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Dubai kissing couple face jail as appeal fails

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Now is this an ally you want to have any where let alone in the middle east.

This is just crazy (expletive deleted) from a country that could be the middle east if they would drop the Islamic Cult BS.

To the CULT of Islamic foolishness any expression of love is a sin but killing innocent woman and chilren is a path to the Cults idea of heaven.

This is purely crazy, and points out why we need to stop doing business with any country that ruled but this Cults dictates, starting with Saudi Arabia.

If we had a leader willing to do the right thing w could tell the Arab world to kiss off, and we would actually drill for oil where we know it is to be found in our own Nation and just off shore. Th PHONY Obama and the PHONY environmentally ill won't allow us to be independent of the Cult.



Dubai kissing couple face jail as appeal fails - CNN.com

Dubai, United Arab Emirates (CNN -- A Dubai appeals court judge has upheld the verdict against a British couple caught kissing in public.

Unless the couple makes a second appeal within 30 days, the court's decision Sunday means authorities will jail the couple for a month and then deport them. They will also be fined $300 for drinking alcohol.

Ayman Najafi and Charlotte Adams were arrested in November, accused of kissing and touching each other intimately in public -- violations of law against public indecency -- and consuming alcohol.

Najafi is a British man who lives and works in Dubai; Charlotte Adams is a British female tourist who was visiting the city-state at the time.

The couple was dining with friends at Bob's Easy Diner, one of a stretch of cafes on a popular strip behind the city's Jumeirah Beach. An Emirati woman with her family reported their behavior to police.

The foreign population has soared in Dubai in recent years as expatriates, courted by the country, flock to the booming emirate to work.

Now, expatriates outnumber locals by more than eight to one in the port city -- one of seven emirates that make up the oil-rich Gulf nation.
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So what you're saying is that Dubai being our "ally" and the crazy laws they have there is Obama's fault.

...that's a new one.
 
No, I think he is saying we shouldn't ally ourselves with nations like this. If anything I would imagine liberals being livid with Obama wanting to ally himself with a nation that religiously oppresses everyone regardless of their faith. Not only that, but the laws are based off of their faith. I don't want to bash Islam or say it's all like this. But this is unreasonable and Obama does need to crack down on absurd Arab laws if he wants to befriend them and make them allies. Their does need to be a massive crack down on the Middle East. I agree with the OP.
 
If we cut off complete relations with every country we disagreed with, that would be more than 75% of the world.

I agree this is a terrible repressive government. But you know, there are governments that are even worse. Governments that look the other way at drug trafficking, at child sex slavery, and at the blatant suppression of minority rights.

There's one country that even allows discrimination against its own people for things they have no control over. Whoops! That's us. Whew! Good thing all those other countries that don't discriminate aren't holding us to that same standard you want us to hold them to!

Bottom line: You're right, it's terrible. But geez, get some perspective.
 
The rules in Dubai are pretty clear cut. I mean, men and women can't even be together at the beach unless they're married. Making out in public is just taboo. It's also pretty taboo in East Asia as well, and India.

Know the rules of the country you live in, and live by them or go home. It's really that simple.
 
I actually find it funny he blames President Obama for the U.S. still being allied with UAE when the U.S. has been their ally since the 1970s. So that means blame also goes to Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., and Obama.
 
Councilman said:
If we had a leader willing to do the right thing w could tell the Arab world to kiss off, and we would actually drill for oil where we know it is to be found in our own Nation and just off shore. Th PHONY Obama and the PHONY environmentally ill won't allow us to be independent of the Cult.
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Firstly, what everyone else said.

Secondly, Obama is doing exactly that.

Obama Explains Lift of Oil-Drilling Ban - TIME
 
Orion said:
The rules in Dubai are pretty clear cut. I mean, men and women can't even be together at the beach unless they're married. Making out in public is just taboo. It's also pretty taboo in East Asia as well, and India.
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Really? Then why is it commonly seen in nearly every East Asian country I have been to except the Islamic ones?
 
soccerboy22 said:
I actually find it funny he blames President Obama for the U.S. still being allied with UAE when the U.S. has been their ally since the 1970s. So that means blame also goes to Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., and Obama.
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Did the OP NOT blame those former presidents?

Frankly, I have long been a critic of befriending some of those countries, ESPECIALLY KSA, regardless of WHO was the president.
 
Orion said:
The rules in Dubai are pretty clear cut. I mean, men and women can't even be together at the beach unless they're married. Making out in public is just taboo. It's also pretty taboo in East Asia as well, and India.

Know the rules of the country you live in, and live by them or go home. It's really that simple.
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True.

Doesn't mean that we cannot criticize the laws as backwards laws.
 
soccerboy22 said:
I actually find it funny he blames President Obama for the U.S. still being allied with UAE when the U.S. has been their ally since the 1970s. So that means blame also goes to Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., and Obama.
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I find it funny and totally predictable; hence, why I have councilman on "ignore." I refuse to read horsepoop when it's the same ol', same ol' all the time. *yawn*
 
aps said:
I find it funny and totally predictable; hence, why I have councilman on "ignore." I refuse to read horsepoop when it's the same ol', same ol' all the time. *yawn*
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I can understand being partisan, but "blindly partisan" is another story entirely. On this point, I say I have to agree with you...
 
aps said:
I find it funny and totally predictable; hence, why I have councilman on "ignore." I refuse to read horsepoop when it's the same ol', same ol' all the time. *yawn*
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See I won't put anyone on ignore because I feel for a good debate you should read what everyone says. But when people start saying things like this they lose credibility and better have damn good sources to back up their claims. Regardless this isn't the topic of the thread.

While I think the law is stupid, the husband should have known the laws since he was living in the country. Therefore I don't really feel bad for them, but still think the law is stupid. Sort of high schoolish when you really think about it. No public PDA.
 
Councilman said:
If we had a leader willing to do the right thing w could tell the Arab world to kiss off, and we would actually drill for oil where we know it is to be found in our own Nation and just off shore. Th PHONY Obama and the PHONY environmentally ill won't allow us to be independent of the Cult.
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We can perhaps eventually tell the Arab world to kiss off, if we develop alternative fuels and alternatives to our unhealthy reliance on petroleum. However, the U.S. lacks adequate fuel reserves to supply our country indefinitely, no matter where we drill.

It would be lovely if you actually researched your points.

For the record, by expanding drilling to within 125 miles of the gulf coast region, Obama has already significantly expanded the U.S.'s potential oil reserves, as that area has the greatest abundance of oil within U.S. boundaries for drilling, either onshore or offshore.

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_the_United_States[/ame]
 
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soccerboy22 said:
See I won't put anyone on ignore because I feel for a good debate you should read what everyone says. But when people start saying things like this they lose credibility and better have damn good sources to back up their claims. Regardless this isn't the topic of the thread.
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I am happy to read opinions from all people, except those who spout nonsense. I don't care to waste my time reading utter nonsense. I put people on ignore who consistently post total BS.

While I think the law is stupid, the husband should have known the laws since he was living in the country. Therefore I don't really feel bad for them, but still think the law is stupid. Sort of high schoolish when you really think about it. No public PDA.
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I'm with you. I have no sympathy for these people.
 
I really consider it a non-issue. One of the bigger problems America has is that it attempts to export its morality to other nations - whether they want it or not. Yeah, I think it's blown out of proportion, but I wouldn't listen to anyone coming to America and trying to change the laws of the land and I won't expect another country to go against their own because "America disagrees".

People need to know what's acceptable and what's not in their own land. Nobody is forcing them to stay there.
 
Dubai is actually not that oppressive of a place, considering it is the middle east. I've been there. In fact, a group of friends and I played paint ball against an Arab family while we were there. Now it's more oppressive then places like Bahrain, but still it could be worse.

Plus, like others have said, the couple should have known the laws, since the guy lived there. Besides, I kinda wonder if the couple was just innocently kissing or if they were groping each other, because I know that there were some couples that kissed in the bar that we all went to. They have hookers in Dubai too. There was a whole section of them at the TGI Thursday's where my friends and I ate dinner. And one of the stories that some of our guys told the rest of the division involved a whore house and a stinky prostitute.

And, as others have pointed out, the UAE has been an "ally" for decades. We pulled into the country twice during my first WestPac, the second time was about 2 months after the Cole was hit. It was the only Middle Eastern country that we got to go to during that Pac.
 
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