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FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

jallman said:
But I grew up on milk straight from the cow. Or the goat.
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That's the best kind. My grandma had a dairy farm in Wisconsin, so every summer since I was little we had gone up there to help out and whatever. Mostly it sucked because farm work...well dairy farm work...ain't so much fun. But the milk was delicious. I love unpasteurized, straight into the mason jar, then into the fridge milk.
 
TheNextEra said:
Again, there are labels and serving sizes. People are exceeding the serving sizes. Why should the food companies be punished when it is the people screwing up?
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I'm not sure how you figure this to be some kind of punishment?
 
NoJingoLingo said:
I'm not sure how you figure this to be some kind of punishment?
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By having to alter their manufacturing process and the formulas for their products. It's actually a science to balance the flavors and the preservative qualities fo processed foods.
 
Moon said:
Then what's the point of restricting the amount in prepackaged foods? It's a pointless exercise in growing the bureaucratic nanny state.
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I don't understand that response... How did you get "a pointless exercise" from my post?

And if you're worried about someone's actions affecting others, then speed limits should be no higher than 25 mph everywhere. Would you support that in the interest of the greater good?
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That's a false analogy A) because there is already restrictions on speed and B) because you can add salt to your food.
 
jallman said:
So choose a different bread with a lower sodium content. Or here's an idea: don't have a sandwich. :shrug:

My point was that you have tools available to help you make wise decisions. If you have a sodium problem, thats on you. It's not on the rest of the country to have the government step in and tell manufacturers to limit their sodium content because you failed to research what you put in your body.
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Why are you so against LIMITING the amount of sodium in pre-packaged foods, aren't there limits on other chemicals/contaminants/impurities as well? I don't hear you complaining that we should have more Red Dye in our foods... as an example and what do you know, M&M's didn't go the way of the Dodo.
 
Moon said:
It seems to be a common theme in this thread that these proposed regulations will really not do much to impact people's salt consumption, since you can still ad as much salt as you want, and consume as much prepackaged food as you want.

So what's the benefit of this regulation, then? Is it worth the cost of creating and enforcing the regulation, not to mention the added cost to businesses to adjust their products and packaging?

Honestly, all I see is additional federal intrusion into the marketplace, with no perceptible benefit to Americans.
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What are you talking about? Of course it will be of benefit, especially to children who increasingly pop frozen foods into the microwave and generally could give a crap about the labels.

Not to mention the fact that if you eat a Pepperoni Hot Pocket for example, 850mg sodium. Your secondary argument seems to be that if they cut the sodium to 425mg you seem to think people will eat 2 of them just to get the same amount of salt. Seems pretty ridiculous when you actually think about it, eh?
 
jallman said:
Don't you know? It gives liberal hysterics a chance to codefy their hysterical cause du jour into a law for the rest of us to deal with. Because you know...you can't possibly know what's good for you without some liberal nutjob standing over you telling you what's good for you.:roll:

The only benefit is to make a whiney segment of the population feel good about their dramatics.
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The only ones I see being hysterical are the OH NO DON'T TOUCH MY MEDICARE... I mean SALT, folks. :rofl

Not to mention that it's not the "liberals" who found that Americans are consuming too much salt for their own good. Which BTW kinda shoots down the whole, 'we can decide for ourselves if it's good for us or not'.
 
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NoJingoLingo said:
Why are you so against LIMITING the amount of sodium in pre-packaged foods, aren't there limits on other chemicals/contaminants/impurities as well? I don't hear you complaining that we should have more Red Dye in our foods... as an example and what do you know, M&M's didn't go the way of the Dodo.
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First of all, I am not advocating that we should have more sodium in our food either so your comparison is invalid from the start.

Secondly, red dye is not a natural element our bodies need anyway. It serves no purpose save pure cosmetics and whether you consumed a gallon or a drop, the effects were harmful.

Third, what I AM against is another expansion of government intrusion into the market place. Consumption of sodium in processed food is not a health risk. OVER consumption of processed food is the health risk. I don't see how limiting any one ingredient is going to change habits of OVER consumption of the whole food itself. It's a meaningless bandaid measure that attempts to cure a severed limb.
 
jallman said:
By having to alter their manufacturing process and the formulas for their products. It's actually a science to balance the flavors and the preservative qualities fo processed foods.
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Well **** man, let's put the lead back in paint. God forbid we should stop corporations from poisoning the public for profit. Why is everything about profit to you corporatists? Oh wait... never mind.
 
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I haven't actually seen the movie, so your references continue to be lost on me. Just add more salt! Are you really that lazy that the thought of having to get up to get your salt shaker sends you into a conservative seizure?
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The movie is a horror called Roe v. Wade. Lefties are all over abortion rights, and the ill effects beyond extermination are known. Dangerous... and deadly... yet defended tooth and nail by the pro-death party. They also fight for kids to be able to get them without parental consent.

Did I get you right? You like your fetus with more salt?

But salt. Now that's something we have to control because the people are too stupid.

Little by little, we lose liberty to the government and the drones say... Geez... that's ok.

Your post was so ridiculous (and your defense even more drone-like) I couldn't help but come out of a couple month hibernation.

With this regulation fiesta in mind, why not monitor people's sexual habits. There's a huge risk there you know. If the baloney finds the wrong hole, could be deadly. Gotta manage that risk.

Tell me, you like your baloney with more or less salt? Sodium free perhaps?

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NoJingoLingo said:
Well **** man, let's put the lead back in paint.
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Your appeal to the absurd is not going to sway me.

God forbid we should stop corporations from poisoning the public for profit.
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Except that sodium isn't a poison. It's a mineral that our bodies need. Overconsumption is what poisons and I am not of a mind to limit anyone based on the bad decisions of others.

Why is everything about profit to you corporatists? Oh wait... never mind.
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Why can't anything ever be about personal responsibility to you hippies? Oh wait...nevermind.
 
I wonder how much salt is in a corporate enchilada? :confused:
 
jallman said:
By having to alter their manufacturing process and the formulas for their products. It's actually a science to balance the flavors and the preservative qualities fo processed foods.
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It sure is. It costs millions to get a product to market. To get one that breaks through, position it, buy shelf space and keep it running.

But for the Clan we have running the show now... most who've never held a real job in their lives... they could care less. It's protect the dregs at all costs time.

We get knocked down to the lowest denominator.

I could handle Clinton and his antics. This is off the charts. It's like a WWII bombing mission coming from DC. They're crapping on us from all angles, from all altitudes, all across the nation.

I have the funny feeling I'm not the only one pissed off at the decay, and drones that support the idiocy.

Is it November yet?
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zimmer said:
It sure is. It costs millions to get a product to market. To get one that breaks through, position it, buy shelf space and keep it running.

But for the Clan we have running the show now... most who've never held a real job in their lives... they could care less. It's protect the dregs at all costs time.

We get knocked down to the lowest denominator.

I could handle Clinton and his antics. This is off the charts. It's like a WWII bombing mission coming from DC. They're crapping on us from all angles, from all altitudes, all across the nation.

I have the funny feeling I'm not the only one pissed off at the decay, and drones that support the idiocy.

Is it November yet?
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zimmer said:
FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons



I spoke with Harkin's office and this is what the babe manning the phones told me:

The bill is for as much for environmental reasons as health reasons.
By reducing salt in our food, our stool production will be up to 15% softer and this would allow for faster fragmentation of the mass. That is critical to reducing the amount of double flushing necessary for the smaller toilet tanks mandated by Congress. Billions of gallons of potable water would be saved over the decades.

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All people have different tolerance levels. Too much and/or two little, and if the product doesn't have enough salt for their tastes, they can always add more and negate congress' good intentions.

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ricksfolly said:
All people have different tolerance levels. Too much and/or two little, and if the product doesn't have enough salt for their tastes, they can always add more and negate congress' good intentions.

ricksfolly
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They can, but the product should be with the salt level the producer decides.
Not some busybody, government dogooder pinhead.

I think we should have someone go into the Senate and house cafeteria's control their food. Each plate. Then... we should be in their houses and control all their intake. OH! Senator... you want beer and chips? No, sorry... can no do.

I think they should have a shadow. They want to shadow us to protect a few dregs... OK... they should get Royal Treatment. Each plate, each decision, each everything from morning to evening.

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zimmer said:
They can, but the product should be with the salt level the producer decides.
Not some busybody, government dogooder pinhead.

I think we should have someone go into the Senate and house cafeteria's control their food. Each plate. Then... we should be in their houses and control all their intake. OH! Senator... you want beer and chips? No, sorry... can no do.

I think they should have a shadow. They want to shadow us to protect a few dregs... OK... they should get Royal Treatment. Each plate, each decision, each everything from morning to evening.

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Are you saying that everyone who disagrees with you is a "busybody, government dogooder pinhead"? Or, are you just generalizing>:confused:
 
jallman said:
Your appeal to the absurd is not going to sway me.



Except that sodium isn't a poison. It's a mineral that our bodies need. Overconsumption is what poisons and I am not of a mind to limit anyone based on the bad decisions of others.



Why can't anything ever be about personal responsibility to you hippies? Oh wait...nevermind.
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Because when personal responsibility fails, what should we do? Let people die in the streets or raise taxes to pay for their medical care?
 
NoJingoLingo said:
Because when personal responsibility fails, what should we do? Let people die in the streets or raise taxes to pay for their medical care?
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Talk about another appeal to the absurd.:doh Watch out where you step Jallman, people are dying in the streets, from salt consumption and it is all the evil corporations fault. Jesus.....................:2razz:
 
Sir Loin said:
Talk about another appeal to the absurd.:doh Watch out where you step Jallman, people are dying in the streets, from salt consumption and it is all the evil corporations fault. Jesus.....................:2razz:
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I agree.....
 
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