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FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

There was no attempt to bully you and my argument was totally valid as evidenced by the fact that you made zero attempt to rebutt the argument.
Telling me to go elsewhere if I don't agree with you is bullying. I don't expect a conservative to understand because it seems to be their nature.

It absolutely limits the rights of the business owner to implement his business model. The encroachment by the government in this begins before the food ever hits the table.
That certainly has to be the most lame ****ing argument I've seen from you. You really should be ashamed at that one. Let's let the business owner add Melamine to their foods too if they want because we certainly wouldn't want to do anything to diminish corporate profits... :doh

Hardly. If you are going to be on a public road, following public safety laws is not an infringement of your liberty. Nice try though.
It certainly is an infringement but I understand if you need to simply oppose me.
 
Telling me to go elsewhere if I don't agree with you is bullying. I don't expect a conservative to understand because it seems to be their nature.

OK, so you don't understand the difference between the personal and the editorial "you".

I don't expect a liberal to take the time to understand plain English when they can just throw the victim card instead because it seems to be their nature.

We're done here.
 
Yeah, that's pretty much the same conclusion I came to as well.

Well you can see how certain ones are already getting hysterical over simply being opposed on the matter. God forbid someone not want some liberal loon making their dramatics into laws. Then you're just "bullying".:lol:
 
Well you can see how certain ones are already getting hysterical over simply being opposed on the matter. God forbid someone not want some liberal loon making their dramatics into laws. Then you're just "bullying".:lol:

I'm just amazed at the number of people who want the government to do their thinking for them.
 
There will be cost of reformulation and testing of the recipes, cost of new packaging, cost of disposal of old product if it can no longer be sold, cost of writing and publishing the new rules, and cost of enforcement by the nanny state just off the top of my head. So yes, there will be additional cost involved, and guess who gets to pay for this nonsense that will provide zero benefit?

Dumb people that buy processed food? I look at it like I do abortion. I can actually see both sides of the debate, but it doesn't concern me either way. I'd never get an abortion, legal or not, and the sodium content isn't going to impact how much processed food I eat.

On the one hand, I generally don't like the government telling businesses how to run their show (except in some cases). However, the businesses seem to be completely on board with this, so it can't be that big a deal to them.

On the other, people are really dumb. If it was just a couple people that were really dumb, I wouldn't have much of a problem with it. But the majority of Americans are overweight and that worries me.
 
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I'm just amazed at the number of people who want the government to do their thinking for them.

I'd rather have the choice to add salt or not not some corporation.
 
You have that choice now. Buy something else if you don't like what they put in it.

Ew, but that low-sodium crap tastes so gross!

Wait a sec....
 
You have that choice now. Buy something else if you don't like what they put in it.

What is the matter with expanding choices for the individual? Nothing is the matter with that.

I do not think you realize how much sodium is in our food chain:

“The American Heart Association recommends that most people strive to lower the amount of sodium consumed daily to less than 1,500 mg, to prevent or manage high blood pressure, a major but modifiable risk factor for heart attack and stroke,” Van Horn said. “The new CDC data adds to a growing body of scientific evidence that supports this recommendation – there are now a substantial number of scientific studies that show a direct relationship between salt intake and a rise in blood pressure. An upper limit of no more than 1,500 mg could significantly reduce the rate of high blood pressure in the United States.”

The U.S. food supply contains excessive amounts of sodium (salt), which makes limiting sodium (salt) consumption to less than 1,500 mg difficult. According to the CDC report, Americans over the age of 2 consumed a daily average of 3,436 mg between 2005-2006, up from a daily average of 3,329 mg from 2001-2002.

American Heart Association supports lower sodium limits for most Americans
 
What is the matter with expanding choices for the individual? Nothing is the matter with that.

I'm all for more choices for consumers, the only problem is that the government is not going to expand your choices.
 
I'm all for more choices for consumers, the only problem is that the government is not going to expand your choices.

I certainly don't see the food business doing it.
 
I certainly don't see the food business doing it.

What? You go down the cereal aisle and you have 50 choices of cereals to buy. Try picking out a can of soup from the hundred varieties on the shelf. It's exhausting. Forty different brands of bread in the store each with three or four different varieties.

You have choices. It's up to you to make the ones that are good for you.
 
What? You go down the cereal aisle and you have 50 choices of cereals to buy. Try picking out a can of soup from the hundred varieties on the shelf. It's exhausting. Forty different brands of bread in the store each with three or four different varieties.

You have choices. It's up to you to make the ones that are good for you.

And they are all mostly overloaded with sodium.
 
And they are all mostly overloaded with sodium.

But not all of them. Try picking one that isn't once in a while.

Or here's a ca-ca-ca-crazy idea: buy a vegetable from the produce stand and cook it yourself. Sodium problem solved. :shrug:
 
Maybe if fat ****ing Americans weren't so ****ing fat....

Are we to expect "Sarah Gravy Legs" and "Joe Six Pack" to set the tone for a somewhat healthy eating routine for their little ones?

Hey America: Don't blame Washington. Blame yourselves. Then maybe.... just maybe Washington wouldn't have another form of ammo in which to enact legislation aimed to "help".

The eating habit's for a rather large portion (the majority IMHO) of this entire nation is nothing short of embarrassing. Congratulations! :thumbs:
 
But not all of them. Try picking one that isn't once in a while.

Or here's a ca-ca-ca-crazy idea: buy a vegetable from the produce stand and cook it yourself. Sodium problem solved. :shrug:

Hey you tried to pick on that you thought was low in sodium yesterday, remember the bread where per slice there was 170 mgs of sodium.

I'm sitting here looking at Oroweat (owned by Bimbo Bakeries) double fiber no high fructose corn syrup english muffins. Sounds pretty healthy huh?

Well the sodium content per serving is 320mgs. That certainly is not advertised.
 
Maybe if fat ****ing Americans weren't so ****ing fat....

Are we to expect "Sarah Gravy Legs" and "Joe Six Pack" to set the tone for a somewhat healthy eating routine for their little ones?

I'm 5' 10" 160 lbs with heart disease. My life expectancy is just outside of 5 years. It is not just fat people that are affected.
 
I'm 5' 10" 160 lbs with heart disease. My life expectancy is just outside of 5 years. It is not just fat people that are affected.

I agree totally. My point stems from the belief that disability is going to be heavily involved in Americas obesity issue. So much in fact, American tax payers are going to foot the bill for the poor eating habits (and high sales revenue of the suppliers) of its citizens.
 
Can you trust the quality of what is added to foods for the sake of profit/money for companies or people in the food business?

Here's an example. I remember we used to use a chemical called "shrimp dip", After catching the shrimp we would dip them into this solution in order to preserve them from spoiling on long trips.

There was a law against using it at the time but that did not stop a lot of fishermen from using it. It always had the awful smell of ammonia to it. If you knew it was there you could really tell by tasting the shrimp. Unfortunately very few people know what a fresh shrimp tastes like.

Living in times of terrorism I like the gov keeping a close eye on our food supply for security's sake.
 
I agree totally. My point stems from the belief that disability is going to be heavily involved in Americas obesity issue. So much in fact, American tax payers are going to foot the bill for the poor eating habits (and high sales revenue of the suppliers) of its citizens.

Cool I agree.
 
Can you trust the quality of what is added to foods for the sake of profit/money for companies or people in the food business?

Here's an example. I remember we used to use a chemical called "shrimp dip", After catching the shrimp we would dip them into this solution in order to preserve them from spoiling on long trips.

There was a law against using it at the time but that did not stop a lot of fishermen from using it. It always had the awful smell of ammonia to it. If you knew it was there you could really tell by tasting the shrimp. Unfortunately very few people know what a fresh shrimp tastes like.

Living in times of terrorism I like the gov keeping a close eye on our food supply for security's sake.

Sooo... limiting the amount of salt a private company can put in products sold to private citizens who are fully aware of the sodium content of said products and who can freely choose to buy said products or not is... a national security issue? :confused:
 
Sooo... limiting the amount of salt a private company can put in products sold to private citizens who are fully aware of the sodium content of said products and who can freely choose to buy said products or not is... a national security issue? :confused:

YAY!

The 370lb woman on disability has a choice! :2dancing: Praise Jebus
 
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