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Obama to Unveil Offshore Oil Drilling Plans

digsbe said:
Well I saw in the Fox article that it isn't many sites, just ones off the coast of Virginia, however he also closed sites in Alaska. So I'm not sure if this is actually bringing in more, or if it's a redistribution of where you can drill. I need to educate myself more on the issue though.
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Here's what you need to know that many people don't: we simply don't have enough oil to make a difference.

We have lots of natural gas and coal, but very little oil. The U.S. has only 3% of the world's oil. We consume 26%. Our 3% can never change prices more than a few cents a gallon, let alone ever hope to replace foreign oil.

The only way to decrease dependence on foreign oil is to decrease dependence on all oil.
 
Politics101 said:
I wonder if anyone has informed Obama that Global warming is not caused by humans, and that the Earth has seen virtually no warming since 1995. :bright:
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Thanks, Professor Science.
 
Erod said:
LOL

Because either you aren't paying attention, or you're a mindless lemming.
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He never said he would not allow offshore drilling in certain cases. Looks like you are the biased mindless lemming that gets all his info from Glenn Beck..
 
Progressive86 said:
Not all of these have to do with health care but the ones that do are just to name a few.

Senate Republicans Offer More Amendments - Prescriptions Blog - NYTimes.com

Also, Conservative Democrat Bart Stupak made sure Pres. Obama signed an executive order that would eliminate any public funding for abortion. That sounds like something the Republicans would be in favor of. Just because they didn't vote for it doesn't mean that the legislation leaned more towards their direction.
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You do know the health care bill trumps an executive order. Stupak may have once said he was a conservative democrat, however, after voting for taxpayer funded abortions based on a flimsy executive order, I'd say he more than lost the conservative title to his democrat voting record.
 
Politics101 said:
You're welcome! I'm here to help, but you must always ask for it first. :pimpdaddy:
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Arctic Change: Global - Global Temprature Trends

Calendar year 2009 was tied for the second warmest year in the modern record, according to the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) analysis of surface air temperature measurements. Although 2008 was the coolest year of the decade, due to strong cooling of the tropical Pacific Ocean, 2009 saw a return to near-record global temperatures, according to the GISS analysis. The past year was only a fraction of a degree cooler than 2005, the warmest year on record, and tied with a cluster of other years — 1998, 2002, 2003, 2006 and 2007 1998 and 2007 — as the second warmest year since recordkeeping began.


I liked republicans much better when they cared about the environment.
 
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fishinRod said:
i faintly remember somebody being chastised for saying "drill baby drill"......what happened to all the windmill farms that were going to save the world?
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It is called 'Blowing in the wind' baby!
 
Councilman said:
Frankly this is puzzling to me because it's out of character for Obama. He still is pushing to destroy the economy with his his climate change and energy bill, to fight problems that does not exist.

This is confusing at best, and makes me wonder what is really going on or is this a misdirection play to once again try to draw attention away from the PHONY Health Plan and all the taxes coming from it.
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No mystery here, just politics. Both Congress and Obama know our immediate economy depends on oil and coal. Just because they signed onto GW doesn't necessarily mean they believes it, (common sense demands proof, not just theory) but GW is a plausible way to hire new people, and that's the immediate goal.

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I honestly think if Obama is doing this truly with good intent than I am all for it and this is a +1 for me. I don't understand why many conservatives are upset with Obama doing this. If they are for more oil drilling in the US (as I am for as well) why does it matter who authorizes it? Conservatives and those supporting off shore drilling should be happy about this. If it's based on principal than we should be accepting this as a good thing and acknowledging that Obama made the right choice in our eyes. If it's about partisanship then just simply hate it because it was proposed by a man with a (D) in front of his name. I'm all for it regardless of who or whatever political party brings it to fruition.
 
digsbe said:
I honestly think if Obama is doing this truly with good intent than I am all for it and this is a +1 for me. I don't understand why many conservatives are upset with Obama doing this. If they are for more oil drilling in the US (as I am for as well) why does it matter who authorizes it? Conservatives and those supporting off shore drilling should be happy about this. If it's based on principal than we should be accepting this as a good thing and acknowledging that Obama made the right choice in our eyes. If it's about partisanship then just simply hate it because it was proposed by a man with a (D) in front of his name. I'm all for it regardless of who or whatever political party brings it to fruition.
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They're mad that they didn't get to do it and get credit. And they're mad that Obama isn't living up to their goofy extremist portrayal of him.

This will do nothing to lower gas prices by the way, now or ever.
 
misterman said:
They're mad that they didn't get to do it and get credit. And they're mad that Obama isn't living up to their goofy extremist portrayal of him.

This will do nothing to lower gas prices by the way, now or ever.
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How will it not lower gas prices? And even if it doesn't this will still be a good thing. It means wealth stays circulating in the US and not to foreign countries. Plus if we are energy independent then we won't have to worry about oil embargoes (like what has happened in the past). Energy independence is a good thing and drilling for oil in America is a great step forward.
 
digsbe said:
I honestly think if Obama is doing this truly with good intent than I am all for it and this is a +1 for me. I don't understand why many conservatives are upset with Obama doing this. If they are for more oil drilling in the US (as I am for as well) why does it matter who authorizes it? Conservatives and those supporting off shore drilling should be happy about this. If it's based on principal than we should be accepting this as a good thing and acknowledging that Obama made the right choice in our eyes. If it's about partisanship then just simply hate it because it was proposed by a man with a (D) in front of his name. I'm all for it regardless of who or whatever political party brings it to fruition.
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If Obama is serious about this(still think it might be an April fools prank), then I think he deserves credit for it and I applaud his pragmatic outlook on our energy demands. He also recently approved a small amount(athough not enough IMO) for nuclear power research or building, IIRC. If he approaches our energy problems with an open mind that pursues our own energy reserves, nuclear, "green", or other alternative energies then he is doing the right thing IMO. Its when people shun any one of these avenues that we do discredit to our own economy.
 
digsbe said:
I honestly think if Obama is doing this truly with good intent than I am all for it and this is a +1 for me. I don't understand why many conservatives are upset with Obama doing this. If they are for more oil drilling in the US (as I am for as well) why does it matter who authorizes it? Conservatives and those supporting off shore drilling should be happy about this. If it's based on principal than we should be accepting this as a good thing and acknowledging that Obama made the right choice in our eyes. If it's about partisanship then just simply hate it because it was proposed by a man with a (D) in front of his name. I'm all for it regardless of who or whatever political party brings it to fruition.
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I agree with you 100%

I think the republicans are mad because Obama started dancing with THEIR girlfriend. (who is probably a gay 18 year old guy the way the republicans have been doing with sex scandels as of late :roll: )
 
digsbe said:
I honestly think if Obama is doing this truly with good intent than I am all for it and this is a +1 for me. I don't understand why many conservatives are upset with Obama doing this. If they are for more oil drilling in the US (as I am for as well) why does it matter who authorizes it? Conservatives and those supporting off shore drilling should be happy about this. If it's based on principal than we should be accepting this as a good thing and acknowledging that Obama made the right choice in our eyes. If it's about partisanship then just simply hate it because it was proposed by a man with a (D) in front of his name. I'm all for it regardless of who or whatever political party brings it to fruition.
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fair enough

thanks, barry!

obama's totally incompetent

he is SEEN as just making this stuff up

where the heck did THIS ONE come from

where the heck was it LAST WEDNESDAY

you can't just PRESIDE by the seat of your improvisational pants

he's far flippier than carter, MISTER vacillation

on another level, he GAVE this away for nothing

did he consult his congress, what will ms nancy say

cuz he aint gonna get a cent of cap nor trade

it's like boehner is putin and oil is sdi in poland

the piefaced prez gives away gratis

it's one of his better moves, i guess

it's certainly gonna lead to some excellent, excellent JOBS

but that's not WHY he's doing it, and his manipulativeness is transparent

his health care's not transparent, but his maneuvering is

he's a rank amateur, has no idea how to lead

where's the consistency, where's the vision, where's the steady hand

the questions elicit LOL's

sorry
 
Councilman said:
Frankly this is puzzling to me because it's out of character for Obama. He still is pushing to destroy the economy with his his climate change and energy bill, to fight problems that does not exist.

This is confusing at best, and makes me wonder what is really going on or is this a misdirection play to once again try to draw attention away from the PHONY Health Plan and all the taxes coming from it.

Curious, I can't wait to see what he comes up with next, it's a month away from April Fools day.




Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.
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This is nothing more than a fake. It doesn't require any consideration. It won't produce domestic oil.
 
USA-1 said:
Arctic Change: Global - Global Temprature Trends

Calendar year 2009 was tied for the second warmest year in the modern record, according to the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) analysis of surface air temperature measurements. Although 2008 was the coolest year of the decade, due to strong cooling of the tropical Pacific Ocean, 2009 saw a return to near-record global temperatures, according to the GISS analysis. The past year was only a fraction of a degree cooler than 2005, the warmest year on record, and tied with a cluster of other years — 1998, 2002, 2003, 2006 and 2007 1998 and 2007 — as the second warmest year since recordkeeping began.


I liked republicans much better when they cared about the environment.
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Excellent starting point, thanks for adding the reference where the data came from, which is "according to the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) analysis of surface air temperature measurements."

GHCN adjusts the raw climate data to remove what it calls "inhomogeneities." One of the things that ClimateGate revealed is a fact that, until all of the station "adjustments" are examined, adjustments of CRU, GHCN, and GISS cannot be trusted if using homogenized numbers.

So, the most important question I have for you is this: which data was used in the report for calendar year 2009, suggesting it was "tied for the second warmest year in the modern record?" I have a feeling you were using Junk Science, and the report is therefore bogus.
 
Politics101 said:
You do know the health care bill trumps an executive order.
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Not the way Bush used them.

Stupak may have once said he was a conservative democrat, however, after voting for taxpayer funded abortions based on a flimsy executive order, I'd say he more than lost the conservative title to his democrat voting record.
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There is no federal funding of abortions in the Health Care law. :doh
 
Politics101 said:
Excellent starting point, thanks for adding the reference where the data came from, which is "according to the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) analysis of surface air temperature measurements."

GHCN adjusts the raw climate data to remove what it calls "inhomogeneities." One of the things that ClimateGate revealed is a fact that, until all of the station "adjustments" are examined, adjustments of CRU, GHCN, and GISS cannot be trusted if using homogenized numbers.

So, the most important question I have for you is this: which data was used in the report for calendar year 2009, suggesting it was "tied for the second warmest year in the modern record?" I have a feeling you were using Junk Science, and the report is therefore bogus.
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The greenhouse effect is not junk science. It is proven science. Elevated levels of CO2 in the atmosphere, much of it from burning fossil fuels, is starting to change our climate. Al Gore didn't invent it.
 
USA-1 said:
The greenhouse effect is not junk science. It is proven science. Elevated levels of CO2 in the atmosphere, much of it from burning fossil fuels, is starting to change our climate. Al Gore didn't invent it.
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That doesn't answer my question. Which data was used in the report for calendar year 2009, suggesting it was "tied for the second warmest year in the modern record? Was it the raw data or the "adjusted" data?

edit to add: by "adjusted," I mean homogenized.
 
digsbe said:
I honestly think if Obama is doing this truly with good intent than I am all for it and this is a +1 for me. I don't understand why many conservatives are upset with Obama doing this.
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Do you favor Cap and Trade? From what I can tell, it's just Obama's way of getting Republicans on board so that he can claim it as a bi-partisan "victory" and possibly save some Democrats their seats in the next two elections.
 
digsbe said:
How will it not lower gas prices? And even if it doesn't this will still be a good thing. It means wealth stays circulating in the US and not to foreign countries. Plus if we are energy independent then we won't have to worry about oil embargoes (like what has happened in the past). Energy independence is a good thing and drilling for oil in America is a great step forward.
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I applaud your youthful innocence. Really I do. Based on your posts I've read on this site, you are probably a really nice honest decent young man.

There is a much larger picture here than the US becoming energy independent. We can't do that, and we won't do that. Geopolitical pressures for us to buy oil from other countries will keep us dependent. I wish it were as simple, and that our politicians really wanted us to drill our own oil and disengage ourselves from the world, but it's not going to happen any time in the near future.
 
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