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FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

Moon said:
Why is it "prickly" to think people should be responsible for the choices they make?

Salt is a nutrient required to survive. Is ammonia?
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Cause I was making a joke about how hard it is to take salt out and immediately follows the prickly responses. Don't worry, I won't hold it against you this time.

I don't think any American is in danger even if the government cuts down on the amount allowed in processed food.
 
Kelzie said:
Cause I was making a joke about how hard it is to take salt out and immediately follows the prickly responses. Don't worry, I won't hold it against you this time.

I don't think any American is in danger even if the government cuts down on the amount allowed in processed food.
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It wasn't prickly at all. I just get tired of people wanting to use federal law to replace common sense and personal responsibility.

I don't think any American is in danger if they just read the label on the package. A federal requirement I agree with, BTW.
 
Kelzie said:
Cause I was making a joke about how hard it is to take salt out and immediately follows the prickly responses. Don't worry, I won't hold it against you this time.

I don't think any American is in danger even if the government cuts down on the amount allowed in processed food.
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I don't either but do you really think it's ok for the government to tell a food processing company they have to change their formula when their formula isn't what's causing the health risk.

It's not the manufacturer's fault that the consumer consumes too much of his product. I think it's only acceptable for the government to step in if a reasonable amount of consumption in a set period of time causes acute harm or death. The government isn't responsible for making consumer decisions for them.
 
Moon said:
Ummmmm...huh?
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Clearly you've never seen friends.

If you get stung by a jellyfish, one way to sort it out is to pee on your wound, because the Ammonia will disenfect it. (I think this was proven to be false btw)

So I hang my head in shame for my pitiful joke :mrgreen:

THE MORE YOU KNOW :2wave:
 
Kelzie said:
I don't think any American is in danger even if the government cuts down on the amount allowed in processed food.
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There is a nutritional label on almost all food (or it is available on request) and on there is the amount of sodium, daily amount % of sodium, and serving size.

If people are exceeding their serving size or exceeding their daily % of sodium intake, that is the fault of the person.

Let me ask you, when do you place the blame on the individual?
 
soccerboy22 said:
I maybe in the minority, but I am not too against the idea of setting limits to salt in food. A lot of our food has salt in it that can lead to health problems.
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Being on a sodium restricted diet it is very hard for me to keep within my sodium limit.
 
*slaps head* Coulda had a V8.

Oh wait yeah thats right even its small bottle has 780mg of sodium :(
 
jallman said:
MSgt also eats a bag of oreos and a can of mushrooms for dinner when left unsupervised.
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He also only drinks organic milk once I told him how much pus was allowed in regular. :mrgreen:
 
TheNextEra said:
There is a nutritional label on almost all food (or it is available on request) and on there is the amount of sodium, daily amount % of sodium, and serving size.

If people are exceeding their serving size or exceeding their daily % of sodium intake, that is the fault of the person.

Let me ask you, when do you place the blame on the individual?
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Once I have to pay for their health care!
 
Kelzie said:
He also only drinks organic milk once I told him how much pus was allowed in regular. :mrgreen:
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I am not even going to ask about that one.

I only drink whole milk that is from local dairies.
 
Kelzie said:
Once I have to pay for their health care!
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So then place it on the individual, not the food company. Because right now the food companies are complying with everything. It is people that cannot realize that a whole pile of food on a plate is not meant to be eaten in one serving.
 
Moon said:
Why is it "prickly" to think people should be responsible for the choices they make?

Salt is a nutrient required to survive. Is ammonia?
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Because some of your irresponsible choices do in fact affect others.

Beyond high blood pressure, hypertension, hardening of arteries, hardening of stool, water retention and gastric ulcers, recent research suggests that too much sodium can be attributed to bone loss as well. And bone loss is escalating among men, not just in women. If you happen to be on medicare/medicade I'm paying for your medications.

I don't think restricting the sodium content of prepackaged foods due to health or environmental concerns qualifies as "nanny state". I think protecting it's citizens from unnecessary harm is job one for the government. Besides, they aren't saying you can add table salt to your food if you want.
 
NoJingoLingo said:
Because some of your irresponsible choices do in fact affect others.
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Well the only way you are going to get away from that is to live in the wilderness somewhere away from human contact. Your decision to live in a society does not give you a right to limit the liberties of others because you think that the natural responsibilities one has to society are just too damned much for you to bear.

Beyond high blood pressure, hypertension, hardening of arteries, hardening of stool, water retention and gastric ulcers, recent research suggests that too much sodium can be attributed to bone loss as well. And bone loss is escalating among men, not just in women. If you happen to be on medicare/medicade I'm paying for your medications.
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Then go somewhere that you don't have to pay for medicare. However, the small amount you contribute to the public fund for medicare does not give you a right to regulate the personal decisions of society at large.

I don't think restricting the sodium content of prepackaged foods due to health or environmental concerns qualifies as "nanny state". I think protecting it's citizens from unnecessary harm is job one for the government. Besides, they aren't saying you can add table salt to your food if you want.
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No, but you are restricting business practices based on the idea that the consumer should not have the choice in what to consume. If you can't handle the natural responsibilities to society that you incur by living in one, find somewhere away from people.
 
Moon said:
It wasn't prickly at all. I just get tired of people wanting to use federal law to replace common sense and personal responsibility.

I don't think any American is in danger if they just read the label on the package. A federal requirement I agree with, BTW.
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I agree it is more about personal responsibility, but with the case of how much salt is in our food it gets difficult. I have to stay very pro-active in knowing how much sodium I put into my body and I have to read the labels of everything. Plus just reading the individual labels doesn't take into account that if you were to add it with something else that is a lot more sodium.

I am not saying they shouldn't put any salt in anything, but rather just not putting as much salt into things. But I do agree with you that people should read what we put into our bodies because it is sickening sometimes.
 
NoJingoLingo said:
I don't think restricting the sodium content of prepackaged foods due to health or environmental concerns qualifies as "nanny state". I think protecting it's citizens from unnecessary harm is job one for the government. Besides, they aren't saying you can add table salt to your food if you want.
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Again, there are labels and serving sizes. People are exceeding the serving sizes. Why should the food companies be punished when it is the people screwing up?
 
soccerboy22 said:
I agree it is more about personal responsibility, but with the case of how much salt is in our food it gets difficult. I have to stay very pro-active in knowing how much sodium I put into my body and I have to read the labels of everything. Plus just reading the individual labels doesn't take into account that if you were to add it with something else that is a lot more sodium.

I am not saying they shouldn't put any salt in anything, but rather just not putting as much salt into things. But I do agree with you that people should read what we put into our bodies because it is sickening sometimes.
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Here's a pretty safe way to avoid putting things in your body that you don't want in there: Eat unprocessed whole foods and be mindful of how you season them.

Wow...how hard was that? Processed foods aren't meant to be your diet. They are meant for the occasional convenience of not preparing a meal but you should not be ingesting them every day or even every week.
 
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Moon said:
Why is it "prickly" to think people should be responsible for the choices they make?

Salt is a nutrient required to survive. Is ammonia?
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I'd love to make the choice to add some salt or what ever. But once the salt is there it can not be taken out.
 
winston53660 said:
I'd love to make the choice to add some salt or what ever. But once the salt is there it can not be taken out.
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So eat something else. I love chocolate cake but I am allergic to coconut. So if the only cake is German Chocolate, I just have to decide on something different. :shrug:
 
jallman said:
Here's a pretty safe way to avoid putting things in your body that you don't want in there: Eat unprocessed whole foods and be mindful of how you season them.

Wow...how hard was that? Processed foods aren't mean to be your diet. They are meant for the occasional convenience of not preparing a meal but you should not be ingesting them every day or even every week.
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I don't eat a lot of processed foods, I work out regularly, and I still have to be aware of my intake because it is in so much of our food. I mean it sounds easy to say to it isn't difficult to know how much sodium we eat, but it really isn't. Well at least for me it isn't.

But I understand where most of you are coming from and I agree it is a fine line with the government telling us what we can and cannot do. I just feel that if we could take 10% of the sodium out of our food and drinks and the taste does not change then why not do it?
 
Jetboogieman said:
Clearly you've never seen friends.

If you get stung by a jellyfish, one way to sort it out is to pee on your wound, because the Ammonia will disenfect it. (I think this was proven to be false btw)

So I hang my head in shame for my pitiful joke :mrgreen:

THE MORE YOU KNOW :2wave:
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Vinegar, you use vinegar ;)

jallman said:
That's what I said. :2wave:
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So I see. LOL But I hadn't gotten that far yet, or else I would have said "What HE said!" ;)
 
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