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White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

Sure, there is nothing wrong with celebrating your race I guess... But fascist groups like the KKK have not and are not just "celebrating." They torture and kill anyone who doesn't look like them. You can't just go around doing horrible things to people and call it celebrating. It's madness.

Ummmm.... We were talking about LaRaza, not the Nazi's. :doh
 
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Never understood why the dregs of the white race tend to be the white "Supremacists"

Rev. Wright, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan... Black Supremacists.

What good for one group of chaotic nutjobs is equally good for the others.

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sure, there is nothing wrong with celebrating your race i guess... But fascist groups like the kkk have not and are not just "celebrating." they torture and kill anyone who doesn't look like them. You can't just go around doing horrible things to people and call it celebrating. It's madness.

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Whites have been 'advantaged' by their innate superiority, not by 'history'....;)

And that would be the definition of racism and hate speech. ;)
 
You are reading WAY to much into it man. WAY to much.

Is that your way of ducking the challenge I made to you of an alternative motive for even making that statement in the first place?



Oh no! we should run in fear because it means "the race". :doh

Do you enjoy making up the reactions of your adversay?

I never said we should run in fear but we shouldn't be ignorant of the definition or how it is used by the group.

Dude, they are celebrating the race and culture they come from and legally trying to help each other. Nothing racist about that. So I guess Saint Patric's day is racist for celebrating the Irish. :lol:

LOL Please tell me you are joking. Are you really trying to relate a religious holiday to a movement based on race? You do know not all Irish are Catholics :rofl

And as my quotes showed, they are far beyond celebrating their race. If you actually read them and had the courage to address them we might actually have a conversation.

Tex your argument on this is out there man.

Making broad statements without addressing the specific points is just lazy dude. Let me know when you are actually ready to debate instead of ducking the major points.
 
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Sure, there is nothing wrong with celebrating your race I guess... But fascist groups like the KKK have not and are not just "celebrating." They torture and kill anyone who doesn't look like them. You can't just go around doing horrible things to people and call it celebrating. It's madness.

There wouldn't be anything wrong with celebrating your 'race', if such things really existed. There is no such thing as 'the White race', not biologically, sociologically, culturally or linguistically. If anyone can give a clear, unambiguous definition of what this white 'race' is, then we can start discussing whether or not it is something to be proud of, to defend, or to attack.

What IS it?
 
Just pointing out, the unarmed invasion is helping support our economy by taking the super low wage jobs no one else will.

yes But then their family's go on welfare and drain the system. most of them get jobs under the table and pay no taxes bottom line is
Legal Immigrant vs Illegal Immigrant
1 is legal the other isn't and should be arrested and deported
 
Is that your way of ducking the challenge I made to you of an alternative motive for even making that statement in the first place?

Do you enjoy making up the reactions of your adversay?

I never said we should run in fear but we shouldn't be ignorant of the definition or how it is used by the group.

LOL Please tell me you are joking. Are you really trying to relate a religious holiday to a movement based on race? You do know not all Irish are Catholics :rofl

And as my quotes showed, they are far beyond celebrating their race. If you actually read them and had the courage to address them we might actually have a conversation.

Making broad statements without addressing the specific points is just lazy dude. Let me know when you are actually ready to debate instead of ducking the major points.

Man you are wrong and way over the top.

It's not worth it as your challenge is nothing but an over reaction to an "imagined" slight. :roll:
 
Man you are wrong and way over the top.

It's not worth it as your challenge is nothing but an over reaction to an "imagined" slight. :roll:

So you aren't interested in actually debating the facts.

Next time just say so.
 
I'd take an illegal immigrant over a White Supremacist any day.
 
What these guys did was wrong and based on hate, but illegal immigrants should be charged with their crime, jailed, and deported. No amnesty for criminals either.
 
So you aren't interested in actually debating the facts.

Next time just say so.

Well I disagree about LaRaza, but it's not really what this thread is about. I don't really feel strongly enough about them to debate it.

I just noticed you misread or what have you Darn's post. If he wanted to say what you accused him of saying, he would just say it, period.
 
Well I disagree about LaRaza, but it's not really what this thread is about. I don't really feel strongly enough about them to debate it.

I just noticed you misread or what have you Darn's post. If he wanted to say what you accused him of saying, he would just say it, period.

Yet you cannot for the third time offer any other reason for him making that statement in the first place.

Simply claiming thats not what he meant isn't enough.
 
Yet you cannot for the third time offer any other reason for him making that statement in the first place.

Simply claiming thats not what he meant isn't enough.

"Yea, but that's no excuse to support the racist buttheads from our side. It's a good cause, but we can have a decent protest with saner people."

He implied none of the things you said. None at all.

Now for the fourth time, you over reacted to an imagined slight.
 
You are reading WAY to much into it man. WAY to much.



Oh no! we should run in fear because it means "the race". :doh

Dude, they are celebrating the race and culture they come from and legally trying to help each other. Nothing racist about that. So I guess Saint Patric's day is racist for celebrating the Irish. :lol:

Tex your argument on this is out there man.

Actually, it does not mean that even. It's a common talking point among some, but it's not the accurate name.

National Council of La Raza: Translation of La Raza

Many people incorrectly translate our name, “La Raza,” as “the race.” While it is true that one meaning of “raza” in Spanish is indeed “race,” in Spanish, as in English and any other language, words can and do have multiple meanings. As noted in several online dictionaries, “La Raza” means “the people” or “the community.” Translating our name as “the race” is not only inaccurate, it is factually incorrect. “Hispanic” is an ethnicity, not a race. As anyone who has ever met a Dominican American, Mexican American, or Spanish American can attest, Hispanics can be and are members of any and all races.

The term “La Raza” has its origins in early 20th century Latin American literature and translates into English most closely as “the people” or, according to some scholars, as “the Hispanic people of the New World.” The term was coined by Mexican scholar José Vasconcelos to reflect the fact that the people of Latin America are a mixture of many of the world’s races, cultures, and religions. Mistranslating “La Raza” to mean “the race” implies that it is a term meant to exclude others. In fact, the full term coined by Vasconcelos, “La Raza Cósmica,” meaning the “cosmic people,” was developed to reflect not purity but the mixture inherent in the Hispanic people. This is an inclusive concept, meaning that Hispanics share with all other peoples of the world a common heritage and destiny.
 
Anyone think the Nazi's could be inciting others to riot, and be persecuted as such?

Not exactly clear what your question is. Are you hooping that the NAZI'S incited a riot or are you saying that they did ? Much grande confused !!
 
A group of racist Nazi scum being counter protested against by pro-illegal scum.So basically it is a one anti-American(Nazis, seeing how they were our enemies in WWII) group being counter protested by another anti-American group(Pro-illegals seeing how they endorse an unarmed invasion of our country). Maybe next we will see PETA being counter protested by Code Pink or Code Pink being counter protested by Fred Phelps.

That has the makings of an indie film - PETA vs THE Pink CODED PANTHERS.
Fred Phelps, well there are bacteria who are more usefull then Fred Phelps.
 

It is too bad that it was the the NAZI White Supremacists group who took up the banner to counter protest the pro-illegals supporters. Illegal immigration is indeed a major pepoblem in our country and is and will continue to undermine the security, economy, govenmental, and social structures of our country unless it is stopped. I would like to think that some administartion soon will take this problem and solve it, or at least try to.

Reagan did nothing abut it. Bush I did about as much. Monica's Boyfriend would rather have didlled an illegal than throw one out. Shrub I made sounds about it but for practical purposes did about as much as the Intern Diddler did. What will BO POTUS do ??
 
Their [La Raza] form of racism is no different than white supremacists.

Wow...:shock::shock: I mean..just wow! The stupidity of that comment is beyond belief.

Is every member of La Raza a racist? No.

Backpedal, backpedal... Paraphrasing: The group I just compared to white supremacists may have some good, non-racist members.

Which begs the question, if La Raza is no different than white supremacists (in your mind) and La Raza may have some non-racist members(in your mind)... Then the Skinheads and neo-nazis must have some non-racists members, too... (per you logic)

Brilliant, text, just billiant...

But the message they send is clear. They look out only for their own race and see American borders as an invasion of "their" land.

Question textmaster: Which treaty negates this position? (don't google it, just answer)
 
Has anyone else noticed this. Certain people or groups who are oppsed to illegal immigration are also opposed to legal immigration. Or put in another way certain people who dislike immigrants dislike all immigrants.

I am technically an immigrant since I came here on that proverbial boat as a 2 year old. I have been a target of anti- immigrant rhetoric but ostly when I hear such rhetoric the self styled "super patriot" doesn't realize that I am an immigrant since I grew up here and do not speak with an accept except a New England Yankee one.

I do fear that a cross over hatred attack will spill over from illegal immigrants to us legals, and it already has to a degree.
 
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