl:rofl

We yankees pretty much consider everything that wasn't one of the Union states the "south". Even places like Hawaii. :lol:
 
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We yankees pretty much consider everything that wasn't one of the Union states the "south". Even places like Hawaii. :lol:

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I'm having trouble trying to imagine these people waving Confederate flags and having handle bar mustaches.
 
Man, Arizona is just exposing its ignorance and bigotry more and more lately.

It's backwards laws like this that contribute to people thinking all of the south is backwards. Arizona should vote those imbeciles out of office asap! November should be very interesting.

Prohibits a school district or charter school from including in its program of instruction any courses or classes that:

Ø Promote the overthrow of the United States government.

Well then we we will need to ban all reference to the Confederacy. ALSO THE Faux Tea PARTY !!

Ø Promote resentment toward a race or class of people.

Well we will not be able to teach kids that there were native Americans living here when Columbuso accidently dumped into that island thinking he found India.


Ø Are designed primarily for pupils of a particular ethnic group.

So we cannot tell about he Pilgrims since they were all White, ANGLO-SAXON Protestants

Ø Advocate ethnic solidarity instead of the treatment of pupils as individuals

Wel that means that we will not be able to teach about the development of American Nationalism in the early 19th century!!
 
You need to re-read the communist manifesto and brush up on progressive evasion tactics

I'm not sure you can do that in Arizona.

16-806 - Proscription of Communist Party of United States, its successors, and subsidiary organizations

The Communist Party of the United States, or any successors of such party regardless of the assumed name, the object of which is to overthrow by force or violence the government of the United States, or the government of the state of Arizona, or its political subdivisions shall not be entitled to be recognized or certified as a political party under the laws of the state of Arizona and shall not be entitled to any of the privileges, rights or immunities attendant upon legal political bodies recognized under the laws of the state of Arizona, or any political subdivision thereof; whatever rights, privileges or immunities shall have heretofore been granted to said Communist Party of the United States as defined in this section, or to any of its subsidiary organizations, by reason of the laws of the state of Arizona, or of any political subdivision thereof, are hereby terminated and shall be void.

41-1463 - Discrimination; unlawful practices; definition

H. As used in this article, unlawful employment practice does not include any action or measure taken by an employer, labor organization, joint labor-management committee or employment agency with respect to an individual who is a member of the communist party of the United States or of any other organization required to register as a communist-action or communist-front organization by final order of the subversive activities control board pursuant to the subversive activities control act of 1950.

16-805 - Findings of fact and statement of public policy by the legislature of the state of Arizona concerning steps which must be taken to protect the fundamental rights of the citizens of this state and the safety of this state from international C

Findings of fact and statement of public policy by the legislature of the state of Arizona concerning steps which must be taken to protect the fundamental rights of the citizens of this state and the safety of this state from international Communistic conspiracy...In the United States and in this state those individuals who knowingly and willfully participate in the world Communist movement, when they so participate, in effect repudiate their allegiance to the United States and this state, and in effect transfer their allegiance to the foreign country in which is vested the direction and control of the world Communist movement.

Sometimes I wonder if Arizona isn't Alabama.
 
I think most of that is BS. It's the cog law. Make everyone feel as if they're just a piece of the cog. We should teach defiance of the government, protest and revolt, and the proper causes and necessities for it. It's an important tool of the people. Instead, this law seems like it wants to bring up children to go with whatever they are told to do without question or resolve for individual thought.

All of your complaints would be addressed if they just taught the Constitution. :mrgreen:
 
Conservatives love this but banning teaching non-science subjects (creationism/ID) in a science class? HOW DARE THE LIBERALS TELL US WHAT TO TEACH OUR KIDS!?

Nobody is telling you what you can teach your kids.... feel free to teach them anything you want.

However, what is taught in public schools is a whole different subject.
 
Thank god I don't live in Arizona.

That being said, the bill is their business, not mine. More power to 'em.

If they want to believe the liberal lie that the government will fix all of their problems, and that passing tons of laws is the answer, that's their choice.

3 laws are a ton of laws? Or is it just that those 3 laws have caused a bit of bed wetting in the liberal world?
 
You've a history of advancing the belief that affirmative action and entitlement programs that favor minorities are reverse racism. I wasn't referring to this thread specifically, although neither were you since you were descibing a perceived general quality of liberals.

Aren't they? How could they not be?
 
3 laws are a ton of laws? Or is it just that those 3 laws have caused a bit of bed wetting in the liberal world?

These laws are part of the liberal world where the government can solve every problem.

The fact that some other liberals are freaking out about it doesn't change the fact that these laws all stem from the same misguided liberal mindset that the government can "fix" things.

But, like I said, it's Arizona's business, not mine. I'm a conservative, so I don't really care about other States passing silly liberal laws. Just my own.
 
These laws are part of the liberal world where the government can solve every problem.

The fact that some other liberals are freaking out about it doesn't change the fact that these laws all stem from the same misguided liberal mindset that the government can "fix" things.

But, like I said, it's Arizona's business, not mine. I'm a conservative, so I don't really care about other States passing silly liberal laws. Just my own.

They can't be liberal laws....



















They are less than 2000 pages. :mrgreen:
 
I have no problem with the law affecting those groups, much like I would have no law affecting the KKK in a similar fashion.

Totally agree and I think that was the goal of this law.

This has a good possibility of affecting a kind hearted and well intentioned professor of Black studies though. the fact is, that black people are going to be disproportionally interested in this guy's class and a good case can be made that it was written for black people because it can easily be assumed that they will be the target audience. What is the legal distinction that protects the good guy but stops the bad guy?

Its going to come down to interpretation but I think the distinction can be made easily If you are teaching about a culture, what they did in history and their beliefs, no problem. If you teach that they must remain a separate entity from society and demonize other races then there's a problem.
 
Sometimes I wonder if Arizona isn't Alabama.

Ah our Reconquista friend is back. Yes I'm sure you of all people are vehemently against this law. It doesn't allow emphasis of race over nation. Oh well.


And thanks for the bigoted vision of Alabama. Staying true to form I see.
 
They can't be liberal laws....

They are less than 2000 pages. :mrgreen:

:lol:

Seriously, though, the problem is that "socially conservative" is all too often confused with politically conservative.

Many social conservatives are actually political liberals who think the passing laws will "fix" things.

Federal residency laws towards immigrants are a prime example of liberalism in action.

The State's themselves should be the only one's to decide residency requirements of immigrants who want to reside in said state. The feds are only empowered with the right to pass uniform laws regarding naturalization, not residency.

Arizona could pass a law banning all non-citizen immigrants (legal or illegal) from residing in Arizona tomorrow if they wanted to, and I would not have a problem with it (although I would say it was a stupid law). That would be their right.
 
By the way, even though I was born and raised in Chicago, I've got to agree with Gill that this town has sizable amount of overtly racist people in it.

I would say most of us aren't racist, but there are still way too many racists here.
 
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