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Are School Lunches a National Security Threat?

Catz Part Deux said:
Are school lunches a national security threat? - Yahoo! News



I have to agree with this one. School lunches used to be home-cooked and worth eating. Now, they are disgusting and full of fat in most places that use heavily processed food.
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I disagree. School lunches have nothing to do with it, it is the lack of gym/P.E. classes kids have and what they do at home. Because I am pretty sure that they are serving the same stuff now that they did when I was kid, except today's stuff might be a little bit healthier.
 
jamesrage said:
I disagree. School lunches have nothing to do with it, it is the lack of gym/P.E. classes kids have and what they do at home. Because I am pretty sure that they are serving the same stuff now that they did when I was kid, except today's stuff might be a little bit healthier.
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Catz Part Deux said:
Are school lunches a national security threat? - Yahoo! News

I have to agree with this one. School lunches used to be home-cooked and worth eating. Now, they are disgusting and full of fat in most places that use heavily processed food.
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I think its a combination of both.
 
megaprogman said:
I think its a combination of both.
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Unless the schools started getting fast food companies to make school lunches or they started serving the kids even less healthier food ,then they have been serving the same stuff for decades. So it is not the food that is the culprit. It is the lack of exercise and physical activity on the part of the kids.
 
Yeah it's pretty much food. Don't get me wrong, exercise is an important part of long term health but unless you're taking the kiddies out for a five mile jog, it's not going to do much to cut the flab.

Study: Better nutrition trumps physical activity in avoiding obesity
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Diet, not exercise, plays key role in weight loss - Diet and nutrition- msnbc.com

Dietary changes tend to have more of an impact on weight loss because it's relatively easy to reduce calories through improvements to your diet, while it takes a lot of exercise to burn off an equal number of calories. For instance, you could cut 230 calories a day--enough to lose 2 pounds in a month--simply by skipping that afternoon candy bar; to burn 230 calories through exercise, you'd have to run or walk two miles, which could take up to 40 minutes. "That doesn't mean you can't lose a little weight by exercise alone," Eckel says. "But the caloric value of exercise is modest. You have to exercise a lot to make up for that malt over the weekend."
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The key to losing: exercise or diet? - Weight loss q+a | Shape | Find Articles at BNET

"You Can't Out-Exercise a Big Mac"

A Big Mac has 540 calories. Do you realize how much exercising it takes to burn those calories? Well about an hour on the elliptical trainer at a moderate pace would do the trick! So after an hour of boring cardio, you are back to square one…you probably won't lose weight at all especially if you added the fries and soft drink. Large fries would be an extra 570 calories and a large non-diet soft drink would be an extra 310 calories. So how much exercise would you have to do to burn 1,400+ calories? Let's not even go there!
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Is Diet OR Exercise More Important for Fat Loss and Getting Lean? | Fitness Black Book

Amy Luke of Loyola University and her colleagues compared 149 women from two rural Nigerian villages to 172 African-American women from Chicago. On average, the Nigerian women weighed about 127 pounds whereas the U.S. women weighed about 184.

To their surprise, the researchers determined that after adjusting for the women's body sizes, there was no significant difference in calories the women burned through physical activity. On average, the Chicago women burned an average of 760 calories per day through physical activity while the Nigerian women burned an average of about 800 calories, the researchers report in the September issue of the journal Obesity.

The researchers found good evidence that diet was the culprit. The Nigerian women's diets were high in fiber and carbohydrates and low in fat and animal protein. The U.S. women consumed a diet containing about 40 percent to 45 percent fat and high in processed food.
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The Checkup - Just How Useful Is Exercise at Controlling Weight?





So...yeah. It's pretty much diet. Two chocolate cookies (no milk) takes about a three mile run to burn off. Most adults can't even do that.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Are school lunches a national security threat? - Yahoo! News



I have to agree with this one. School lunches used to be home-cooked and worth eating. Now, they are disgusting and full of fat in most places that use heavily processed food.
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I recall school lunches as real bad a long time ago. In high school we had mystery meat - brown ,unidentifiable, regular shaped pieces of artificial protean impregnated with globs of fat and God knows what else. (PS when NPR interviewed God he denied creating mystery meat said to ask ConArgra ---- )

Fridays we had fish rectangles. They were called Fish S@#$%^& back then but I found out that Fish Sticks is as bad as saying Tea Baggers... so I will not say that dirty irty wordy
 
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Catz Part Deux said:
Are school lunches a national security threat? - Yahoo! News



I have to agree with this one. School lunches used to be home-cooked and worth eating. Now, they are disgusting and full of fat in most places that use heavily processed food.
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I think it's a good idea, I just find it sad that it takes military involvement before people start listening. There have been consumer nutrition and parental advisory groups petitioning for this kind of change for more than a decade now, but only when it's a threat to military numbers do people care.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Are school lunches a national security threat? - Yahoo! News



I have to agree with this one. School lunches used to be home-cooked and worth eating. Now, they are disgusting and full of fat in most places that use heavily processed food.
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OMG so this is what the Communists, Socialists, Chinese, Russians , UN, and Anarchists have been plotting all along. Make the Ameircan kids too fat to serve and at Red Dawn the skinny Chinese wearing baby blue UN helmets wil invade us through Mexico and Brownsville Texas.

sOMEONE NEEDS to Make a movie about this and call it RED Dawn.
 
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rathi said:
Not true.

http://nutrican.fshn.uiuc.edu/findings.html

The poor food served in our schools is pure laziness, not some inherent problem in serving a decent meal balanced between cost, health and taste.
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Um, true.

The heating process during canning destroys from one-third to one-half of vitamins A and C, riboflavin, and thiamin. For every year the food is stored, canned food loses an additional 5 to 20% of these vitamins.
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Diet: Canned Food vs Fresh Food.

Nutrients Lost in the Canning Process
That said, there are a few minor drawbacks to purchasing canned goods over fresh. One study done by students at the University of California showed that canned produce experiences a significant loss in thiamin, B6 and riboflavin, three essential B vitamins.
Sodium Levels
In addition to this, canned food is notorious for its relatively high sodium content. However, fresh frozen fruits and vegetables provide nutritional value comparable to canned food, without the high levels of sodium
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Nutrition Differences Canned Foods Vs. Fresh Produce | eHow.com
 
From your sources, Kelzie.

Most produce will begin to lose some of its nutrients when harvested. When produce is handled properly and canned quickly after harvest, it can be more nutritious than fresh produce sold in stores.
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Popular opinion suggests that fresh produce provides the most nutrients and health benefits over canned foods. However, closer study reveals that this actually may not be the case.
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It is true that the heating process from canning does degrade vitamin a,c, riboflavin and thiamin. However, most of the "fresh produce" has actually been stored for some time, producing similar degradation over a much wider range of important vitamins. For the typical American buying vegetables at the supermarket, canned food are likely to comparable to the average "fresh vegetable". Truly fresh produce from a farmers market will beat out both, but that makes up a small minority us all vegetable consumption. The biggest problem with all canned goods is the tendency to over salt them, although that can be avoided by picking lower sodium brands.
 
rathi said:
From your sources, Kelzie.


It is true that the heating process from canning does degrade vitamin a,c, riboflavin and thiamin. However, most of the "fresh produce" has actually been stored for some time, producing similar degradation over a much wider range of important vitamins. For the typical American buying vegetables at the supermarket, canned food are likely to comparable to the average "fresh vegetable". Truly fresh produce from a farmers market will beat out both, but that makes up a small minority us all vegetable consumption. The biggest problem with all canned goods is the tendency to over salt them, although that can be avoided by picking lower sodium brands.
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And then the same sources broke down where canned food was lacking.

And I'd say the biggest problem with canned food is that it's gross.
 
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I think "unhealthy" may be the wrong word when talking about canned food. It simply has lesser nutritional value. Fresh food is always more nutritionally dense, and for people lucky enough to live near farms, fruit and veggies that have been picked recently have the best value.
 
Jetboogieman said:
When I went to High School in Nova Scotia Canada, half way through my grade 11 the school went the "Healthy Lunch" Route. What ended up happening was they bought the "Healthiest" yet cheapest "Healthiest" crap they could buy. I have to admit, it was probably better for us then the last stuff they had, But it was more expensive and it tasted like the devils ass.

I can't speak to how that may change with future programs if it happens, but that was my experience.
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"devils ass" - is that like Devils Food Cake ? Organic chocolate devils food cake with pine nut frosting may be a good healthy lunch for the kiddies !! It will rot heir teeth out buut what the hell they will be hopping in the 2 or 3 class periods after lunch!!!
 
F107HyperSabr said:
"devils ass" - is that like Devils Food Cake ? Organic chocolate devils food cake with pine nut frosting may be a good healthy lunch for the kiddies !! It will rot heir teeth out buut what the hell they will be hopping in the 2 or 3 class periods after lunch!!!
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Devil's ass is what comes out of the devil after eating devils food cake, broccoli and cabbage, mixed with hot peppers
 
MyOwnDrum said:
When was that? I grew up in the 1960s and they were always highly processed garbage.

I do agree that school lunches need to be improved. Also, school need to start adding mandatory, daily phys ed back into the curriculum. And, parents need to stop being so overprotective and fearful that they don't let their kids outside.
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Maybe we need to have an FCAT for Phys Ed.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Devil's ass is what comes out of the devil after eating devils food cake, broccoli and cabbage, mixed with hot peppers
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OMG - and I bet that there is a new desease or syndrome already Organic Toxic Waste Acquired Syndrome OTWAS
 
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