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Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

At the moment the politics of this leak are not important. Stoping the leaks and doing everything possible to lesson the impact to the ecosystems of the gulf coast should be the top priority.
 
Obama now has his own Katrina. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Politics or solution?
 
Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
What I'm trying to point out to the self-righteous douchebags who think all offshore drilling should be shut down permanently is that they're cutting off their noses to spite their own faces. It is short-sighted and idiotic, even more so than assuming that fossil fuels won't run out.
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ADK_Forever said:
Got any evidence that ANYBODY has said that, or been calling for, "all offshore drilling be shut down"?

Maybe the real douche bags are those who claim anyone really is calling for this. Hmmm...
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Have any luck finding those links pal?

I sure hope I didn't miss them.
 
Chappy said:
I think you're trying to make an accusation by using the word ‘exploited’ but it's not very meaningful in this context, at least so far.

“In a sprawling, contentious democracy, competing interests suspend their antagonisms only when they have to confront an alarming common threat.” — JACK ROSENTHAL, explanation of the phrase, “ You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.”†​

The spill is a crisis, Americans will look to their political leaders to work together and address their concerns about these events. Politicians of all stripes will be under pressure to deliver. You say “this story is being exploited for political purposes” but its the American people who are the driving force.

I think the real discussion will wrap around the substance of those political purposes. Will Obama's offshore oil drilling expansion plans be curtailed or abandoned? Will the regulations be sufficiently toughened? Etc. If you don't think there should be any political repercussions then I think you are seriously misreading the American people.
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They never make an issue out of any crisis unless they have legislation to pass, which is why you haven't heard about any of the other oil rig blow outs. You might, maybe, have an argument if this spill were devastating, but it's not. There will be token harm to a few local economies who will then be reimbursed by Transocean Ltd, and fewer fish will die from the spill then would have died from a regular commercial fishing season, and life goes on.

If anything, the local fishing communities have a great season to look forward to next year.
 
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The fact that this is an extremely deep well is the main problem. This type of drilling is fairly new and has not been going on for thirty years.
 
ADK_Forever said:
Have any luck finding those links pal?

I sure hope I didn't miss them.
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Here you go, spanky:
ADK_Forever said:
If that oil gets to the Louisiana coast and causes ANY kind of damages to the fishing industry, soon we'll see even southern Repubs campaigning against offshore drilling.

This accident is basically the nail in the coffin of the future of any offshore drilling in our near future. That rig is now spilling over 200,000 gallons of crude a day! They have not been very successful at burning much of this stuff off.

RIP Offshore Drilling. A really bad idea to begin with. It does nothing for us.
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Now go troll someone else. You vex me.
 
LiberalAvenger said:
The fact that this is an extremely deep well is the main problem. This type of drilling is fairly new and has not been going on for thirty years.
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And what's a leading solution?

Make another one right next to it :rofl
 
SgtRock said:
At the moment the politics of this leak are not important. Stoping the leaks and doing everything possible to lesson the impact to the ecosystems of the gulf coast should be the top priority.
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If this were "DebateRealSolutions.com" I would agree.

No, actually, you're right, we should all turn our computers off and fly out to the site and offer our qualified technical expertise right.........wait for it........NOW!
 
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Middleground said:
Sorry, LaMid... this post is downright asinine and completely off the mark.
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I'm asking the biggest loudmouths to put up or shut up. I'm dead serious and sick of these pious eco-nuts running their mouths. Take it for what it's worth.
 
Jerry said:
If this were "DebateRealSolutions.com" I would agree.

No, actually, you're right, we should all turn our computers off and fly out to the site and offer our qualified technical expertise right.........wait for it........NOW!
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Shutting down computer.:comp::bolt
 
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Jerry said:
If this were "DebateRealSolutions.com" I would agree.

No, actually, you're right, we should all turn our computers off and fly out to the site and offer our qualified technical expertise right.........wait for it........NOW!
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You really don't give a damn about the enviorment do you. Its people like you that give conservatives a bad name. What a ****ing jerk!
 
Jerry said:
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Really respectful, Jerry. I'm sure the families of the dead workers would really appreciate your attitude, not to mention the people of Texas and Louisiana, many already suffering under the recession, now facing the enormous economic impact that this calamity burdens them with.

Real classy.
 
bicycleman said:
The news media will give him a pass and Bush will be blamed for the oil spill.
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Wellllll... he did relax regulations on the off shore drilling industry so that the off shore rigs didn't have to have those pesky "safety cuts offs”, that the rest of the world uses, installed on U.S. rigs. They cost an extra $500,000.

None of the rigs in the Gulf of Mexico have these safety devices. No wonder Cheeney didn’t want to reveal what he and his Haliburton pals discussed.

So, give yourself a pat on the back for having the keen insight to know that somehow Bush and Cheeney's criminal hands would be involved in this catastrophe.

But, as long as it saved their rich oil tycoon pals a mere $500,000 it's ok. Lock those two ****ers up already! :mrgreen:
 
ADK_Forever said:
Wellllll... he did relax regulations on the off shore drilling industry so that the off shore rigs didn't have to have those pesky "safety cuts offs”, that the rest of the world uses, installed on U.S. rigs. They cost an extra $500,000.

None of the rigs in the Gulf of Mexico have these safety devices. No wonder Cheeney didn’t want to reveal what he and his Haliburton pals discussed.

So, give yourself a pat on the back for having the keen insight to know that somehow Bush and Cheeney's criminal hands would be involved in this catastrophe.

But, as long as it saved their rich oil tycoon pals a mere $500,000 it's ok. Lock those two ****ers up already! :mrgreen:
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Please, you can not be serious.
 
Really respectful Jerry, I am sure the families of the dead oil rigs workers appreciate what you did with that picture of yours. People like you are why I have little faith in Humanity, and you should be ashamed of yourself for trying to down play this disaster.




As a Texan, I find myself sad that I will not be able to fish out near the gulf anytime soon. This thing I am sad about is that people don't understand what kind of effect it has on the environments here in The Gulf Coast of Mexico. With this being a slat water area their are countless Slat marshes that will be effected by this oil spill. The marshes over here are already at a fast rate with no marshes we will be having higher levels of hurricanes, because their are no land to lessen the wind levels in between us, and the oceans. Then fisher men that are making a living will be effected as well, because their will be less fish, and shrimp, or lobsters, and crabs for you to get this will cause a chain effect in the ecosystem.
 
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Coronado said:
Here you go, spanky:Now go troll someone else. You vex me.
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So sonny, you admit we shouldn't pay any attention to any more of your ubiquitous right wing claims. We can now see your method of choice is to, not make honest assertions supported by proper evidence but, to twist what people say into what you want to hear. And then to run away hoping no one asks you for evidence of your claim.

So much for all that expertise you bragged on. I guess I missed it after all. ;)
 
ADK_Forever said:
So sonny, you admit we shouldn't pay any attention to any more of your ubiquitous right wing claims. We can now see your method of choice is to, not make honest assertions supported by proper evidence but, to twist what people say into what you want to hear. And then to run away hoping no one asks you for evidence of your claim.

So much for all that expertise you bragged on. I guess I missed it after all. ;)
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I gave you exactly what you asked for. Why are you still whining?
 
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