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House GOP No. 2: Someone shot at my office

Maybe they're a Communist. :2razz:

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She does have a pair of intelligent points there !!!! There is a principle in Communism 'from each to gthe best of her his abilities and to each for their needs' Ya think that she can provide her abilitiee to our CAPILTALIST NEEDS ????!
 
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It's a process abuse, and it's a constitutional issue, it has nothing to do with me.

What part of passing the house, passing the senate, getting signed is process abuse. Let's not make **** up just cuz your side lost.

I never knew conservatives where so whiney. Seriously, I would be embarrassed if I was a conservative right now.
 
ah, but the polls pegged massachusetts

and jersey

and virginia

and obama 08...

i guarantee you mr dillon and ms sink aren't quite so cavalier

cuz they're pros

and twenty points in march is murder

enjoy the game

And the health care is dead, and the polls for the Michigan governors race is somehow relevant. Your credibility is not there...
 
And the health care is dead, and the polls for the Michigan governors race is somehow relevant. Your credibility is not there...

yeh what you said is really good, AND REAL 'TELLIGENT you know, but us guys we think that the Commie chick in the picture she can really handle a gun - LOL !!!! IT'S LATE !!!!
 
What part of passing the house, passing the senate, getting signed is process abuse. Let's not make **** up just cuz your side lost.

I never knew conservatives where so whiney. Seriously, I would be embarrassed if I was a conservative right now.
Bribery isn't legal, coercion isn't legal, unequal application(Unions, Nebraska, Louisiana) are not legal under the constitution, reconcilliation was less than ethcial in a non budget bill, there were threats issued and other tactics, strongarming, etc.
Let's not pretend this was all done correctly.
And that's not even to factor in the ninth and tenth amendments were disregarded.
 
Still making predictions that will never come true...

virginia, jersey and massachusetts are predictions that will never come true?

LOL!

what an oddly backward perspective

the polls were spot on in the old dominion, garden and jersey states

the polls have the party in power DOWN by from TEN to TWENTY points in just about every key battleground in the nation

it really has nothing to do with ME, tho i'm flattered by your attention

but i suspect it might have a little something to do with the ONLY issue ANYONE in this adminstration has been talking about for MONTHS

why did obama go to iowa city today to SELL health care?

LOL!

doesn't he think people LIKE it?

LOLOL!
 
I've done a considerable amount of legislative lobbying.

Apparently that taught you how to duck 90% of a post.

This is precisely why every single congresscritter has multiple aides from a variety of professional backgrounds whose role is to provide guidance on legislation. It is physically impossible for an elected official to read every single page of every single page of legislation that he/she votes on.

Of course this is a completely false statement. Of course they could read it. They choose not to.

Are you really going to sit there and claim its ok to change 1/6th of the economy with a bill numbering in the thousands of pages and giving 3 days to read it? Seriously? You really think thats ok?

Personally, my field of expertise is in law enforcement and gangs. That's what I've provided guidance on. I've read countless pieces of legislation and provided summaries of them.

Yes yes. You have high levels of smartness. Please get to a point.

That's why these folks have staff...to do this work. When you vote for a congressman/woman, you are not only electing him, but his entire staff, all of whom will be working for you.

Almost 2000 pages in 3 days.

3 DAYS. Please don't be so dishonest that you can pretend it is even possible for a staff to read that many pages in 3 days and inform the congressman or woman voting on it.

I find your comments in this regards incredibly naive and lacking in any practical experience with this subject.

I find your narcissism and ignorance of the subject at hand incredibly sad. You refuse to even acknolwedge that the majority of people were against this or acknolwedge the sheer size and scope of what was being done, how many pages it contained and how little time there was to evaluate it.

But by all means, go ahead throwing **** and hoping some of it will stick. That's working out well for you so far.

Exposing your hypocrisy and ignorance of the facts doesn't take that much time. You make it easy.
 
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And the health care is dead, and the polls for the Michigan governors race is somehow relevant. Your credibility is not there...

you don't think MICHIGAN is RELEVANT?

LOLOL!
 
Bribery isn't legal,

You can of course show solid evidence of illegal bribery. Remember, dealing is not bribery.

coercion isn't legal,

Again, evdidence that the law was broken in relation to coercion.

unequal application(Unions, Nebraska, Louisiana) are not legal under the constitution,

And you can of course show that there is any chance of a successful challenge based on these.


reconcilliation was less than ethcial in a non budget bill,

Judgment call at best. If it is not allowed under the rules, you can of course prove it. If it is, you are just whining.


there were threats issued and other tactics, strongarming, etc.

Threats are not legal, so I am sure you can point to where law enforcement is investigating these allegations.

Let's not pretend this was all done correctly.
And that's not even to factor in the ninth and tenth amendments were disregarded.

The courts will determine whether this was constitutional. For the rest, you are making alot of unsupported allegations of illegal acts, none of which you are backing up. What it really looks like is some one who cannot accept that you did not get your way politically. I am sorry, Bush and the republican congress is gone, you had your chance. Now it's our turn. The people legally elected who they wanted to represent them in congress, and those people did what they said they would do. Don't like it, well boo hoo. Your crying is getting uninteresting.
 
you don't think MICHIGAN is RELEVANT?

LOLOL!

You don't think TAKING words out OF context is DISHONEST?

The governors race in Michigan has exactly nothing to do with the health care bill in the US congress.
 
Where is the apologism for violence? And am I to understand bricks flying through windows can't kill people?

Every word in my post was a direct copy paste from on of Chappy's posts, adjusted for partisan leaning.

Indeed, my belief about this incident is that someone opposed to health care reform demonstrated his opinion by firing a shot at Congress. The perpetrator didn't discriminate between Democrats and Republicans.

Why do I not figure a supporter of health care reform would fire a shot at Congress? Because, all the supporters I know are pretty happy with Congress these days.

Ah, so your theory is that a Republican sought out the office of another Republican which was not in DC and shot at it to express his displeasure with Congress? Why are you defending terrorism? Do you hate America?
 
Do you two honestly think the rest of the world would just watch us kill each other? The answer is no.

What are you talking about? I never said there was going to be another civil war. :roll:
 
Such as...?


Sarah Palin's Facebook page, which uses cross hairs to denote districts where vulnerable Democrats voted for health care reform. 'Don't retreat, instead, reload,' Palin told fellow conservatives on Twitter." In addition, a picture of the Republican National Committee website appeared on screen, which featured an image of Nancy Pelosi surrounded by flames and the words 'Fire Pelosi'.

source

Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), who has a weakness for violent rhetoric, suggested on Monday that Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) would bludgeon some lawmakers to death.

Asked on Fox News Radio how Pelosi would get conservative Blue Dog Democrats to vote for health care reform, Bachmann responded: "She'll either beat them to death, bludgeon them do death ... or she'll try to buy them off."

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Responding to questions over whether Pelosi could call a special session – which Democrats insist won’t happen – and vote on other issues that Republicans may not want to face, such as an expansion of childrens’ health insurance programs, which President Bush and GOP congressional leaders have opposed.

“She’s gonna bring us back and not deal with it? The American people are gonna hang her,” Boehner said. When pressed further, Boehner said it would “be fine, as long as we get a vote on our bill.”

source

It's been going on for years now. You haven't heard them say these things?
 
Well in all fairness Bachmann is an idiot, so you can't really listen to her.
 
Sarah Palin's Facebook page, which uses cross hairs to denote districts where vulnerable Democrats voted for health care reform. 'Don't retreat, instead, reload,' Palin told fellow conservatives on Twitter." In addition, a picture of the Republican National Committee website appeared on screen, which featured an image of Nancy Pelosi surrounded by flames and the words 'Fire Pelosi'.

source

Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), who has a weakness for violent rhetoric, suggested on Monday that Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) would bludgeon some lawmakers to death.

Asked on Fox News Radio how Pelosi would get conservative Blue Dog Democrats to vote for health care reform, Bachmann responded: "She'll either beat them to death, bludgeon them do death ... or she'll try to buy them off."

source

Responding to questions over whether Pelosi could call a special session – which Democrats insist won’t happen – and vote on other issues that Republicans may not want to face, such as an expansion of childrens’ health insurance programs, which President Bush and GOP congressional leaders have opposed.

“She’s gonna bring us back and not deal with it? The American people are gonna hang her,” Boehner said. When pressed further, Boehner said it would “be fine, as long as we get a vote on our bill.”

source

It's been going on for years now. You haven't heard them say these things?

So we shouldn't use metaphors that involve violence in any way now?

Hey, the Democrats are going to get killed in November. Wait, crap. I just inspired a terrorist or something.
 
The governors race in Michigan has exactly nothing to do with the health care bill in the US congress.

LOL!

that's preposterous

EVERYTHING in united states politics has exactly something to do with the health care bill in the us congress

you don't think people in michigan watch tv?

LOLOL!
 
on another front, have you seen what we've learned about the housing market in the last few days

all 3 market indicators---home SALES, home VALUES and home FORECLOSURES are at all time bads

"home sales are sliding, prices are stalling and foreclosures are rising," according to AP

worse, the fed next week is gonna end its efforts to hold down mortgage rates, and at the end of the month the tax break for first time buyers expires

we learned yesterday that new home sales for february fell for the fourth straight month and hit an all time low

the day before commerce reported that the sales of existing homes also declined, a third straight month, reaching a nadir not seen since july

foreclosures have topped 300,000 for eleven straight months, with no cellar in sight

"that's because hundreds of thousands of foreclosed homes have yet to hit the market at deeply discounted prices," reports AP

according to AP, "THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION'S PROGRAM TO PREVENT FORECLOSURES HAS SO FAR BEEN A DUD"

"only 170,000 homeowners had completed the loan modification process as of last month, out of 1.1 million who started it over the past year"

according to tarp inspector general neil barofsky, the man who ratted out tax cheat geithner for ordering aig to keep secrets from the sec, "the program risks helping few... merely spreading out the foreclosure crisis over the course of several years"

and, according to bloomberg, "MORE THAN HALF OF US BORROWERS WHO RECEIVED LOAN MODIFICATIONS ON DELINQUENT MORTGAGES DEFAULTED AGAIN AFTER NINE MONTHS"

"the re-default rate of loans modified in the first quarter of 2009 was 51.5 percent by the end of the year, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency and the Office of Thrift Supervision said in a joint report today"

the figure climbed to 57.9 when reckoned over the span of the previous 12 months, bloomberg continues

"the number of homes with mortgage payments at least 60 days late climbed 2.39 million in the fourth quarter, up 13.1 percent from the prior three months and 49.6 percent from the year earlier period, the quarterly Mortgage Metrics report said"

after all the crap we've been thru to get down here as low as we are, FORECLOSURE RATES ARE STILL RISING

and at a catastrophic climb

"about 4.5 million foreclosures filings are expected in 2010, according to RealtyTrac Inc., an Irvine, California-based seller of default data"

"a government watchdog report [that'd be barofsky] released today criticized the government’s main foreclosure prevention effort, the Home Affordable Modification Program, or HAMP, for 'spreading out the foreclosure crisis' over several years by failing to help enough troubled borrowers"

see? i told you

he's concerned that "large amounts of borrowers [will] simply re-default and end up facing foreclosure anyway"

in other words, too many folks, if you continue to bail them out, will just walk away, take the money and just walk away

ya think?

how many of us warned that if you just go and bail out all these folks, so many of em our friends and family members, within 6 months they'll be right back where they were, on the phone and begging for more help

so, what's obama's solution, this time?

well, first he has to go off to iowa to SELL health care

LOL!

and then, what next?

why, just more of the same, natch

he's going to "require lenders to temporarily slash or eliminate mortgage payments for many borrowers who are unemployed," reports wapo

unbelievable

washingtonpost.com

Sales of New U.S. Homes Dropped in February to Lowest on Record - Bloomberg.com

Housing market's recovery appears at risk - Boston.com

Half of U.S. Home Loan Modifications Default Again (Update1) - Bloomberg.com
 
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“I shot an arrow into the air, It fell to earth, I knew not where.” — Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, “The Arrow and the Song”​

While I am doubtful that this is a case of political violence, I will repeat my opinion that political violence whether conservative or liberal or otherwise … redounds to the great discredit of the perpetrator's purpose.

… Do you hate America?

You're out of date, after reading the Richmond Police Department statement, my understanding of events has evolved, please take the time to read the thread before you post!

But, of course, to answer your question, I love America, and, lately I've been feeling better about it's prospects, more and more despite all the conservative histrionics lately.
 
You're out of date, after reading the Richmond Police Department statement, my understanding of events has evolved, please take the time to read the thread before you post!

But, of course, to answer your question, I love America, and, lately I've been feeling better about it's prospects, more and more despite all the conservative histrionics lately.
You mean you love the high unemployment, the government takeovers, the socialism being forced on us??
 
LOL!

that's preposterous

EVERYTHING in united states politics has exactly something to do with the health care bill in the us congress

you don't think people in michigan watch tv?

LOLOL!

Apparently you don't pay attention to politics in Michigan.
 
You're out of date, after reading the Richmond Police Department statement, my understanding of events has evolved, please take the time to read the thread before you post!

But, of course, to answer your question, I love America, and, lately I've been feeling better about it's prospects, more and more despite all the conservative histrionics lately.

Do you know what preliminary means Chappy?
 
this, from the guy who the only LINK he ever posted was about ME!

LOLOLOL!

Do I really have to dig up the hundreds to thousands of posts I have made with links to sources I have used? Do you really think making **** up is going to make your point at all?
 
republicans leading IN MICHIGAN by between 15 and 22 points has nothing to do with health care...

LOL!

you got a LINK for THAT?

LOLOL!
 
republicans leading IN MICHIGAN by between 15 and 22 points has nothing to do with health care...

LOL!

you got a LINK for THAT?

LOLOL!

Its really unfair for you to use facts in your arguments. You should be using your feelings :2wave:
 
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