Terrorist attacks decrease in Europe

Maximus Zeebra said:

This thread is about there only being 1 Islamic terrorism attack.

The fascists in America, including many of them on this forum wants you to believe Europe is being overrun by Islamic terror and Islamism.
This is just not the reality.

These things is the point of the thread.

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You've managed to create a fictional enemy, namely the american fascist, and you make it up along the way. At best, you don't understand what fascism means.

Maximus Zeebra said:

Like who? Who has surrendered a bit early? Is this another "French joke"? Because the French had no other choice than surrender or get annhiliated and bombed to pieces by a much stronger NAZI Germany.:screwy

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And its your fault for allowing yourself to be weak enough to be taken over by a country that lost a war to you just a few decades earlier.

Spain being the most noticeable.

They reversed an entire election because of one terrorist attack and went with the soft on terror socialist.

Terrorists love it when you give into fear. Well done.

Djoop said:

You've managed to create a fictional enemy, namely the american fascist, and you make it up along the way. At best, you don't understand what fascism means.

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Its not a fictional enemy, its very real. The problem is that American fascism has become to mainstream for you to understand how its fascist.

I dont want to go through every definition of fascism and how that works in the US case, but if I did, you would be convinced that the US mainstream politics is fascism, and that it has affected maintstream US thinking.

Please read up on fascism youself. Also get familiar with the toolbox of NAZI Germany, and compare that with the toolbox of current US politics.

Neither political party in the US is fascist this is an absurd discussion.

Deuce said:

Neither political party in the US is fascist this is an absurd discussion.

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Take a look at your own politics and understand it, when you do, you will understand that its not absurd, but maybe the biggest threat to the US and the world.

Maximus Zeebra said:

Its not a fictional enemy, its very real. The problem is that American fascism has become to mainstream for you to understand how its fascist.

I dont want to go through every definition of fascism and how that works in the US case, but if I did, you would be convinced that the US mainstream politics is fascism, and that it has affected maintstream US thinking.

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Wait a minute, are you saying that you're not willing to explain but if you would, I would be convinced? Are you serious?

Please read up on fascism youself. Also get familiar with the toolbox of NAZI Germany, and compare that with the toolbox of current US politics.

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I'm signatory to a treaty with Andalablue that states that anyone who uses the nazi analogy, automatically loses the argument.

Anda; tar and feathers please

Maximus Zeebra said:

Take a look at your own politics and understand it, when you do, you will understand that its not absurd, but maybe the biggest threat to the US and the world.

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Actually the biggest threat to the world is people who think minor differences in political philosophy are HUGE fascist/socialist/communist/nazi/maoist/terrorist plots.

Just because someone favors creating a new government program or law for one aspect of society doesn't mean they favor dictatorship. Conservatives favor smaller government generally speaking, but this doesn't mean they favor abolition of our government. Do you see what I mean? You're taking small differences in opinion and extrapolating them into some sort of desire to fundamentally change our culture. It's absurd.

Djoop said:

Wait a minute, are you saying that you're not willing to explain but if you would, I would be convinced? Are you serious?

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I am willing to explain... Its just that it would be a very long post...

Djoop said:

I'm signatory to a treaty with Andalablue that states that anyone who uses the nazi analogy, automatically loses the argument.

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Perhaps I should create my own club then with anyone who mention the US as "sane" has lost the debate :roll::lol:

Maximus Zeebra said:

I am willing to explain... Its just that it would be a very long post...

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Thanks for your consideration.

Perhaps I should create my own club then with anyone who mention the US as "sane" has lost the debate :roll::lol:

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Who knows Max, maybe you'll get a discount for Disneyland! :2razz:

Deuce said:

Actually the biggest threat to the world is people who think minor differences in political philosophy are HUGE fascist/socialist/communist/nazi/maoist/terrorist plots.

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Perhaps I was mistaken, you also are. The actual biggest threat to the world is politics... To state it simple.

Deuce said:

Just because someone favors creating a new government program or law for one aspect of society doesn't mean they favor dictatorship.

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In a world who truly understand the meaning of democracy, its undoubtfully clear that we have never yet experienced such.

Deuce said:

Conservatives favor smaller government generally speaking, but this doesn't mean they favor abolition of our government. Do you see what I mean?

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I know what you mean. I support socialism, that is clear, but I also support minimalist government. For example I support having no "leader", no single person to look to, no single individuals with great power.

Deuce said:

You're taking small differences in opinion and extrapolating them into some sort of desire to fundamentally change our culture. It's absurd.

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We should fundamentally change our culture. Our cultures in Europe and the US are both quite similarily ridiculous. We must change to progress. Right now we are stagnating in deep rotten and endless corruption and intellectual incorrectness and flawedness, as a society. This must change.

Maximus Zeebra said:

I know what you mean. I support socialism, that is clear, but I also support minimalist government. For example I support having no "leader", no single person to look to, no single individuals with great power.

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Except if your name is Putin of course.

Agent Ferris said:

Except if your name is Putin of course.

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Very cheap argumentation you come with. Just because I like Putin more than Bush, doesnt mean I like him. He is intelligent and sharp. If you have problems admitting that, its because you are completely unable to see anything else than a single side of things, and that side being some political ideology, most likely the republican agenda in such a case.

Maximus Zeebra said:

Very cheap argumentation you come with. Just because I like Putin more than Bush, doesnt mean I like him. He is intelligent and sharp. If you have problems admitting that, its because you are completely unable to see anything else than a single side of things, and that side being some political ideology, most likely the republican agenda in such a case.

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You think someone that wields a people suppressing machinery, a mafia if you will... is... smart?

You hate Bush in your typical Euro/Leftist fashion for what exactly?
Iraq? Protecting America?

And Putin?
Georgia?
Chechnya?
His gassing theatres?
A land rife with corruption?
Have you ever been to or dealt with Russians?

T W I S T E D.

What is it chap?
That draws you to such a tyrant?
Are you the submissive type?
Like a strong hand? Or two?

Am I still on "Block"?... LOL

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Maximus Zeebra said:

Only one Islamic attack! Wow, thats not what the American fascists would want you to believe is it? :doh

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I would think that you would be more pleased with the international anti-terrorism network of which America is a large part of and the many arrests inside Europe that have uncovered terrorist plots instead of looking for a way to yet again bash Americans. But lets consider how far Europe has come and what America's role has been to get it there.......

The significance of the United States’ aggressive engagement with its Western allies in their own countries to both counter global terrorism and defend U.S. borders and citizens cannot be overstated. Europe has become a critical battlefield in the Global War on Terror; the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon in 2001 were hatched in Hamburg, Germany; the 2004 terrorist bombings of trains in Madrid altered the course of a European election ultimately leading to the withdrawal of Spanish troops from Iraq; and perhaps most significantly, Islamic extremists have stated their intent to conquer Europe.http://www.unc.edu/depts/diplomat/item/2007/1012/bake/bakeretal_islameurope.html

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But let's look at this even deeper and uncover something European governments shy away from......

In 2009, a Europol report also showed that more than 99% of terrorist attacks in Europe over the last three years were, in fact, carried out by non-Muslims. In terms of arrests, out of a total of 1,009 arrested terror suspects in 2008, 187 of them were arrested in relation to Islamist terrorism. The report also showed that the majority of Islamist terror suspects were not first generation immigrants, but were rather children of immigrants who no longer identified with the culture of their parents and at the same time felt excluded from Western society, "which still perceives them as foreigners," thus they became "more attracted to the idea of becoming ‘citizens’ of the virtual worldwide Islamic community, removed from territory and national culture."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism

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Given that Europe arrested over 1,000 terror suspects, most of which were not even Islamic in nature, you may want to tone down your sense of achievement. It would appear that your social problems go far beyond the Islamic occasional temper tantrums within. Aside from the recent threats towards Belgium, threats towards the Dutch, threats towards the Swiss, and German raids on plotters, there are far more events unheard of thanks to your region's stepping up of anti-terror focus (from America's pressure). But just the sheer number of arrests for one reason or another is alarming. My guess is that it continues to go back to your immigration policies and how you treat "non-Europeans." De Gaulle is smiling in his grave as immigration continues and so do the lack of policies to assimilate them.

zimmer said:

You think someone that wields a people suppressing machinery, a mafia if you will... is... smart?

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Silvio Berlusconi is one smart bastard. I despise him, but he is smart.

zimmer said:

You hate Bush in your typical Euro/Leftist fashion for what exactly?
Iraq? Protecting America?

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Protecting America? Bush single handedly ruined America. He has stripped America of everything Europe ever loved it for, and turned it into a closed society.
Russia under Putin has moved the other way and is moving towards an open society. Russia is far from being an open society like Europe. But with the American decline as an open society and Russias positive development towards such, its almost reached parity and will very soon if America do not reverse things.

zimmer said:

And Putin?

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Cunning prick. Admireable cunning, and far more raw than western leaders, quite honest about his cunning in fact. I like that actually. Better than pretending and lying.

zimmer said:

Georgia?

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Political and geo-political masterpiece.
-It showed the finger to US style politics
-It showed the consequences of Iraq(everyone being able to act as they want)
-It was a "duplicate" of the Iraq situation in another sense
-It took care of a problem that Russia wanted to take care of
-It told the world, that if there is no UN and no obediance to it, the consequences will be severe
-It showed the world, the US can do nothing about Russia
-It showed the world that Russia is acting well without being threatened to do so
-It boosted Russias image among intelligent cycles and gave the US a similar PR gutshot in the same cycles.

zimmer said:

Chechnya?

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How about it? Actually I am shamefully uninformed when it comes to that area. Sorry, didnt take the time to check that wholew situation.

zimmer said:

His gassing theatres?

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What?

zimmer said:

A land rife with corruption?

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All in all if you understand the totality of corruption its far worse in the west. In Europe and the US, corruption is so deep and information about it so misdirected that it has become normal in our lives. Our perception of what is right and wrong, and the correct ways, are so backwards that we do not understand reality as it should be, only reality as corruption dictates it.

zimmer said:

Have you ever been to or dealt with Russians?

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Never been top Russia, I plan on going. I love Russians however, met many of them. Absolutely brilliant people, sharp and intelligent, more so than any other people I have met. Single ones, and in general.

zimmer said:

Am I still on "Block"?... LOL

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Yes, but I selected to answer this post, because it wasnt deep typed in some republican ideology, and it was kind of interesting(my answer that is).:mrgreen: