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Gay Marriage Fails to get on California Ballot

Navy Pride said:
He is one black man and a huge liberal like you..I don't think he speaks for all black people........You should ask the black ministers that speak from the pulpit in the south..........
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That is not what he said Navy. He said "black people". Hatuey is a black man. If he is going to make generalizations, we should be able to put them to a test.
 
Redress said:
Good that we can all have a reasonable discussion on an issue....
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That is what you want...your not looking for debate just a bunch of liberals like yourself that agree with you..........To bad whistlestopper is closed.........they went out of business because they were all liberals...You would fit right in there...............
 
Navy Pride said:
He is one black man and a huge liberal like you..I don't think he speaks for all black people........You should ask the black ministers that speak from the pulpit in the south..........
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And you do?

Sure....there are a lot of black ministers that preach hatred. They are not different from white....or asian...etc....ministers that preach hatred.

Just because blacks have suffered discrimination as a race....doesn't mean that all of them are free of bigotry.
 
Redress said:
That is not what he said Navy. He said "black people". Hatuey is a black man. If he is going to make generalizations, we should be able to put them to a test.
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Hautuey is to the left of Obama.......
 
Erod said:
Uh, trust me, they absolutely HATE it.
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All of them? Every single one? I'm sure conservative ones do but that seems like a REALLY broad statement for you to make. Unless you've asked them all, in which case I apologize.
 
Navy Pride said:
Refresh my memory.........-
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Go back and re-read....here....I'll give you a clue.

Why do you think that a direct challenge to Roe v. Wade hasn't been heard by the Supreme Court if it isn't such a solid law?

The answer is the same.
 
disneydude said:
And you do?

Sure....there are a lot of black ministers that preach hatred. They are not different from white....or asian...etc....ministers that preach hatred.

Just because blacks have suffered discrimination as a race....doesn't mean that all of them are free of bigotry.
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I don't want to get into religion with you but your calling the bible hatred.........shame on you DD.........
 
disneydude said:
Go back and re-read....here....I'll give you a clue.

Why do you think that a direct challenge to Roe v. Wade hasn't been heard by the Supreme Court if it isn't such a solid law?

The answer is the same.
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No its because of the make up of the court in 1973 and you know it.......
 
Navy Pride said:
You should ask the black ministers that speak from the pulpit in the south..........
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OMG this is to funny. Do you think every black minister in the south is against gay marriage?

I mean really talk about stereotyping.... I guess they all eat fried chicken and watermelon too.
 
Kelzie said:
All of them? Every single one? I'm sure conservative ones do but that seems like a REALLY broad statement for you to make. Unless you've asked them all, in which case I apologize.
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No the vast majority do...........
 
Navy Pride said:
I don't want to get into religion with you but your calling the bible hatred.........shame on you DD.........
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I'm not calling the Bible hatred. I'm talking about the many "pharisees" and hypocrites that try to manipulate the bible to justify hatred.

Where did Jesus ever talk about homosexuality and the hatred that many Christian ministers spew from their pulpits?
 
Navy Pride said:
No its because of the make up of the court in 1973 and you know it.......
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OMG.....ok....I'm not even going to try with you....:doh:doh:doh

You just don't get it when it comes to Supreme Court issues. You need to stick to the other topics.
 
Navy Pride said:
I don't want to get into religion with you but your calling the bible hatred.........shame on you DD.........
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Jesus Christ preached tolerance and love for all man. He would be down right ashamed at the conduct of many, many Christians in this world.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
Last I checked, about 10% of the population was estimated to be homosexual.

You don't think that makes them a minority?
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Ridiculous. About 10 percent of the population likes beets. Does that make them a minority?

So are men under 5-foot-5 minorities? How about people with hairy backs?

What about a 5-foot-5 hairy gay man who likes beets?
 
Kelzie said:
Jesus Christ preached tolerance and love for all man. He would be down right ashamed at the conduct of many, many Christians in this world.
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You think Jesus would approve of gay marriage? He would love them, but would he approve?
 
Kelzie said:
Jesus Christ preached tolerance and love for all man. He would be down right ashamed at the conduct of many, many Christians in this world.
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AMEN!!!

Those who are the loudest to proclaim themselves "CHRISTIAN" are almost always those who preach the furthest away from the things that Christ taught.:good_job:
 
Erod said:
Ridiculous. About 10 percent of the population likes beets. Does that make them a minority?

So are men under 5-foot-5 minorities? How about people with hairy backs?

What about a 5-foot-5 hairy gay man who likes beets?
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First of all I call BS. Beets are lovely, lovely vegetables!

If we discriminate against beet lovers based off of their root vegetable preference, I suppose eventually they would be considered a minority.
 
Navy Pride said:
That is what you want...your not looking for debate just a bunch of liberals like yourself that agree with you..........To bad whistlestopper is closed.........they went out of business because they were all liberals...You would fit right in there...............
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Navy, I am me. I am not "liberals". If you want to debate me, feel free. Just remember, I am not your "left wing friend", I am not any of your labels, and I don't fall for the whole try and change the topic when you got caught crap you love to play.

I don't give a **** about any whistlestoppers site, it has nothing to do with this discussion. Want to try and be on topic? I don't care where you think I might fit in or belong, it has nothing to do with this discussion. Want to try and stay on topic?
 
disneydude said:
No they don't.
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Let me ask you a question......If gay marriage is so popular why do over 30 states have constitutional amendments against it and why did over 80 senators and Clinton sign a federal DOMA defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman?
 
disneydude said:
AMEN!!!

Those who are the loudest to proclaim themselves "CHRISTIAN" are almost always those who preach the furthest away from the things that Christ taught.:good_job:
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You need to spend a little time with the Bible. Hate the sin, love the sinner. Because Jesus loves unconditionally does not mean action or lifestyle is unconditionally accepted.
 
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