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Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

NoJingoLingo said:
Unless it's a danger to society. Which obesity is.
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Fat people are a danger to society?

Only if you don't trust your elevator maintenance.

They get fat, they die, their problem, not yours.
 
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NoJingoLingo said:
I don't think it's the "nanny state" that is the problem but rather the millions of Americans who are unable to make the right choices for a myriad of reasons.
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That "problem" is called "freedom".

Freedom isn't a problem, it's the cure.

NoJingoLingo said:
The top few are, no time to cook because both parents are working so much,
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Because they have to pay taxes.

NoJingoLingo said:
the food is tastey, it's easy to get, MARKETING WORKS.
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McDonald's is "tasty"?

Tell me what country you live in, I want to make sure I never go there.

NoJingoLingo said:
So, I'd like all you cons to tell us how lazy these millions of Americans are, and don't forget to throw in that, if you can do the wise thing, anyone can, because we're all exactly a like...
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Sure they're lazy.

If the government hadn't overstepped it's bounds and made their health my problem, this wouldn't be an issue.

They all can eat Mickey D's every meal of their short, fat lives, then die, and I won't care.
 
It's up to the parents and not politicians pure and simple. We can't danger-proof the world for them. Besides, as Ikari said, if it's all about costs, it costs a lot of money to support once-healthy seniors as well.
 
the kids are not driving themselves to buy a happy meal
this is yet another example of poor parenting and its adverse affects on our society
the schools aren't helping much, either ... take a peek at the local school system's lunch menu for elementary school:
http://www.cms.k12.nc.us/cmsdepartm... April 2010 (including allergy and carbs).pdf
the junk food culture has become ingrained within the public schools

the kids' parents are often also going to be fat
should we really think they are the ones who will be able to properly guide their children's nutritional instruction as well as put healthy foods on the table for them to eat
the right answer entitles your child to a candy cigarette

PE is being cut in many schools since physical fitness is not a test item under NCLB
it was under JFK, however. anyone else recall the competition to pass the president's physical fitness test? The Federal Government Takes on Physical Fitness - John F. Kennedy Presidential Library & Museum
JFKphysicalfitnessad.jpg


hell, i bet that 1/3 not passing figure would be an exceptionally positive result today. i seriously doubt anything close to 2/3 of our students would pass a physical fitness test (using the 60's objectives, not what would be watered down today to generate passing scores)

why are we not insisting that only healthy, nutritional foods be served at schools, that kids receive active PE daily, and that nutrition be a component of the curriculum
 
chevydriver1123 said:
Someone being fat doesnt infringe on my rights, therefore isnt a danger to society. Its a danger to the person in question
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So obesity isn't a problem that causes an increase in health care costs? How about the fat guy sitting next to you on the plane? How about so many people, too fat to walk, causing an increase in handi-cap parking spots making you have to walk farther to the door at WalMart! :rofl OK the last one was humor with a little truth in there. :lol:

No Im not, I dont justify warrantless wiretaps, the drug war, police killing innocent people, bombing third world countries in the name of "security". I believe organized religion is an authoritarian structure. I think Israel and the rest of the countries we have bases in should stand on their own two feet not on the feet of our soldiers. Im far from being a conservative.
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OK, I seem to remember you taking the con position on issues but I could be wrong so I'll take back my accusation. :3oops:
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
That "problem" is called "freedom". Freedom isn't a problem, it's the cure.
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Kind of a silly statement to make when you consider that we have the freedom now and we are not doing the right thing so there is talk about legislation. If Freedom were the cure to THIS problem then there wouldn't be THIS problem. :doh

Because they have to pay taxes.
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No, because they have to have the "American Dream" which has turned into - acquiring as much material stuff as possible. People don't get a second job to pay taxes, they get it to pay for a new flat screen.

McDonald's is "tasty"?
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If not then the "free market" doesn't work, which is it, "Mr. I'll be inconsistent if it's convenient"?

Sure they're lazy.
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So 1/3rd or approx. 64 million adults in America are just lazy people? 17% of children are also obese and therefore lazy. That's a lot of lazy people, I wonder how they support their lazy asses? Those must be the people on welfare... :doh

If the government hadn't overstepped it's bounds and made their health my problem, this wouldn't be an issue.
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Right, because you don't believe that in a SOCIETY your actions effect anyone else. :roll:

They all can eat Mickey D's every meal of their short, fat lives, then die, and I won't care.
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Nice, glad to have you as a fellow citizen. :( NOT
 
Nobody is calling for a law that prohibits obesity. Only a few have said it would be optimal to ban junk food (instead of prohibiting toys to be sold in package). Yet the same people who are claiming: Let people decide for themselves!
Are the same people who are all bummed out about higher taxes, and health care reform. You wanna know a little secret?

Every 7 years, obesity will exhibit an explicit cost of about $1 trillion, and that figure will continue to rise.

he researchers also found that 8.5 percent of Medicare expenditures, 11.8 percent of Medicaid expenditures, and 12.9 percent of private payer expenditures are attributable to obesity.
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To gauge the problem, a team of doctors and cardiologists from Houston's Memorial Hermann Hospital set up a MASH unit of sorts in a middle school gym, where they run a battery of tests on 97 seemingly healthy children.

But the results reveal an alarming reality here: three out of every four children are either overweight or obese.
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Two-thirds, more than 190 million Americans are overweight or obese.
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:shock:

Battling Obesity in America - CBS Evening News - CBS News

This is nothing short of embarrassing....
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Fat people are a danger to society?

Only if you don't trust your elevator maintenance.

They get fat, they die, their problem, not yours.
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All 190,000,000 of them? Way to ignore the reality of the situation.
 
obvious Child said:
I dunno. I feel like if they are willing to do this, just ban the junk food and save some time. Banning toys seems kind of retarded.
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Well there could be a positive side to this considering all those toys are made in China. :mrgreen:
 
I wish my county did that. I get tired of my kids whining because they want some cheap toy at McDonald's. Its annoying.
 
Goldenboy219 said:
All 190,000,000 of them? Way to ignore the reality of the situation.
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So what's the solution? Tell us what your ideas are to solve this problem. You've been pretty critical of other's comments, so let's see what you have in mind.
 
megaprogman said:
I wish my county did that. I get tired of my kids whining because they want some cheap toy at McDonald's. Its annoying.
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That won't be happening in the Deep South... :2razz:
 
megaprogman said:
I wish my county did that. I get tired of my kids whining because they want some cheap toy at McDonald's. Its annoying.
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you don't need the county to do your parenting for you. the solution is easy
let the kids know that the next time you hear them whine for a happy meal that they will be served [whatever they don't like to eat] the next meal
then do it
every time
in short order, 'happy meal' is an expression which will never emerge from their mouths ... they will make sure of it
 
justabubba said:
you don't need the county to do your parenting for you. the solution is easy
let the kids know that the next time you hear them whine for a happy meal that they will be served [whatever they don't like to eat] the next meal
then do it
every time
in short order, 'happy meal' is an expression which will never emerge from their mouths ... they will make sure of it
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I can't do that, my kid has a medical issue and its a miracle when I can get him to eat at all. But I get your point and I don't care about it.
 
megaprogman said:
I can't do that, my kid has a medical issue and its a miracle when I can get him to eat at all. But I get your point and I don't care about it.
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There is always an excuse for why you cannot parent well.
 
MrVicchio said:
There is always an excuse for why you cannot parent well.
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Hey, lay off the guy. I'm sure he and his wife are great parents. Everyone's kids whine for things at times.
 
Moon said:
So what's the solution? Tell us what your ideas are to solve this problem. You've been pretty critical of other's comments, so let's see what you have in mind.
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IDK, maybe a crack pot idea of taxing these fast food behemeths to pay for the external costs associated to consuming their products. You know..... The cost we all will pay in increased taxes and decreased productivity.

With the procedes from said tax, you implement awareness programs and subsidize fruits, vegtables, etc.... You know; slow flood!

Welcome to Slow Food Detroit
 
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MrVicchio said:
There is always an excuse for why you cannot parent well.
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It is often better to not respond to hateful comments and perpetuate the problem, so you can have this point.
 
Goldenboy219 said:
IDK, maybe a crack pot idea of taxing these fast food behemeths to pay for the external costs associated to consuming their products. You know..... They cost we all will pay in increased taxes and decreased productivity.

With the procedes from said tax, you implement awareness programs and subsidize fruits, vegtables, etc.... You know; slow flood!

Welcome to Slow Food Detroit
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Not subsidizing corn would greatly help this problem and it would reduce government spending.
 
megaprogman said:
Not subsidizing corn would greatly help this problem and it would reduce government spending.
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Subsidize it at the consumer market place, not for producers. I guess i should have been a bit more clear.
 
This just doesn't seem to me like it will make a whole lot of difference. Most parents don't go to a place like McDonald's just to get a toy in a Happy Meal for their kids. They go for their own convenience. So taking away the toy in the Happy Meal doesn't seem to me like it would really make a big difference in what the kid would be eating. I doubt a lot of kids are going to decide (if they even get a choice) to have the salad instead of the Happy Meal when their parents take them to McDs or another fast food place just because the Happy Meal no longer has a toy in it. The Happy Meal is a smaller portion than the normal meals and it is generally cheaper, so parents are most likely going to still get it for their child. Now, those parents who indulge their kids might change their kids' eating habits with this, but most likely, what will happen is those types of parents will still take their kids out to eat where ever they did before, but also stop to pick up a toy for the kid while they're out.
 
Goldenboy219 said:
IDK, maybe a crack pot idea of taxing these fast food behemeths to pay for the external costs associated to consuming their products. You know..... The cost we all will pay in increased taxes and decreased productivity.

With the procedes from said tax, you implement awareness programs and subsidize fruits, vegtables, etc.... You know; slow flood!

Welcome to Slow Food Detroit
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ZOMG you didn't just have the thought of taxing a business, did you? That's a hangin offense!!

We cannot hold corporations responsible for the damages they create because they will all go home and sit on their pile of cash while the economy tanks, then We the People will come crawling back to them with offerings of tax breaks, deregulation and a promise to look the other way next time.

You need to repent, so head to your local Chamber of Commerce and admit your sin. [/sarcasm]
 
roguenuke said:
This just doesn't seem to me like it will make a whole lot of difference. Most parents don't go to a place like McDonald's just to get a toy in a Happy Meal for their kids. They go for their own convenience. So taking away the toy in the Happy Meal doesn't seem to me like it would really make a big difference in what the kid would be eating. I doubt a lot of kids are going to decide (if they even get a choice) to have the salad instead of the Happy Meal when their parents take them to McDs or another fast food place just because the Happy Meal no longer has a toy in it. The Happy Meal is a smaller portion than the normal meals and it is generally cheaper, so parents are most likely going to still get it for their child. Now, those parents who indulge their kids might change their kids' eating habits with this, but most likely, what will happen is those types of parents will still take their kids out to eat where ever they did before, but also stop to pick up a toy for the kid while they're out.
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Advertising works. Kids see the advertising and badger their parents and in case you don't have children, they can really get on your last nerve. :lol: When you're tired and cranky, sometimes you give in. Some will call it bad parenting, maybe it is, maybe there is a reason for that beyond simply being a "bad parent". Maybe we don't teach people how to be good parents and instead we simply allow any 2 people with genitalia to reproduce without any instruction on child rearing. Like how to cope with these situations without abuse or relinquishing authority.
 
It's all fun and games until I have to pay for their healthcare. Once I have to pay, I have a say.

Making it illegal to be morons is fine with me, if I have to directly pay as a result of you being a moron. Don't make me pay for your irresonsible behavior if you want me to get out of your business.

Everyone knows they ban the toy as both a first step, and because doing more likely wouldn't go anywhere.
 
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MyOwnDrum said:
Hey, lay off the guy. I'm sure he and his wife are great parents. Everyone's kids whine for things at times.
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I'm just dubious as to a medical condition that has McDonald's as a solution. (to get them to eat). A friend of mine, her son was autistic and she for the longest time claimed he'd only eat Mc'Ds. Finally her son starting get really fat and she found a different more healthy solution.
 
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