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Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

Yes, I saw that, but "marriage" is a more powerful concept than a legal term. I don't understand why it should be reserved for one group (heterosexuals) over another.



Not even on a debate forum?

Have you read the posts on this thread at all my left wing friend.......The reason has been explained about a hundred times so take the time to read the thread and get back to us.....thanks.......
 
Have you read the posts on this thread at all my left wing friend.......The reason has been explained about a hundred times so take the time to read the thread and get back to us.....thanks.......

Perhaps not to the oppositions satisfaction. I a certainly not satisfied with the explanation.
 
Have you read the posts on this thread at all my left wing friend.......The reason has been explained about a hundred times so take the time to read the thread and get back to us.....thanks.......

I've certainly heard the counter-arguments to gay marriage, they're just not the arguments that will hold water for someone who supports g/m. The pro g/m side will only ever be convinced by an argument that successfully demonstrates direct harm by g/m to other people. Arguments that stem from all other reasoning (history, religion, morality, slippery slope arguments and the need to show that homosexuality is a choice) will never work. Not sayin' that it's not fun to debate on occasion, but the disconnect pretty much guarantees that it will only be settled through the many battles of the culture war, never by one side convincing the other.
 
I've certainly heard the counter-arguments to gay marriage, they're just not the arguments that will hold water for someone who supports g/m. The pro g/m side will only ever be convinced by an argument that successfully demonstrates direct harm by g/m to other people. Arguments that stem from all other reasoning (history, religion, morality, slippery slope arguments and the need to show that homosexuality is a choice) will never work. Not sayin' that it's not fun to debate on occasion, but the disconnect pretty much guarantees that it will only be settled through the many battles of the culture war, never by one side convincing the other.


I don't really care if our side convinces your side on this very important issue my left wing friend.....I just want to make sure that the definition of marriage remains as it is....I believe that the reasons given for that happening are valid...
 
I don't really care if our side convinces your side on this very important issue my left wing friend.....I just want to make sure that the definition of marriage remains as it is....I believe that the reasons given for that happening are valid...

And you define it for all? Freedom means the freedom to have your will be done?
 
How come your not in grade school today sonny?

Now that was a good answer. Not to the actual question mind you, but enjoyable all the same. Now, can you answer the question? ;)
 
I don't really care if our side convinces your side on this very important issue my left wing friend.....I just want to make sure that the definition of marriage remains as it is....I believe that the reasons given for that happening are valid...

Problem for you Navy....is that the old bigots are slowly dying out and the new generations are much more tolerant and open minded.
We don't have to convince your clan. We just have to wait until enough of them have died off and the new generations are born.
THAT my friend is happening at a very rapid rate. Be afraid....my right-wing friend....
 
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